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    fast question

    what's up with the ud3r failing or shutting down al of a sudden as it's loading Vista????? and the sequence in which you have to hit the start button?????

    do any of you guys get this, or did i just get a bum board here????

    ps: i'm certain it didn't degrade cause it's been doing this since the first night i brought it home...

    the Asrock p4i65gv did this

    edit: i think if ofund the answer - it appears the memory is being set to too low a voltage everytime i reboot - didn't notice that - - oops
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    nothing i could do could get my faulty team xtreem 1300 stick to not bluescreen at 480mhz, and 1 good stick is only good at seeing how far it will clock for the sake of it, and my crucial fatties wont boot at its rated speed of 400mhz either, guess my board really doesnt like them.so i got some ram thats good for gaming and somewhat good for benching too, ocz flex ex 2x2gb 1200. i heard it uses an unknown type of hynix ic,s, unlike the flex 1150,s which use psc. anyone know what are the best subtimings for high clocks on this ram? if you ignore trfc it actually defaults to pretty tight timings for a 4gb kit particularly trrd of 3. timings in memset are as follows:

    5-5-5-5-18-6-54-8-14-11-3-8-5-6-3120t-2t (pl8 is manually set in bios.)

    so far i have tried 500mhz 5-5-5-18 2.2v its orthos stable, will try higher tomorrow.

    edit: thats odd, if i set 400 fsb 4:5 divider 266 strap = no boot, 3:4 divider 400 strap = no boot regardless of fsb, yet 375 fsb 4:5 divider 266 strap boots then upping fsb to 400 with setfsb = 10 minutes orthos stable what gives? it was still error free after 10 minutes but i stopped it at that point. also every time i get back into bios after a failed reboot it comes up with the red failed overclock message, all settings i most recently put in dont change except cpu multi goes to 9. is 3:4 divider bugged?
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    I've read about a few disappointed people with those xtreem sticks, they're good while they last, but unless you give them some hardcore cooling they can fail quite easily, particularly with the kind of volts they're rated for. Those flex ex seem tgo do quite nicely, did you just buy those? New? Where from? Are they not rated at 6-6-6-18 like here?

    I'm going to go on my 3rd hunt for 8gb of DDR1200 at the end of this month, and I'm eyeing up the tridents which are pricey but I know they perform well. There's also a couple of revisions of the G.Skill PI's (i.e. silver and newer blue versions) which cost even more, but I expect they'll perform better.
    If they all fall outside my price range, then I may consider going for some flex ex instead, particularly if the price is good. My chaintech sticks will happily chug along at ~1160 (only 10MHz over stock), but no further whatsoever and I don't like being stuck on the 1:1 ratio.

    In the meantime, I've been seeing what the board can do with stock volts (except vcore & vdimm), and it passed a loop of p95 blend at 480x9 last night (this is with just 1.2vtt, 1.2vmch, and 1.5pll, and a trd of 11 for now). This board still slams my MIIF in terms of voltages needed, I previously had to go for something like 1.36mch and the 1.36vtt at those kind of speeds, and I would struggle to get it stable.
    I'm now testing at 489x9 to see what it takes to get 4.4GHz stable, which I think is finally on the verge with these measily volts, but it's a good point to learn what adjustments make the crucial differences when increasing fsb (rather than my previous 'stab in the dark' attempts). I just keep getting more & more impressed with this board as time goes on, all I want are some mosfet blocks, DDR1200 memory and i might be happy .

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    How many of you have removed the blue "GIGABYTE" and "Ultra Durable" plates from on top the Silent-Pipe heatsinks? How hard to remove and what did you use? It looks like these would hold in heat and are only cosmetic. Taking them off would allow more air to hit the actual heatsinks correct?
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    Bluestang, some questions for you or anyone else that wants to chime in! I see you are running your work rig at PL8. Did you try going for 7? not stable? I have my ram stable at 1600 now and priming with trfc 60. next step will be lowering trd so any hints? did you have to up vMch to get lower trd?
    Thanks again for info on straps. 3.2B seems alot more ram friendly than 2.66D was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songok View Post
    Bluestang, some questions for you or anyone else that wants to chime in! I see you are running your work rig at PL8. Did you try going for 7? not stable? I have my ram stable at 1600 now and priming with trfc 60. next step will be lowering trd so any hints? did you have to up vMch to get lower trd?
    Thanks again for info on straps. 3.2B seems alot more ram friendly than 2.66D was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestang View Post
    How many of you have removed the blue "GIGABYTE" and "Ultra Durable" plates from on top the Silent-Pipe heatsinks? How hard to remove and what did you use? It looks like these would hold in heat and are only cosmetic. Taking them off would allow more air to hit the actual heatsinks correct?
    i took them off all my boards.after you have the heatsink assembly off,just use a blow dryer to heat up the blue covers and gently pull them off.if you get them hot enough the glue will stick to the blue part and you will have an easier time cleaning the glue. i only took off the NB one on my last two boards.
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    Question

    any opinions on these while they're in stock, i figured it was time to go for some decent ram instead of the pidley 1066 i've been surviving on and wanted to do 1200..

    i'm sort of limited here, so these are all i can afford now that i got the board stable...but Gigabyte seems to claim you can use up to 1300 and above for a "performance boost" and 4 gb is right about in my price range...

    I know some of yous recomend the Trident and obviously the teem extreem stuff, and flex also, but would you recommend the Ripjaws or can it not even hold it's water at 1200 (stock)...

    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820231283

    thank you for your time, i appreciate the input
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    if you can afford it,these are the best.and will do ddr2-1300+
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    ok, thank you for that quick response.... i'l see if i can scrape up another 40.00

    cause i definitely need 4 gb this time....

    i got screwed with Dominator, they sold me a dead stick and i'm stuck with 2 which could go any day now...

    EDIT: ironically, that's less than i paid for the dominator
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameman View Post

    i got screwed with Dominator, they sold me a dead stick and i'm stuck with 2 which could go any day now...

    EDIT: ironically, that's less than i paid for the dominator
    thats just karma
    you got what you deserved
    too bad you cant but any of mine but anyone else can

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    how come you're in this thread??? .........

    EDIT: forgive me, i don't wanna get back into this...

    all i was looking for is advice on memory....i figure it's time to move on....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameman View Post
    how come you're in this thread??? .........

    EDIT: forgive me, i don't wanna get back into this...

    all i was looking for is advice on memory....i figure it's time to move on....
    duh i had the board
    no you wont be forgiven thats karma for ya

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    nice mobo, pity is not for the beginner overclockers. Today I tried the 4200 1.264v "solid" the system starts even at 450x9.5 but beyond 443x9.5 not stable. Some ideas with the skew?
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    Quote Originally Posted by In-Fluence View Post
    I've read about a few disappointed people with those xtreem sticks, they're good while they last, but unless you give them some hardcore cooling they can fail quite easily, particularly with the kind of volts they're rated for. Those flex ex seem tgo do quite nicely, did you just buy those? New? Where from? Are they not rated at 6-6-6-18 like here?
    yes, they are rated for 1200 6-6-6-18 2.2v. they were instock at a local computer store so i snapped them up. not cheap mind you. hopefully i dont regret getting these instead of being patient and getting g.skill trident 1200 5-5-5-15 1.8v. im hoping for 1100 5-5-5-18 2.2v but i have read 1200 definitaly requires 6-6-6-18 and very little is known about subtimings and how it behaves with this board unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAMMAN View Post
    yes, they are rated for 1200 6-6-6-18 2.2v. they were instock at a local computer store so i snapped them up. not cheap mind you. hopefully i dont regret getting these instead of being patient and getting g.skill trident 1200 5-5-5-15 1.8v. im hoping for 1100 5-5-5-18 2.2v but i have read 1200 definitaly requires 6-6-6-18 and very little is known about subtimings and how it behaves with this board unfortunately.
    they should do 5-6-5-15 1200mhz

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    i have hear they can do 1000 cas 4 so thats a possibility, im not holding my breath though. no way my board is going to do 480fsb 4:5 anytime soon and 3:4 divider 400 strap wont boot regardless of fsb so any suggestions what divider will get me there? perhaps 2:3 for 24/7 and 4:5 for benching? both on 266 strap btw. havent even tried the 2:3 divider or anything higher on this board yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsamz_ View Post
    duh i had the board
    no you wont be forgiven thats karma for ya
    am i supposed to be somehow affected by this?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameman View Post
    am i supposed to be somehow affected by this?????
    people like you wont be affected
    you can always crawl back under your rock

    like i said its all karma you get what you deserve
    i'm just glad i didnt sell you nothin and i never will
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAMMAN View Post
    i have hear they can do 1000 cas 4 so thats a possibility, im not holding my breath though. no way my board is going to do 480fsb 4:5 anytime soon and 3:4 divider 400 strap wont boot regardless of fsb so any suggestions what divider will get me there? perhaps 2:3 for 24/7 and 4:5 for benching? both on 266 strap btw. havent even tried the 2:3 divider or anything higher on this board yet.
    they should do 1020 1040 cas4

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    memory dividers higher than 4:5 266 strap wont boot even at 333fsb and 400fsb 4:5 266 wont boot either, 375fsb 4:5 266 is fine though. i have tried 3:4 400 and 2:3 266, no luck. so im limited to pushing the fsb in windows on 4:5 266 strap using setfsb and testing stability with orthos. i got to 415fsb ddr2-1040 5-5-5-15 before i got an error 6 minutes into orthos. i changed timings to 5-6-5-15 and upped mch volts from 1.1 to 1.2. so either the ram or the board is limiting me, most likely the board imo. it was 10 minutes orthos stable again at 8x425 1066 5-6-5-15 so i upped my card to its highest bench stable clock, 701/1511/1147 and got my best 3dmark06 score.

    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=12899265

    more to do with my cpu at 3.4, instead of 3.3 like my last run. changing to a coolermaster cosmos s has dropped cpu temps by a good 10c.

    after the run i shut my rig off to feel nb temp. it was hot, not blistering but definitaly hot at just 1.2v. ram on the other hand was actually cool at 2.2v. i know the ud3l series boards have an inferior nb hs but this is ridiculous imo. its funny this board is actually rated for 1366+ memory, i somehow doubt anyone has actually reached that on any ud3l series board.
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    +1 for the G.Skill 9600PI's, best ddr2 kit I ever had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Nub View Post
    +1 for the G.Skill 9600PI's, best ddr2 kit I ever had.
    mine were doin 1260mhz withought breakin a sweat

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestang View Post
    So what's the feeling on these Drive and Skew Settings? What's ideal for the Core2Duos at high (500+) FSB?
    I didn't really test for stability as I was messing with my GPU, but 800/800/150/150 made 510x9 PL8 piece of cake.

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    Hi all, just get one EP45-UD3P and is having problem in getting my Q9650 stable @ 495 FSB (prime freezes after 1.5 hours).... settings as below, what's wrong? The ram is Gskill PC8500 PK 2GB X 2
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)

    Robust Graphics Booster ..................: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio......................: +0.5
    CPU Frequency ............................: 4.20Ghz (495x8.5)

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control....................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) .................: 495
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 100
    C.I.A. 2..................................: [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 1000mV
    PCI Express Clock Drive...................: 1000mV
    CPU Clock Skew (ps).......................: 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps).......................: 50ps

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance......................: Standard
    MCH Frequency Latch......................: 400
    System Memory Multiplier ................: 2.00D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..................: 990
    DRAM Timing Selectable ..................: Manual

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time.........................: 5
    tRCD ....................................: 5
    tRP......................................: 5
    tRAS.....................................: 15
    Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
    tRRD.....................................: Auto
    tWTR.....................................: Auto
    tWR......................................: Auto
    tRFC.....................................: Auto
    tRTP.....................................: Auto
    Command Rate (CMD) ......................: 2T
    Channel A
    Channel A Timings Settings
    Static tRead Value......................: 10

    Channel B
    Channel B Timings Settings
    Static tRead Value......................: 10

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    Load-Line Calibration.....................: Enabled
    CPU Vcore...............1.22500V..........: 1.38125V
    CPU Termination.........1.200V............: 1.36V
    CPU PLL.................1.500V............: 1.570v
    CPU Reference...........0.760V............: 0.886
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core................1.100V............: 1.44v
    MCH Reference...........0.760V............: 0.901v
    MCH/DRAM Reference......0.900V............: auto
    ICH I/O.................1.500V............: 1.500v
    ICH Core................1.100V............: 1.100v
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage............1.800V............: 2.04v
    DRAM Termination........0.900V............: auto
    Channel A Address Vref..0.900V............: auto
    Channel B Address Vref..0.900V............: auto

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: Disabled
    No-Execute Memory Protect.................: Enabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...................: Disabled
    C2/C2E State Support......................: Disabled
    x C4/C4E State Support....................: Disabled
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...............: Disabled
    CPU EIST Function.........................: Disabled
    Virtualization Technology.................: Enabled
    Last edited by waiho2k1; 01-08-2010 at 09:21 AM.
    Intel C2Q Q9650
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P Rev 1.1 (Bios F10j)
    Gskill PC8500 PK 2GB X 2
    XFX 9800GX2
    Corsair HX1000 PSU

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