msi 790 fx-gd70 thread

[almighty15]

well im trying for 4.0 ghz a tad harder to accomplish, but thats a good overclock you have, what bios ? I can get 1685 mgz cas 6 stable, but cant get 1700, besides upping the dram v, what else would help ? nb v ?

I've not tried for 4Ghz, I worked my way up from 3Ghz until the temps on the stock cooler reached the 55c mark during Linx.

I'm currently waiting to get my water cooling loop back up and running, She did 4.4Ghz with her previous owner on water

I'm using BIOS version 1.4

[FireDragon]

Just because it did 4.4 for them on water dosnt mean that it will do 4.4 with the setup that u have, but it is a good reference, NB clocks and your mem will play a LARGE role in how far u can go (at least from my understanding)

Dragon

[crazydiamond]

Im trying to get 3.9 stable 2750 nb, 1633 cas 6, but cant get it. I can get pretty decent clocks, for benching, but cant get what i want 24/7 stable, im coming from a gigabyte board, alot more settings in this bios. Trying to get a feel for this board. Some reason cpuz wont read my cpu correctly, it reads the memory, but not cpu.

if your on c3 i wouldnt be suprised if your nb was keeping you unstable. have you tried getting stable with lower nb? my c3 runs 2.6ghz with 1.25 cpu-nb volts but will not get stable with 2.8ghz nb even with 1.35+ cpu-nb volts.

maybe take a step back and put everything to stock, lower ram, and then just clock cpu alone and see how far it goes. then go for cpu & nb clock together and see how far you can go... etc.

did u set the ram up and u cant use the native 1600mhz divider for the ram

i use the 1600mhz divider (1:4), however just with 8.8.8 timings

Is it just me or does this board have no vdrop ot Vdroop at all?

I have the same Vcore in windows as I set in BIOS and according to CPUZ and HWMonitor it doesn't drop under load either.

for 4.0ghz i have my vcore set to 1.48 in bios, shows up as 1.464 in cpuz on idle, drops to 1.448 during prime

[almighty15]

Just because it did 4.4 for them on water dosnt mean that it will do 4.4 with the setup that u have, but it is a good reference, NB clocks and your mem will play a LARGE role in how far u can go (at least from my understanding)

Dragon

So it's the same motherboard, same CPU and same RAM and yet it doesn't meen it'll do it for?...Awesome logic there

[FireDragon]

So it's the same motherboard, same CPU and same RAM and yet it doesn't meen it'll do it for?...Awesome logic there

LOL, u never said that he shipped u his mobo, ram and cpu, as even if u bought the same ram and mobo he had....that dosnt cut it imo, your ram could b weak or something on the mobo might not clock as well (even if everything is the same ordered from the same place, u will get completely different overclocks when u put them together even with the same parts), so ur saying u bought the CPU, the Ram and the Mobo from him? if that is the case then u should b able to reach that 4.4 that he had, assuming your watercooling is as good, BUT my logic is perfectly in place, everyone knows that 2 ppl (or even the same person) using 2 identical setups wont reach the same clocks everything has differences no matter how small that effect the overclock

Dragon

[SLIZZER]

should i buy this over the gigabyte 790fxta ud5?

[FireDragon]

the UD5 is a brand new board so we cant answer that one yet, as atm there are not even any reviews of it out, but i do know of at least one person that went from a UD5P to this MSI board and he like it better

Dragon

[almighty15]

LOL, u never said that he shipped u his mobo, ram and cpu, as even if u bought the same ram and mobo he had....that dosnt cut it imo, your ram could b weak or something on the mobo might not clock as well (even if everything is the same ordered from the same place, u will get completely different overclocks when u put them together even with the same parts), so ur saying u bought the CPU, the Ram and the Mobo from him? if that is the case then u should b able to reach that 4.4 that he had, assuming your watercooling is as good, BUT my logic is perfectly in place, everyone knows that 2 ppl (or even the same person) using 2 identical setups wont reach the same clocks everything has differences no matter how small that effect the overclock

Dragon

[torquejunky]

So would you guys recommend this board to an OC newb?
Gathering parts for a gaming build and right now this one is at the top of my list....

[beta]

if u are not afraid of having some extra settings in the bios, then why not

[almighty15]

I'm on BIOS version 1.4

I've not had any problems with it but is it worth upgrading? Are the newer BIOS's more stable and give better overclock results?

[neo mike]

There is no one good bios, there are so many bios for this board it aint funny, you have to try different ones and find one you like. Im using 1.82b seems ok, go to www.oczforums.com and there is a load of bios there for this board.

[FireDragon]

wtf is that supposed to mean? that i am right lol?

Dragon

[almighty15]

wtf is that supposed to mean? that i am right lol?

Dragon

I'm not saying what it meens as I'll get into trouble with the mods...

[neo mike]

Does anybody with this board have there ram clocked over 1700 mgz ? and if you do what bios you on, i have tried 5 different bios, and cannot get my ram to run over 1700mgz, and yes its capable of doing it easy. I see in first page that msi max had 1872 , how did he do that i have no idea, i have raised the nb v cpu nb v, dram v what else can you do ?

[NickF]

The IMC in Phenom II's was never designed to do more than DDR3 1333, so you're hitting a wall on the IMC, not of your board. If someone got it higher than you, it's probably because their IMC is stronger, or at least more stable than yours.

[neo mike]

I have a 965 C3 is very capable of 1700 plus is not my chip, its the bios , there are loads of guys hitting 1800 and over on same chip, trust me its the bios., have to find right bios, if there is one, there are so many beta bios for this board, have to try them all.

[FireDragon]

I'm not saying what it meens as I'll get into trouble with the mods...

Well then in that case u can PM it to me as i am interested in what your gonna say

Dragon

[neo mike]

You could be right it could be my chip i can hit 1690, but 1 mgz over and it dont matter how much voltage i add it wont go, but i see so many people doing 1800, i know its not easy to do 1800, but im not sure what it is, going to try another board and that will tell the story. I did raise my cas to 7 and 8 just to try and see if 6 was a no go, but it didnt matter.

[almighty15]

Got mine now to 1600Mhz now, timings are crap though at 9-9-9-24


Not tried to lower then yet though

[beta]

Just did a quick test to check what my setup can handle, I can hit 1752 cl7 or 1760 cl8, but cl6 is too tight for my sticks, they crap out at ~1530

[neo mike]

Well im having better luck now, i knew my chip was not holding me back, i switched the ram in the slots closest to the cpu and bingo. Im seeing now how far they will go stable. 1733 now cas 6 is not bad, but they should do 1800 cas 6 for benching but not stable, we will see.

Update, i cant get 1700 cas 6 to pass memtest, have tried for hours, keep getting errors.

[Yancey]

Mike I have ran this mobo since it came out and I have 4 of them and I love them but the guy is right about the set-up, You can build 2 rigs side by side with the same parts and they both will not run the same lol lol I have tried it... But my friend Tony from OCZ has got the set-up down!! I will tell you that it will run fasterat 1333mhz with tight timing then 1800 with loose timing. The mobo max out about 1800mhz. The CPU don't play nice with high voltage memory and also needs some CPU-NB voltage and speed. I found the (sweet spot) at 2800mhz CPU-NB@1.300v and the HT link at 2600mhz@1.250v NB-CORE 1.25v CPU 955 @3.8ghz 1.3625v and the 965C3 @ 4.0ghz at 1.41v. I run this set-up 24/7 and runs nice and cool 32c idle and 43c max load..

[neo mike]

Mike I have ran this mobo since it came out and I have 4 of them and I love them but the guy is right about the set-up, You can build 2 rigs side by side with the same parts and they both will not run the same lol lol I have tried it... But my friend Tony from OCZ has got the set-up down!! I will tell you that it will run fasterat 1333mhz with tight timing then 1800 with loose timing. The mobo max out about 1800mhz. The CPU don't play nice with high voltage memory and also needs some CPU-NB voltage and speed. I found the (sweet spot) at 2800mhz CPU-NB@1.300v and the HT link at 2600mhz@1.250v NB-CORE 1.25v CPU 955 @3.8ghz 1.3625v and the 965C3 @ 4.0ghz at 1.41v. I run this set-up 24/7 and runs nice and cool 32c idle and 43c max load..

Ok i will try those setting, and im aware of Tony, he is knows his stuff. I was trying for 1720 cas 6 but i get errors in memtest and cant make them go away , but i will try your settings, thanks for your reply. What bios you running ? what is your cpu vdd voltage ? and your cpu-nb vdd ?.

[FireDragon]

nice voltage on the CPU there for 4.0 (well damn close lol)

Dragon