i would imagine it's the same as the stock top, you can, but it's not recommend to do that.Originally Posted by Ketzer7
i would imagine it's the same as the stock top, you can, but it's not recommend to do that.
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True.
You have to stick also with the pump manufacturers instructions.
Last edited by Eddy_EK; 11-27-2009 at 09:18 PM. Reason: typo
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Really? I checked both Laing's and Swiftech's sites and didn't see anything about recommending against the output facing down.
However, I did see the stock EK top's diagram in the installation manual showing it wasn't OK to have the input facing down which is obvious, but again nothing about the output facing down as long as the input remained in one of the correct orientations.
On the dual top, even with the output facing down, the input is still facing straight ahead level, and that's what I was asking about, the output, not the input just to clarify. Based on that can you confirm it's still not recommended to orient the pumps this way? Thanks!
Hi!
I'd say the D5 top manuals were written on base of DDC as they are not recommended to mount it upside down.
Therefore I suggest you stick with pump manufacturers manuals.
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the output facing down is OK, just not the input, it would have to suck the water up and pumps arent good at that. besides that the impeller will be pulled down by gravity, increasing wear on the parts.
exactly, the output can face down, just not input for the reason above.
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Are you sure about this? The way I see it, the pump does not have to suck because the water loop exists and the pump is usually at the bottom of the loop. Is there a chance that the electromagnetic field of the pump stator keeps the impeller always in the same position axially?
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the water sucking part is mainly of importance when bleeding. after thats done and the res is properly sealed, the pump will just push into itself, but the main part is that while the magnetic field will keep the impeller up, it wont do so sufficiently i guess... all i know is that there are very specific mentions of not to mount your pump like that. there may be some other reason but i think these are the most likely ones. or maybe extra resistance burning it out or something but thats all i can think of.
Hi!
I would like to avoid opening new thread for something which might prove as silly question
Since this is about dual tops, it is somewhat similar.
In the near future I am planning to add second loop for GPU since I'd like to keep CPU loop dedicated. In the process, I am certainly going to need larger res
since I have the smallest one form EK which has capacity od 150ml for that. I saw this 5.25" dual bay reservoir from XSPC, this is the product - link.
Now, I'm wondering are these bay reservoirs better or worse compared to standalone reservoirs, and is this a good idea since pump is not going to be the lowest component in the loop?
Until I add second loop, only one chamber will be used, so, is it going to affect loop's performance compared to this setup with standalone reservoir? And how much liquid this
reservoir takes since XSPC does not mention this number?
A res alone will not effect performance. Having the pump at the bottom of the res is more for ease of bleeding. It will just take a bit longer to bleed.Hi!
I would like to avoid opening new thread for something which might prove as silly question
Since this is about dual tops, it is somewhat similar.
In the near future I am planning to add second loop for GPU since I'd like to keep CPU loop dedicated. In the process, I am certainly going to need larger res
since I have the smallest one form EK which has capacity od 150ml for that. I saw this 5.25" dual bay reservoir from XSPC, this is the product - link.
Now, I'm wondering are these bay reservoirs better or worse compared to standalone reservoirs, and is this a good idea since pump is not going to be the lowest component in the loop?
Until I add second loop, only one chamber will be used, so, is it going to affect loop's performance compared to this setup with standalone reservoir? And how much liquid this
reservoir takes since XSPC does not mention this number?
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Eddy, any photo for that ek res on this top?
i would like take one this top.
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Do you think it's possible to post the internals of the new Double DDC top Eddy? Would be great to see the flow layout.
It is very much the same as with Dual D5 top.
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Are you going to have a dual loop D5 top coming out soon Eddy? That third render looks pretty cool.
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Eddy, your picture of the DDC dual top V2 doesn't show an input port on the same side as the output. Will there be one on the same side as the output or will the only input be from the top of the block where the res is shown in your picture? Thx!
No, sorry, no place there to make an inlet. Also it would be too restrictive.
You can use reservoir or 90° fitting.
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i def want the third render..
Yeah, the third one is great.
Those screw holes on the side are intended for 5.25", right?
In what a timespan can this be expected? Hate to break loops uniformity since all are EK components
Yes it will be for 5,25" bay like normal dual d5 top.Yeah, the third one is great.
Those screw holes on the side are intended for 5.25", right?
In what a timespan can this be expected? Hate to break loops uniformity since all are EK components
Available in max 2 weeks.
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Ok cool, thanks for the info
How soon are these planned for, same two weeks as the other D5 top?
Thats pure sex, Ed.
any chance the chamfer on the sides could be made to match that of the DDC in size?
No, sorry, because of the bay mount holes position.Thats pure sex, Ed.
any chance the chamfer on the sides could be made to match that of the DDC in size?
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Any reviews on this yet?? Skinnee??
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Will there be a dual loop DDC version as well Eddy?
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