First IOXTREME Review

[Computurd]

I love your point by point refutations..perhaps i should do that as well to make my posts look as long and important as yours!!

Running games/apps is the only way to really measure performance. You can run from it all you like, but I have a feeling you are already aware of how slow your PC is in comparison to others.

simply not true. i wait for nothing, i was past that point with a rocket raid 3520 and eight vertex

Yes, AS SSD doesn't work well with cache. Do not tell me about iometer. I have started getting people to use it about a year ago, back when hdtach was king. Then ATTO came around and I was still trying (failing) to get people to use iometer due to people like Tony (ignorant at that time) saying ATTO is a great measure simply because it showed overrated results and was quick and simple. Only very recently did people accept it. So please don't tell me about it.

your agreeing with me. wow that is nice.

basic math fail... 35000 iops @ 4kb = 140,000 kb/s.

touche`

Yes it means 64 queue depth. It does the same speed at 32 (in fact I dont think Intel SSD support/do anything past 32). Are you saying your iometer run showing 35k iops was with less queue? Your CM run is 100% cache. Take your own advice and use iomete

used for comparison only, as it was what i could find with a quick search. also believe me, only things i really trust is everest and i/o meter. agreeing with me..in a way...again

Not joking at all. Your L4D will take 9++ seconds to load and you will see. It doesn't have to be l4d. You must game a lot if you have tri sli, so you have to have a lot of games.

i do have lots of games, however i have never had to wait for anything long enough to say...GEE this is taking so long i should time it. i dont wait. i can guarantee that it wont take that long. feel free to send me a copy of the game.

ou haven't posted anything but useless 8k runs that involve 20% writes. And in those useless 8k runs you get smoked by mere 2x x25-Es. Your access time is 0.23ms (looked at some of your benchmarks from before), which gets beat by 2x by almost any ssd. Your 4kb random iops is equal to a single x25-m (ioxtreme is a few times more than this). Max throughput is irrelevant.

max throughput is relevant entirely. as you agree with the anandtech post, then you see that in a gaming mode it is 60 percent sequential...how in the hell does that not matter? it is the vast majority of the reads. 8k was only as frame of reference, working from the benchmarks provided to me by the review. how can i compare my settings to theirs if they dont have it listed??? when i show you better access times, you dont acknowledge them.

You haven't beat anything. And turning off services and such doesn't change iops by more than 1%.

i beg to differ.

Perhaps at an irrelevant IOPS setting at an irrelevant queue.

again anything that i post that is good is irrelevant. it does not support your statement. so therefore it means nothing, you are like the gestapo LOL.
you refuse to acknowledge anything that even remotely differs with your pinhole view of computing.
it was so irrelevant that stevero, who you have said that you trust implicitly, posted them. do you need to revise your stance on his benchmarks??????

I have posted this EXACT ARTICLE BEFORE IN THIS VERY THREAD. Read post #32. I do NOT think 4kb is the only measure; it is one of the relevant ones. Try to read before posting.

i thought after reading your other statements throughout the whole entirety of this thread that maybe you should read it again. you don't get it. you keep repeating the same mantra. 4k 4k 4k 4k 4k 4k 4k

Funny. The 8k you keep running isn't even a part of the trace. And you are certainly not running queue of 8 with 1 worker like the article suggests. Try that out and see what happens. And that 8 is average. Meaning, it ranges with use from 1 to whatever the max is. Your 4kb bandwidth @ queue of 1 is like 17mbps (comparing to ioxtreme which is 40+).

yes it isnt part of the trace. i have only ran it because that is one of many comparisons i have made to the benchmarks provided in the review. if they had one at some other size as well i would run it. i believe i have ran almost all of them...40+?? i missed that part!i have reached over 90 before with one worker? would you care to see the screenshot? i never tire of posting them.

You can not mirror real world usage with iometer. It is impossible. The config they have made has absolutely no relation to the real world. It is just a read/write test with 4kb-64kb files @ queue 64. First of all the queue is all wrong as you have already mentioned.

Second of all (and more importantly) this approach is inherently wrong. Let me dumb it down for you so you can hopefully understand. Say you have a program that does 100% reads for 5 seconds and 100% writes for another 5 seconds. Tracing it and converting it to iometer would run this "real world simulation" as 10 seconds of 50% reads/50% writes, which would produce a result that is COMPLETELY UNRELATED to the performance of the original application. Running a very complicated simulation, like bootup just makes it even more useless if that is even possible.

partially true, partially not. unfortunately we cannot get a perfect picture of system usage, however we can get close. you assign levels of access to the individual components, giving some more precedence than others, giving you an albeit imperfect, yet blurry view. you dont agree with it because it makes your solutions, such as i/o extreme and x-25, slow. they cannot do read and write at the same time and have decent numbers. how real world is THAT???? and with the way that things are going with you and your acceptance of things, it doesnt matter how close we get anyway tbh. its like the access times. i show you how i actually have faster access than the i/o extreme and you immediately start another thread in the forum about how the computer industry in general must be measuring access times incorrectly.
dude that is awesome.
because someone has results you either A: dont agree with or B: dont believe, you begin to question the industry as a whole. you are awesome i love these long talks with you in circles. what is in that guys signature, particles rules of internet or something? i would look it up but god im sick of looking things up, i must save myself for refuting your next post. anyways it goes something like this:

Whoever repeats the same thing over and over for the longest period of time will win

i believe you are banking on that my friend, as your posts are becoming increasingly repetitive. but hey, im here all night!