Yeah, I'd return it if possible and go with the EK or wait for the swifty. Hopefully my EK will be here by saturday, if not I can wait till monday.![]()
Wow, that is not very good. I would have thought coming from BP it would have been better than that. My EK block does well and obviously so does Swiftech's. I would try and return it and swap for one of those.
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Wow, those Bitspower internals are pathetic....
Agree - bad news on the BP block.
Gotta say the EK 5850 block is performing just fine.
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Has anyone been able to make a comparison of the blocks that are already out? From what I've seen it looks like only the EK, Bitspower and Koolance blocks are available for purchase. The EK block performs well, the BP block sucks and no reviews of the Koolance?
There are Aquacomputer 5850/5870 blocks avalaible also.
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Well, I tried to fit my old D-tek GFX2 on the 5870 and found out that the cooler was indeed hardmounted to the baseplate. Since I was always a fan of using the baseplate to cool the VRM's and wanted to try that now as well, I put the stock cooler back on. I'll have to go out and buy an FC block.
Am not sure what prices do for you guys, but the difference between them is huge out here (the Netherlands):
Bitspower €129
EK €79 - €89
Koolance €99
DD €149
Aquacomputer €68
Since Aquatuning is still not getting my money, it looks like the only reasonable choice I have is between Koolance and EK.
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Cooling: Swiftech MCP355 + XSPC ResTop | ThermoChill Pa120.2 & TFC X-changer 120 | Swiftech Apogee XT | EK-FC5870 Acetal+Nickel | Tygon 3603 |Feser Ultra Pure + Corrosion blocker | 6*Scythe S-Flex F @ Scythe Kaze Master Ace
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I'm a little confused on temperature's. I'm using a koolance full block on my 5870. All them temps look good in GPU-Z except for the following:
GPU Temp #1 27.5 34 during load
GPU Temp #2 56.5 Jumps to 85+ with 3dmark!!!
GPU Temp #3 50.0 Jumps to 85+ with 3dmark!!!
VDDC Phase #1 Temp: 29 40 during load
VDDC Phase #2 Temp: 30 40 during load
VDDC Phase #3 Temp: 31 40 during load
VDDC Phase #4 Temp: 31 40 during load
The GPU #2 and #3 concerns me. I haven't tried to re-seat the block due to the fact everything else looks great especially GPU Temp #1
I would greatly appreciate any advise! Thanks!
I tested using dual 5870's with DD full blocks. During extreme Furmark stability tests I am getting ~55c. I am ~2c between GPU1,2,3. My VDDC is 49c during those tests again with about ~1.5c difference between VDDCs. all above temps were after Furmark was running for at least 30 mins.
I am getting ~33-35c at idle (sitting at the desktop) on the GPU's. My VDDCs at idle are ~35-36
Definitely sounds like you have a GPU block seating issue.![]()
Same here with my EK-FC5870.
GPU temp #1, 2 and 3 all within 5*C.
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gotcha I'll try resetting the block. Thanks for the help!
Can anybody verify that this http://www.zalman.com/ENG/product/Pr...ad.asp?idx=335 will fit to the 5870 vrm's? It is for 4870's
XSPC Razor 5870 will be available from next week. http://www.xspc.biz/razor5870.php
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And mosfets are singing: far, far away (from water)![]()
Originally Posted by creidiki
Shhh, Eddy! I already bought your block! :P
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Cooling: Swiftech MCP355 + XSPC ResTop | ThermoChill Pa120.2 & TFC X-changer 120 | Swiftech Apogee XT | EK-FC5870 Acetal+Nickel | Tygon 3603 |Feser Ultra Pure + Corrosion blocker | 6*Scythe S-Flex F @ Scythe Kaze Master Ace
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Full cover blocks should start being truly full cover, meaning actively cooling all major components...
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2nd loop -> Radiator: ThermoChill PA120.3 | Pump: Laing DDC-3.2 with Alphacool HF 38 top | GPU: 2 x EK FC-6870 | Tubing: Masterkleer 1/2" UV
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Yo Eddy EK just wondering you guys working on a 5970 FC waterblock yet ? Not sure if you got a pre-release card or not. Just figured you dudes mit with working with Powercolor shrug.
Oh and well hmm your CoolingConfigurator system is not the greatest. I tried to use it and each time your CoolingConfigurator said your EK-FC9800 GTX SLI would not fit my Evga e-GeForce 9800GTX+ P/N: 512-P3-N873-AR which in fact it did just fine. Just saying I took a gamble on the block and it came out fine. But if I just went by your CoolingConfigurator you would of lost out on a sale. I understand you can't test or have every GPU out there but the only change on my older 9800GTX+ from the 9800GTX was the Core and same PCB.
Hi, The 5970 block is ready, but NO ONE has the physical card AFAIK. Therefore waiting for the card and after it will be confirmed we'll soon have them available for sale.
Regarding the CC.com I would appreciate if you could send me e-mail with these info and if possible PCB picture and we'll be happy to update the system. Thanks!
Originally Posted by creidiki
Just recieved the EK FC5870 Acetal+Nickel in the mail. The block looks incredible. The outside has a flawless finish, buth the threads in the acetal had some leftover scrapings in them. They were easily removed however and it's ready to be mounted on the 5870 now.
This is my first EK part and I'm really pleased with the look of it so far.![]()
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Cooling: Swiftech MCP355 + XSPC ResTop | ThermoChill Pa120.2 & TFC X-changer 120 | Swiftech Apogee XT | EK-FC5870 Acetal+Nickel | Tygon 3603 |Feser Ultra Pure + Corrosion blocker | 6*Scythe S-Flex F @ Scythe Kaze Master Ace
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I would ask somebody who know this block personally (he designed or used it / saw it working...): EK-FC5850 I bought it for my Sapphire HD5850 which is a reference design.
When I mounted it first (This is not the first VGA block in my life, but I followed the equipped manual step-by-step. I used the equipped thermal pads, and screws).
When I powered up my PC I thought everything is fine, my GPU temperature was ~38 C˙ at idle and ~50 C˙under Furmark load. So I was happy and tried with some Ghz+ overclock because I already achieved the 1000Mhz with the stock cooler (with a little, +0,1V, so it is a good chip...). But the card started to crash at higher Vcores and when I checked the GPU-Z sensor tab I was scared. All three VDDC Phase Temperatures was ~120 C (with 1000Mhz and 1.187V). I stopped the fur rendering and temperatures felt back to ~40 C˙very fast. But this was not only an oveclocking problem, because I had 90+ C˙with stock frequencies and voltages.
So, I dismounted the block and my verdict was that everything was fine. I could see the edge of the chips on every thermal pad. They all stayed on the block (I placed them on the PCB before mount...) and it seemed like they was smoothly depressed.
If I was there anyway, I applied some Artic MX2 on VRM chips and remounted the block. But I had to dismount it again in a sort time because my VDDC temperatures lowered by some degrees only, and my card was unstable even at stock values now.
I don't had any other idea so I mounted it without standoffs. My card is working now. I can use it on stock values but VDDC Temperature is still a bit higher then it was with the stock cooler and it hit 90 C˙at 1000Mhz. So this is not the best state on the performance side but it worse on safety side because the PCB is deformed badly between the RAMs and the VRM (it has a bad deformation between these sections and parallel everywhere else...).
My GPU temperature is always fine, it newer reached more then 52 C˙, but my FATs will die if I would overclock my GPU (which seems to have a lot of overclock potencie).
Any idea?
Last edited by janos666; 11-21-2009 at 05:27 PM.
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