After Intel's "Sandy Bridge" leak, here is AMD's CPU/GPU mix up: four K10 cores w/ 1MB L2, no L3 and a side strapped GPU core.
More here.
After Intel's "Sandy Bridge" leak, here is AMD's CPU/GPU mix up: four K10 cores w/ 1MB L2, no L3 and a side strapped GPU core.
More here.
sweet! now we need Hans to decipher building blocks and size
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That looks to be the 2011 Llanos APU product.
presentation from Chekib Akrout, General Manager, Technology Group could be very interesting!
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What's up with the constant "32nm is 2011 thing"?Originally Posted by terrace215
It's been a known fact for over a year now...
BTW,thanks for sharing the pic and news fellix_bg. Interesting approach used by AMD,make a monolithic APU with "older" core but with a new gpu, on a new node.This could be a training of sorts for bulldozer parts that will follow soon after.
Last edited by informal; 11-11-2009 at 10:24 AM.
Nice shot.
That dark "thing" in the lower part must be the GPU/IGP, but looks so strange...
AMD+ATI chip starting to become real (long way until real product, I know).
what do you mean "older core"?
I wasn't aware of AMD quad-core CPU with 1MB L2 per core (and probably some more greenish squares on it)
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I mean 10h and not bd/ontariowhat do you mean "older core"?
I wasn't aware of AMD quad-core CPU with 1MB L2 per core (and probably some more greenish squares on it. L2 increase is a bonus but not design change that meant huge investments in redesign(look at Regor vs Propus
Soooo in 2011, the bulldozer core is going to be 8 & 6 cores version, and the interlagos platform is going to be bulldozer MCMs?. Seems really promising if they can deliver!
Hope that bulldozer core kicks some serious ass!
Well, if you think about the potential benefits compared to the risks on the engineering side it makes sense. By using the existing core they should really only have to deal with shrinking it to the smaller node size and not worry so much about potentially changing specs, but more on the overall picture; verification should be easier at least.What's up with the constant "32nm is 2011 thing"?
It's been a known fact for over a year now...
BTW,thanks for sharing the pic and news fellix_bg. Interesting approach used by AMD,make a monolithic APU with "older" core but with a new gpu, on a new node.This could be a training of sorts for bulldozer parts that will follow soon after.
Also, you have to remember the segment that it's targeting, ie. it's more of a mainstream part that doesn't need as high performance of a core.
What I'm more interested in is how much it shares in common with Ontario and the actual structure, ie. the shared memory controller/etc. Since Akrout went through the subject rather quickly, hopefully they go in depth during the APU breakout session
How many SP(ATI GPU) in the APU ?
When AMD had 64-bit and Intel had only 32-bit, they tried to tell the world there was no need for 64-bit. Until they got 64-bit.
When AMD had IMC and Intel had FSB, they told the world "there is plenty of life left in the FSB" (actual quote, and yes, they had *math* to show it had more bandwidth). Until they got an IMC.
When AMD had dual core and Intel had single core, they told the world that consumers don't need multi core. Until they got dual core.
When intel was using MCM, they said it was a better solution than native dies. Until they got native dies. (To be fair, we knocked *unconnected* MCM, and still do, we never knocked MCM as a technology, so hold your flames.)by John Fruehe
@vietthanhpro: Hm, round 240 id say.
They are saying its 480.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...rocessors.html
And Anand is saying AMD is saying it will be GigaFLOP APU
In other words HD4850 ALU performance .
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for some reason I trust w0mbat most of allAnd Anand is saying AMD is saying it will be GigaFLOP APU
In other words HD4850 ALU performance .
but could we move this conversation in to the "official" thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=238702
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i see 6 SIMDs on the die so thats 480 alu's. looks like they changed the layout of the SIMDs to make it fit nicely and they still have a lot of space left for moar cores.
for some reason I trust w0mbat most of all
but could we move this conversation in to the "official" thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=238702
this time it seems 480 is the correct figure.
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And now we can see the complete die shot of 32nm Llano core,not the cropped version
Complete slide
And re-sized:
640SP ? lol
When AMD had 64-bit and Intel had only 32-bit, they tried to tell the world there was no need for 64-bit. Until they got 64-bit.
When AMD had IMC and Intel had FSB, they told the world "there is plenty of life left in the FSB" (actual quote, and yes, they had *math* to show it had more bandwidth). Until they got an IMC.
When AMD had dual core and Intel had single core, they told the world that consumers don't need multi core. Until they got dual core.
When intel was using MCM, they said it was a better solution than native dies. Until they got native dies. (To be fair, we knocked *unconnected* MCM, and still do, we never knocked MCM as a technology, so hold your flames.)by John Fruehe
Where did you find it?And now we can see the complete die shot of 32nm Llano core,not the cropped version
Complete slide
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Teh internetz is full of nice stuffWhere did you find it?
Actually i got a link to the slide via e-mail
PS The thing at the bottom does look like a "bit" bigger GPU,or could also be northbridge-related for all we know.
Last edited by informal; 11-12-2009 at 08:50 AM.
According to PC Watch:
kaigai13.jpg
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/c...12_328392.html
Faceman
4770/4850/57x0 cards had mem bandwidth about 64Gb/s, 4670 had twice less.
How they gonna provide at least 32Gb/s to their IGP ?
@ Face
That picture of Llano die is actually not complete
The not-cropped picture shows much greater section dedicated to GPU,approx. ~480SP.Total die size est. 200+mm2,est. IMC is 192b wide supporting 1600Mz DDR3 memory.
So Llano is the second Fusion stage, combining SPs with X86 arch K10 cores. The final Fusion stage (full integration) will fusion (so appropiate) with Bulldozer arch? Or it will implicate a full new architecture? Talking about 2012 i supose...
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