COD MW2 - No PB support and Dedicated Servers

[Spawne32]

Another interesting leak....

http://www.liveleak.com/item?a=view&...364_1256689255

[STEvil]

in case it gets pulled:

This is the Modern Warfare 2 video that Activision doesn't want you to see, in which you play a CIA operative undercover as a terrorist who mows down dozens of innocent civilians in an airport.

Activision has since had the video removed from YouTube, MetaCritic and every other video hosting website that has attempted to show you this content because they do not want the bad publicity that the More.. shocking and violent content within will undoubtedly bring, especially from mass media news outlets

[Spawne32]

yeh its pretty brutal even by my standards, and i have no standards lol thats all we need is teenagers trying to duplicate this mission in a fit of retarded rage

[IronWarrior]

yeh its pretty brutal even by my standards, and i have no standards lol thats all we need is teenagers trying to duplicate this mission in a fit of retarded rage

Don't give them ideas, they already do that in schools.



What really interests me is IW's fail at trying to stop the leaks.

[Spawne32]

Don't give them ideas, they already do that in schools.



What really interests me is IW's fail at trying to stop the leaks.

lol trying to stop the leaks cus they know exactly whats gona happen if it gets out, they probably already pulled the mission. Funny part is, its like the first mission, which makes no sense to me, heres a game that can support a fantastic single player campaign, and your first mission is a 9/11 style massacre of an airport where you do nothing but kill civilians and then you die, and then the real game starts.

[villa1n]

That is surreal they made a level like that... so realistic.. not a dm type run through spraying, but a methodical, tactical slaughter..
The media is definitely going to jump all over this... lol if they thought dedi support is bad.. this is gonna be 10 times worse.

[faster3200]

Have you guys heard about third person mode? Supposedly there is a game multiplayer game type that allows you to play in third person, hopefully it won't be togglable during normal play. If the rest of the stuff didn't prove they are catering to console players, I think this does. I will post a link if I can find it again.

[SoulsCollective]

Two pages back.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=573

[faster3200]

Two pages back.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=573

Darn... I knew I shouldn't be posting while waiting for the L4D 2 demo.

[Vinas]

This is starting to get really frustrating, been waiting for a Battlefield 2 replacement for over 5 years now. But they just seem to f*ck up every release with some stupid gimmicks. Huge hopes for OFP2 which was moved onto waiting for MW2 which seems to be full of fail.....now I guess I'll wait for BF BC 2 and pray for the FPS gods to be mercyful this time. If not it's time to sell my hardware and buy a laptop or a netbook and play flash games & solitare.

OFP2 is not OFP... OFP name was sold and then ruined... You need to buy ARMA2 because it is made by the original OFP team and is everything the original OFP was plus awesome multiplayer support. As for the OP they can have this game. With no real multiplayer support this game is already dead just like OFP2.

[Eastcoasthandle]

OFP2 is not OFP... OFP name was sold and then ruined... You need to buy ARMA2 because it is made by the original OFP team and is everything the original OFP was plus awesome multiplayer support. As for the OP they can have this game. With no real multiplayer support this game is already dead just like OFP2.

Arma 2 is a horrible game IMO. Everything from gameplay to graphics turn me completely off from playing it. Just because a game is made by someone you like doesn't make the game better.

But that's the problem in a nutshell. Loyalty based on who makes the game can skew any real criticism of the game itself. Which is why those who are not loyal can heavily oppose MW2. For example:
-dated graphics for a $60 PC Game. Where is the DX11 support? Where is the DX10/DX10.1 support?
-uninspiring game play
-the opening sequence in the mall is distasteful
-same game play time as the 1st game
-no dedicated server support
-questionable dlc
-etc, etc.

[naokaji]

I can't believe it... so not only does IW screw pc gamers (which unfortunately to be honest is to be expected these days), but also help out all the religious nutjobs who try to get gaming banned all together.

[SoulsCollective]

Well, IW did make the last game somewhat confronting - the second mission allows you to do nothing but die ("playing" as the soon-to-be-assassinated President), and about halfway through your character is also killed off, while you're "playing" them, by the nuke exploding. I'm not surprised they're doing something similar this time.

[XKaan]

Here we are more than a week after the news hit and I STILL can't believe there are no dedi's. So, I now look to the future to see what can become my next game. Competition on CoD4 is getting a bit boring, just because everyone is sick of the normal rotation: vacant, strike, crash etc. What would be great is if the leagues either independantly or through collaboration help a custom map competition, followed up by an entire season of JUST custom maps.

They could provide some prizes for top 5 maps, (nice prizes, to motivate the map makers) and then the competitive community could scrim the maps and vote on the best. Once the best are chosen regular seasons could start. I don't know, I think it would extend CoD4's life a bit, and lessen the blow of Mw2 being taken from us.

The other alternative is just go to a new (or old) game. I used to love the Unreal games, and recently I fired up UT3, but man are the servers DEAD! But, on the horizon we have:

1.) BC2
2.) BF3 (way out there)
3.) Tactical Intervention (Not sure how this will be received)
4.) A new Red orchestra based on UT3 engine (might end up multi-platfrom though : (
5.) Supposedly a new MoH set in modern combat. (But if Airborne is any indication of how they intend to trat the PC community then forget it)


Anybody else care to chime in? Am I missing anything?

[Eastcoasthandle]

Here we are more than a week after the news hit and I STILL can't believe there are no dedi's. So, I now look to the future to see what can become my next game. Competition on CoD4 is getting a bit boring, just because everyone is sick of the normal rotation: vacant, strike, crash etc. What would be great is if the leagues either independantly or through collaboration help a custom map competition, followed up by an entire season of JUST custom maps.

They could provide some prizes for top 5 maps, (nice prizes, to motivate the map makers) and then the competitive community could scrim the maps and vote on the best. Once the best are chosen regular seasons could start. I don't know, I think it would extend CoD4's life a bit, and lessen the blow of Mw2 being taken from us.
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Anybody else care to chime in? Am I missing anything?

Your on the right track. Now is the time for the modding community to step up to the plate and create some decent MP maps for COD4. Not only that but some decent texture updates for the game itself. They really need to band together and come up with some great maps. That will attract the community. But until then, IMO, voting with your wallet is just the 1st step to this process.

[Starscream]

Interesting read you guys might like: http://insomnia.ac/commentary/pc_game_piracy/

nice read i agree with some bits and disagree with other parts.
Its mostly just an observation.

I agree that most companys r to blind to see the real problem to piracy.

And i completely agree with the kid that ripped that SimCity game. I loved simcity and when that new one came i read loads of reviews where they said it was diffrent so i ripped it and i hated it and uninstalled it in less then 10 min of playing, they rly shouldnt have called it SimCity.

I think alot of companys also blame piracy because sales r lower then what they expected. But sales r lower because the quality of games has gone down.

Also there is more competition.
At the start the PC and console both had their own games and now PC games also apear on the console so the console wil ofc steal away sales of the PC version.
People can only spend their money once and they wont buy the same game on more then 1 platform. You cant expect a PC game to sell as good as the previous PC title did if the new one also apears on several consoles.

Like said people can only spend their money once and nowadays there is alot of competition, 3 consoles, 2 handhelds, cell phones and other things that cost money that didnt exist 10 or 20 years ago.

The amount of downloads on a torrent site doesnt equal to amount of piracy or even the amount of lost customers.
I pirate games to test them and sometimes it means they lose my sale (cause the game sucks) and sometimes it means they have won a sale cause it rocked and i bought it.
I did like the bit in the article where he wrote that companys dont care if u buy a game and hate it because they already have their sale. And that they dislike it if u rip it find out it sucks and dont end up buying it.

I think it was a Sony exec who said that they think piracy would go down if games where cheaper and im shure sales would increase if prices would go down. Its one of the reasons why the sites that sell key codes have been growing so fast. You get the game on launch day (and can even download from Steam if its a steam game) and you pay alot less then in retail or on Steam.

[Easybeat]

Here we are more than a week after the news hit and I STILL can't believe there are no dedi's. So, I now look to the future to see what can become my next game. Competition on CoD4 is getting a bit boring, just because everyone is sick of the normal rotation: vacant, strike, crash etc. What would be great is if the leagues either independantly or through collaboration help a custom map competition, followed up by an entire season of JUST custom maps.

They could provide some prizes for top 5 maps, (nice prizes, to motivate the map makers) and then the competitive community could scrim the maps and vote on the best. Once the best are chosen regular seasons could start. I don't know, I think it would extend CoD4's life a bit, and lessen the blow of Mw2 being taken from us.

Last year I was heavily into mapping for CoD4, a lot of people left the scene and others moved onto WaW, but there are still a lot of excellent custom maps and mods out there, the trouble is most gamers don't try them. There are lots of reasons for this but mainly its the download speed as most re-directs are painfully slow and by the time you have downloaded a 50mb map its time for the next one. Getting them from a 3rd party is a better option but again its not done as often as a lot of the maps deserve.

Also as someone mentioned there are only so many assets in the game, creating new ones is time consuming over and above making a map which alone takes about 2 months from scratch. Without new assets all of the maps become samey with only 2 types of grass, 3 exploding cars and 2 rock textures etc.

Anyway there's plenty of good stuff out there already, so many I don't think competitions would increase the quality that much.

[XKaan]

Also as someone mentioned there are only so many assets in the game, creating new ones is time consuming over and above making a map which alone takes about 2 months from scratch. Without new assets all of the maps become samey with only 2 types of grass, 3 exploding cars and 2 rock textures etc.

Great point...I never really thought of that.

[Eastcoasthandle]

From what the community just posted it appears that IW has remove hardcore mode from the PS3 version. Makes you wonder what changes may have been made on the xbox 360 version. Looks like the PS3 crowd is up in arms over this. At this time their forums are down.
Link

[Vit^pr0n]

From what the community just posted it appears that IW has remove hardcore mode from the PS3 version. Makes you wonder what changes may have been made on the xbox 360 version. Looks like the PS3 crowd is up in arms over this. At this time their forums are down.
Link

I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft has most of, if not all to do with this. Apparently the 360 will keep all the features so Activision/IW has been paid off by MS to completely botch the other versions to get people to buy it for the 360.

Now that the PS3 community is getting screwed over as well, I hope that our voices will finally be heard. It's time to stop letting developers bend us over and take whatever they give us just because they can.

[Psykocyber]

Wow, is it "Screw everyone!" month at IW?

[XKaan]

This is interesting indeed!

Take note, MW2 has NEVER (to my knowledge) been shown in public or on Gametrailers etc on a PC or PS3, ONLY XBOX 360. Every screen, every video etc. has always been on XBOX.

The only version of the game to not have any portion cut is the XBOx 360. PS3 players are being scrwed with HC mode taken out on certain gametypes, and we have lost Dedi's and Mod tools.

My assumption is that IW\Activ decided a long time ago to pull this crap, but never expected the backlash they are seeing.

I think the week of Nov 10 - 17th is going to be exciting, not because I'll be playing the ty game, but because I can't wait to see actual sales figures as well as PLAYER feedback. It will sell like mad on XBOX, but news travels fast and I wouldn't be surprised to see a drop in PS3 sales because of their fiasco.

Last but not least, IF IW\Activ throws HC mode back in for PS3 players......wel, you know where I am going with this.

[Easybeat]

From what the community just posted it appears that IW has remove hardcore mode from the PS3 version. Makes you wonder what changes may have been made on the xbox 360 version. Looks like the PS3 crowd is up in arms over this. At this time their forums are down.
Link

Not sure if they are removing HC but simply limiting the number of possible game types you can play it on. There was a topic by a IW forum Mod who was not happy about this in the least when he received a response from a Dev on this point.

It seems to me they are really dumbing down this game to the lowest common denominator.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Not sure if they are removing HC but simply limiting the number of possible game types you can play it on. There was a topic by a IW forum Mod who was not happy about this in the least when he received a response from a Dev on this point.

It seems to me they are really dumbing down this game to the lowest common denominator.

From what the community is saying the forum is "disabled" and all threads have been erased. I am not sure how true that is at this time.

However, I found something very interesting. You can read it for yourself here. This person has a very valid point based on that interview. How could not not know about a month ago? That 402 guy was quoted confirming that PC version would be the same.

But read it for yourself. The article is dated Sept 22, 2009.

Shack: By the way, have you changed the way multiplayer games function on the PC at all?

Robert Bowling: PC will be the same as it always was.

Shack: LAN support as well?

Robert Bowling: LAN support, yes.

[Starscream]

im guessing IW will later on offer some DLC wich will activate HC but ofc only if u pay for it.

Wil HC also be disabled on XBox360?