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    That depends.. my RIIE is a POS, I have a board wall at 212 (213 3D starts getting funky), 214 and up no boot. I tried 5 CPUs already, 3 of which are Gulftowns that ran >230 on other RIIE's, just not this one
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    Gulftown is running hotter at the nb , look at the temp of yours and be sure the cooler has good contact , running 200-220 with a Q3QR and its 54 degrees at 1,20v bios set with waterblock instead of the aircoolblock heatpipe cooler still attached.

    normal i7 is pretty cool but the water will give more stabillity at high bclock.(225+)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rol-Co View Post
    Max bclock is cpu related not the board, so a god chip is needed too. old bios have the 222 wall like some board still have because of the high qpi.
    New bios solved that issue and using 1504.
    I confirm and not because my chip could 220 on re2 that's the point
    I tried 1504 but 1406 works better for me because of the lower vcore and qpi needed
    anyway i'll try 920 for the next 1-2 weeks and probably change to i7 960

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rol-Co View Post
    Gulftown is running hotter at the nb , look at the temp of yours and be sure the cooler has good contact , running 200-220 with a Q3QR and its 54 degrees at 1,20v bios set with waterblock instead of the aircoolblock heatpipe cooler still attached.

    normal i7 is pretty cool but the water will give more stabillity at high bclock.(225+)
    Dude, my NB temps are at 38C or so (Mips Fusion Block on it, and I swapped the stock TIM for MX-3) so that is not the issue. heck, I've tried 5 different CPUs, 4 ramkits, 3 VGAs, and a few bios versions - this (my) RIIE is just what it is, a POS clocker

    Because max BCLK VERY MUCH depends on the board
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    Max bclk on classified depends on
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    Having a little problems with the stability of oc aswell..
    running a 920 d0 with dominator gt 2ghz cl8 using s224 bios..
    computer is fully stable for gaming and normal stuff and passed 10x of linx on the s222 bios but now it will bsod within 5passes.. usually "IRQL_NOT_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL"
    any ideas what to do??
    temps in linx have never passed 56degrees celsius and pwms never passed 58c so its not temperature related..
    I need pretty high vtt as well anything under +300mv will give BSOD 124 "general hardware failure" which indicates vtt voltage .. been trying alot of settings for both vtt and cpu, and on the s222 bios I used 1.3125v for cpu and it was stable.
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    PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 101 )


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    Memory Frequency ( 2001Mhz / 2:10 )
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    tCL Setting ( 8 )
    tRCD Setting ( 8 )
    tRP Setting ( 8 )
    tRAS Setting ( 24 )
    tRFC Setting ( 59 )
    Command Rate ( 1t )


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    EVGA VDroop Control ( Without VDroop )
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    CPU VTT Voltage ( +275 )
    CPU PLL VCore ( 1.8 )
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    DIMM Voltage ( 1.65 )
    DIMM DQ Vref ( +0mV )
    QPI PLL VCore ( 1.35 )
    IOH VCore ( 1.1 )
    IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( 1.500 )
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    CPU PWM Frequency ( 1210 )
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    CxE Function ( Disabled )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobbylite View Post
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    Max bclk on classified depends on
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    hmm...I have very low temps on my cpu but i can't push over bclk 215 why??
    cpu easily run bclk 220 on re2?i will check under SS this weekend,we'll see

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    jcool, i wouldnt call a 212 max bclock a pos board... but yes, its not what you expect from such an expensive board...
    sounds like no pciE mod and/or bad memory timings? more relaxed trfc and rtl should enable higher bclocks in combination with higher pciE clocks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    jcool, i wouldnt call a 212 max bclock a pos board... but yes, its not what you expect from such an expensive board...
    sounds like no pciE mod and/or bad memory timings? more relaxed trfc and rtl should enable higher bclocks in combination with higher pciE clocks...
    RIIE doesn't need PCIe mods, it's the top-end OC board from Assus
    I know a few people that can do 240+ on theirs, just mine can't. Tried playing with TRFC up to 110 or so, no change. I can run 211 with 10x dram so high dram speed/high uncore is not even a problem. I didn't really tweak the rtl settings since I don't know how to really, I do know is that other people who can run >230 on the RIIE didn't bother tweaking rtls either

    I don't have to tweak them on my DFI to get to 230 either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstkl1 View Post
    max bclk depends on
    1.CPU
    2.Dram chipset
    3.Mobo..

    all three. but like jcool said mobo really plays the part.. suspect is the accuracy on the voltage being fed.

    That order is right, and if these 3 are the only factor, then ..

    Quote Originally Posted by 71proste View Post
    hmm...I have very low temps on my cpu but i can't push over bclk 215 why??
    cpu easily run bclk 220 on re2?i will check under SS this weekend,we'll see
    If using the same RAM too, then it means only MB (Or maybe the BIOS?) is left as the limiting factor for BCLK?

    How stable current the CPU is getting is vary dependent on MB, and will affect the high OC too, But on most i7-batches the IMC (and RAM) seams to be the biggest problem the stability of high BCLK >215.

    Stability av RAM and IMC plays a big role in high BCLK, but some BIOS seams to have better default values (or/and better options to adjust stuff ..) to get the RAM and IMC stable at high BCLk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 71proste View Post
    hmm...I have very low temps on my cpu but i can't push over bclk 215 why??
    cpu easily run bclk 220 on re2?i will check under SS this weekend,we'll see
    like -40c low ? I bet any cpu can go over 220 on classified with enough cold. Thats the point I was making
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcool View Post
    RIIE doesn't need PCIe mods, it's the top-end OC board from Assus
    I know a few people that can do 240+ on theirs, just mine can't. Tried playing with TRFC up to 110 or so, no change. I can run 211 with 10x dram so high dram speed/high uncore is not even a problem. I didn't really tweak the rtl settings since I don't know how to really, I do know is that other people who can run >230 on the RIIE didn't bother tweaking rtls either
    I know exactly what u mean and confirm
    I had same issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_oslo View Post
    That order is right, and if these 3 are the only factor, then ..



    If using the same RAM too, then it means only MB (Or maybe the BIOS?) is left as the limiting factor for BCLK?

    yes same ram,same cpu

    How stable current the CPU is getting is vary dependent on MB, and will affect the high OC too, But on most i7-batches the IMC (and RAM) seams to be the biggest problem the stability of high BCLK >215.
    well...215x21 run linx/prime95 no problems
    216x21 I can't even open the cpu-z and ratio drops to x20 is it not weird?I don't need full stability if u know what I mean
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_oslo View Post
    Stability av RAM and IMC plays a big role in high BCLK, but some BIOS seams to have better default values (or/and better options to adjust stuff ..) to get the RAM and IMC stable at high BCLk.
    what bios in your opinion is the best for max bclk?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobbylite View Post
    like -40c low ? I bet any cpu can go over 220 on classified with enough cold. Thats the point I was making
    bet?how much?
    we'll see after this weekend
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcool View Post
    RIIE doesn't need PCIe mods, it's the top-end OC board from Assus
    I know a few people that can do 240+ on theirs, just mine can't. Tried playing with TRFC up to 110 or so, no change. I can run 211 with 10x dram so high dram speed/high uncore is not even a problem. I didn't really tweak the rtl settings since I don't know how to really, I do know is that other people who can run >230 on the RIIE didn't bother tweaking rtls either

    I don't have to tweak them on my DFI to get to 230 either.
    Can you post youre settings? pci-e, qpi voltage,ioh voltage, cpu settings, and if you disabled all onboard hw or not?

    just to see if you ave something different, had 3 board here now and 2 ws revolutions but all did the 240.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 71proste View Post
    well...215x21 run linx/prime95 no problems
    216x21 I can't even open the cpu-z and ratio drops to x20 is it not weird?I don't need full stability if u know what I mean


    what bios in your opinion is the best for max bclk?


    Oh, I see what you mean. If you are 24/7 stable at 215x21, then your Core will have no problem with running CPU-z at 216x21. This is a typical Uncore or IMC problem. You can diagnose the Uncore by trying it x12, or x14 (just to see if it helps)

    I don't use this MB, and you have to ask Classy nerds about the BIOS, but I can make wild guess that the latest official would be your best bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rol-Co View Post
    Can you post youre settings? pci-e, qpi voltage,ioh voltage, cpu settings, and if you disabled all onboard hw or not?

    just to see if you ave something different, had 3 board here now and 2 ws revolutions but all did the 240.
    Tried PCIe 101-120, VTT (it's not QPI voltage FFS ) from 1,3-1,55, IOH from 1,2-1,45, disabled all the unneeded CPU crap like Vanderppol, C-States, TM etc and also disabled the legacy crap (floppy, serial/parallel ports etc).

    Short of playing with rtl's I have done everything, and it's always the same behaviour no matter what CPU or VGA or Dram I use.

    211 - perfectly fine (at really low voltages too), 212 fine for 2D, slight FPS drops in 3D already, 213 ultra-slow-motion mode, usually won't even boot in under 5 minutes, no 3D performance to speak of left ^^

    214 and above no post. Tried everything between 214 and 230, nothing. Raising the BCLK in WIndows doesn't workeither, it usually freezes at 214.

    It just is a bad board I got (even though a brand new one with Rev. 13 NB), I've made my peace with that - and bought a pretested E760
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcool View Post
    I've made my peace with that - and bought a pretested E760
    you had an option at least
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    Hey guys i have this MB with an i7940 and sometimes for some reason when i start up the comp, its botting up, goes thru the intial start up etc etc and then it gets held up on the Pool Devices to be loaded up? So it will read out all the slots and info on the board and after that 2 pool devices should load up followed by dots after them and then bam VIsta64 should come on but it doesnt always do that. I have everything loaded up on defualt settings in the bios, i have the lates updated Bios flash. What could be the cause of the issue you guys think? I am running normal air cooled, no over clocked anything just yet i have a WC setup coming in. ANy help would be great !! or some type of settings in the bios? memory? PSU?

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    A little exercise that kept me out of the pub last night

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    Awesome chip dude
    My 975 ES couldn't do that, and I was running on SS too
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    I just got my rma installed. I still get these electrical noises comming from the board. Its really annoying. Best way to describe it is open a chat window and hit backspace. Each time you hit the key its one click of the wheel on the mouse. Hold backspace down and thats how it is when I start a game. Why? I am ready to get my money back and try something a little less aggressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kitfit1 View Post
    A little exercise that kept me out of the pub last night

    wow
    what was the max temp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 71proste View Post
    wow
    what was the max temp?
    It varied between 23c and 28c.
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    Pushed it a bit further this morning
    Oh i love this chip

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