Quote Originally Posted by annihilat0r View Post
Have no idea why people are so psyched to see a real GT300 and are talking trash because Nvidia is yet to show one.

Sorry but when was the first time we saw a 5870 card shot? One month before its release, right?

Then what makes you think there must be something wrong with Nvidia if they can't show a working card right now? At most it only shows that we won't have GT300 in the next month. Big deal.
just think about it... would any of us be reading this thread or a similar thread if nvidia wouldnt have shown gt300 at all? this thread wouldnt even exist...

its like driving to work and then yelling "hey everybody, check out my new car" and its just a normal toyota or nissan city car... how can you complain about people ripping on you for that car? yes, theres nothing wrong with it, but obviously people expected something better when you tried to get their attention...

Quote Originally Posted by randomizer View Post
The trash talking is not because they haven't shown us a real card, it's because they showed a fake card. I'd have had more respect for them if they showed nothing and just said "it's not ready yet." But Jen-Hsun rarely commands respect.
exactly

well i doubt jensen is actually involved in business decisions at nvidia... but i must say, i have the greatest respect for nvidias engineers and their business managers... i mean the REAL business guys you never hear of or see in a meeting or presentation etc... nvidia has been run very very well from a business point of view in the past... and their engineering, gpu wise, has been excellent most of the time...

nvidias biggest problem atm is that the top guys are not really in touch with the rest of the company, mostly their engineering guys... in theory, jensens visions are great and he really knows whats going on and is swimming in the ether and all... but what he wants to do and what their engineers and tsmc etc CAN do is quite diferent and he seems to ignore it and think itll get solved by itself or if he insists long enough things will suddenly start to work miraculously