Quote Originally Posted by DilTech View Post
The difference here is the GTX-380 is a brand new architecture, while the 5870 is still the same as the 4870 with double everything but the memory bandwidth and clock speeds. ATi are reaching the point of diminishing returns with the 5870, which is the problem we see and what stopped them from seeing double the performance. NVidia's new architectures have generally produced double the performance, if not more.

As for the fact that they aren't speaking about the gaming performance...of course not. They would tick off all their partners if they killed off their current gen sales by telling the consumer about their next gen performance.
What are the ground breaking changes that you think will bring exceptional performance for the 3D apps?