The ATI Radeon 5XXX Thread

[labs23]

Man I'm so excited for these new cards, AMD has been so tight lipped about them. Grr past couple years there would be multiple leaked benchies by now. Makes me wonder what kind of a monster 5870x2 is going to be ...MCM chip maybe.

I'm sure 5870X2 will have a lot of horsepower, but I hope it won't be in MCM.

[Oberon]

It won't be MCM, I'm willing to put money on it. It does ATI no good to develop and produce two separate packages when just placing two of the same package on one PCB is probably more cost effective in the end. Two separate chips is better from a cooling standpoint, too, since you don't have two die in close proximity to one another.

[Luka_Aveiro]

EyeFinity is only useful for 3+ monitors usage, you can already use dual monitors with virtually any discrete GC.

So, who the hell is going to put 3 screens on it's desk to game?

The driving and flight simulator people.

What about the others? They will just stick to one screen as usual, beacause that option gives you less problems and more comfort, and that's what a gamer wants.

It's a nice feature, but it's nothing but that.

[kadozer]

But the real question is how many out there actually have a second monitor that they didn't put to good use yet? IE: No need to actually buy another monitor just use the spare they already have. The steam survey already points out that it's not uncommon that some already use more then one monitor.

Yeah I am one of those gamers. I have a spare ones in the closet that I picked up just for cheap to turn around and sell.

They're really affordable now just look here as an example. Even without the rebate hassles.

[Monkeywoman]

Cryengine 3 on HD5870 http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...-full-HD/News/

[cegras]

The Dell is a 30" H-IPS panel. A typical 26" IPS panel consumes 135W. A typical 20" IPS panel consumes around 80W. You are comparing essentially the a cream of the crop panel that is typically seen in very high end televisions compared to a low end computer display, a panel technology that's so bad nobody would ever consider selling it on the television market.

IPS isn't suitable for gaming, but I am unfamiliar with 30" TN panels. However, stacking three TN panels horizontally presents no problems, as you can simply angle them to get them back to the sweet spot.

http://www.twenga.co.uk/prices-SyncM...nitor-399274-0

I did a brief, cursory search and found a 'suitable' (?) TN panel that would be OK for gaming. Ignoring the fact that apparently higher resolution monitors don't have RTC yet, the nominal power consumption is also 100 W, more than 3 19" chain together which would offer a different (and better, IMO) experience.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Yeah I am one of those gamers. I have a spare ones in the closet that I picked up just for cheap to turn around and sell.

They're really affordable now just look here as an example. Even without the rebate hassles.

Exactly, I know there are others who may fit a similar category.

[Hell Hound]

If the panels are not identical problems will arise,diff input lag and such.Looks like Samsung needs to make them alot thinner before this takes off,I would like to have 3*30 myself.

[GoldenTiger]

IPS isn't suitable for gaming, but I am unfamiliar with 30" TN panels.

Of course they are... 8ms response time or so is fine for games.

[orangekiwii]

not for good gaming

I can't stand 8 ms response time on my mouse

the monitor itself won't have 8ms response it will most likely have much higher... even 2ms tn panels in reality have like 20ms response times

[blindbox]

You mean input lag.

http://www.lesnumeriques.com/duels.p...&p2=3386&ph=12

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1285719 It gets noticeable above 50ms it seems. I'm not too sure.

[RaZz!]

Of course they are... 8ms response time or so is fine for games.

it's not that much about response time, but input lag. usually ips panels have a quite huge input lag, which kills the gaming experience especially in fast paced fps.
however, i've got two panels here: a 19" viewsonic va902 with 8ms and a 22" widescreen lg l227wt with 2ms. the 8ms response time of the viewsonic are completely unacceptable for gaming. when moving the mouse in a fps everything is soo blurred and fuzzy. you can hardly see any details while moving around. for me that's definately a nogo for gaming... a friend of mine has a 24" with 5 ms and even these 5ms look a lot worse than my l227wt with 2ms, else i'd have already swapped my 22" for a 24" display.
i really do think overdrive is doing a damn good job on these 22" 2ms panels. there's definately a huge difference between 2ms panels with good overdrive and ones with more response time.

however, different people have a different perception. so 8ms might be ok for you, but not for others.
i still think the whole tft/lcd market is still in the stone age when it comes to refresh rates, response time, input lag, etc... we definately need a change in this market, the companies are selling monitors with the same specs for a long time already. give us smth really new ffs!
especially monitors with a thin bezel for multi-monitor setups like it's possible with eyefinity now.

[Hornet331]

IPS isn't suitable for gaming....

Obviously you never have played games on one of the latest monitors with H-IPS panels.

The only problem with IPS pannels is the black level, but that can be corrected with polarizers.

[003]

Obviously you never have played games on one of the latest monitors with H-IPS panels.

NEC 2490/2690/3090 owners represent!

EDIT:
And just wanna add, black levels of top quality H-IPS panels are just as good if not better than TN or PVA based panels. You don't actually believe the 20,000:1 contrast ratio advertised on your $200 Samsung LCD, do you? Measure it with a colorimeter and it won't come up any higher than 600:1, tops.

[orangekiwii]

Anyone know what the response time on OLEDs are?

I want a 20" 1080p OLED monitor. Would be perfect for me.

OT: I just wanna see some benches between the 5870x2 vs the g300... whichever is better is what i'm getting (first time in history i'm actually going to get the best card )

[STaRGaZeR]

AMOLED, 1920x1200 or 1920x1080, 20" or 22", 120Hz. Even if it costs 1000€.

[Hornet331]

Why you want a 16:9 monitor?

16:10 already is pushing it height wise.

[saaya]

hahah, just checked the news section and thought hmmmm i cant remember starting thins thread? ^^
good to see all 5000 topics merged ...

[Xope_Poquar]

IPS isn't suitable for gaming,

when moving the mouse in a fps everything is soo blurred and fuzzy. you can hardly see any details while moving around. for me that's definately a nogo for gaming...

I believe that's becoming a popular "feature" in modern games.

[orangekiwii]

because typin 1080p is easier than typing 1920x1200
I could type 1200p but not everyone knows that

I would prefer 16x10 but it doesn't matter, and I personally like widescreen a lot more than 4:3 or 5:4

[T2k]

They offer up to 4 displayes (and that already for severaly years) per card, with the option to use 2 cards in one pc. Making it able to use 8 displays.
All that was already back available in 2007.

WAAAAY before that - I think I have seen their quad cards before I got their pre-release Parhelia for testing (2002 Spring).... anyway Matrox is well-known for the financial world since ages where you have to have multiple monitors.

[metro.cl]

28 pages and no leaked benchs? ohhh what a disapointment :P

Hope this cards are great i'll change to the red side (HD 5850)

[eternal_fantasy]

Wether a monitor is suitable for gaming or not is SUBJECTIVE. It's like me after using SSD saying HDDs are not suitable as OS drive.

inb4 competitive gaming

[Hornet331]

I believe that's becoming a popular "feature" in modern games.

Indeed, crysis has motion blure, tf2 has it, COD4... every game new game basically. Some more then others.

[SubZero.it]

AMOLED, 1920x1200 or 1920x1080, 20" or 22", 120Hz. Even if it costs 1000€.

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