Retail Q9650 Overclocking Thread

[andressergio]

Beat them scores Andressergio, you can do it !! do it for junior

I can do second for SPI for sure but impossible to catch my mate Jor lol his chip is awesome. So far i achieved what i was lookin for and im very happy now i will start using tha beast for normal operations.

Cheers mate
Sergio

[Zucker2k]

Why did you change q9650 to q9550?

I caught the x58 fever and wanted to familiarize myself with the architecture, so I sold my UD3P+Q9650+8GB G.Skill Pis and upgraded without spending a penny more.

This was my result:



But then I started getting withdrawals from moving away from s775 so I decided to build a cheapo rig and satisfy my appetite for overclocking on this platform.

I had the choice of picking another Q9650, but there were many horror stories in this thread about lack-lustre 9650s with 1.300 vids, while the 9550s seem to show relatively better results. I decided to go as cheap as possible while pushing the clocks as much as my air-cooler would allow for 24/7. I still haven't finished putting parts together; I need better ram and psu, but this is what I've done so far. Oh, this chip also happens to be my best s775 chip do date.

Q9550 L844B872
EP45C-UD3R
2x 1GB Mushkin DDR2 1066
Xigmatek HDT S1283 (Stock fan)
Windows 7 x64

8x500 64bit P95 (Single-stock fan)



8x500 Linx 64bit (Stock fan + 93cfm thermaltake fan)



8.5x500 Linx 64bit (Stock fan + 93cfm thermaltake fan)

[OC Nub]

Very nice Zucker.

[Zucker2k]

Very nice Zucker.

Thanks Nub, your own results with your 9550 probably nudged me over the fence to get mine. Best $170 I ever spent.

[Machinus]

Machinus how are you mate, from what i see you have my same vid of chip wich is great CPU Vcore [ 1.1875 ].

try to drop vtt to 1,20 and see that CPU ref is .785 and MCH .80, then up it and this values will change auto, for lots of us this worked perfect so for me tom and zucker2k...

start on a normal OC, like 445x9 ti try your CPU and MEM on 1:1 CL5 all auto, PL9 and trfc 68 (you have 2x2GB ???? wich RAM), try to find FIRST as stable point where you can start upping, dont start messing around with values and changing all at time and multis etc...go step by step or you will go crazy.

Use 800/800/0/50 or 900/900/0/50, i use 1000/1000/0/0 to 4800+ to bench the rest are for my 24/7

i will send you a template of my 445x9 and 500x8 so you have a start point, should work for ya as owr quads are close.

Cheers
Sergio

Ah! I made a mistake I copied the template with the wrong VID! Mine is a terrible 1.3v

I will lower the clock to 900/900/0/50.

Even at 1:1 and higher mch/ref the board doesn't seem to go over 500 despite having temps always 65 and below.

So I should start atvcore 1.3125 and put everything on auto and just try to increase clock with 9x multi? It is very unstable at 9x with 400 and over unfortunately.

I guess I got a bad chip.

Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 8.0 ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ +0.5 ]
CPU Frequency............................[ 475x8.5 ]
 
******Clock Chip Control******
 
CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled  ]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 475 ]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100 ]
C.I.A 2.........................................[ Disabled ]
 
******Advanced Clock Control******
 
CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 1000mv ]
PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 1000mv ]
CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps ]
MCH Clock Skew..................................[ 50ps ]
 
******DRAM Performance Control******
 
Performance Enhance.............................[ Standard ]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P)..................[ Auto ]
(G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ Auto ]
System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.40B ]
Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 1140 ]
DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual ]
 
CAS Latency Time................................[ 5 ]
tRCD............................................[ 5 ]
tRP.............................................[ 5 ]
tRAS............................................[ 15 ]
 
******Motherboard Voltage Control******
 
Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Vcore         [ 1.30 ]...................[ 1.41250
CPU Termination   [ 1.20    ]...................[ 1.380 ]
CPU PLL           [ 1.50    ]...................[ 1.590 ]
CPU Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.914 ] 
 
MCH Core          [ 1.100   ]...................[ 1.300 ] 
MCH Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.954 ]
MCH/DRAM Refernce [ 0.900   ]...................[ 1.200 ]
ICH I/O           [ 1.500   ]...................[ 1.500 ]
ICH Core          [ 1.100   ]...................[ 1.100 ] 
 
DRAM Voltage      [ 1.800   ]...................[ 1.960 ] 
DRAM Termination  [ 0.900   ]...................[ 0.980 ]
Channel A Ref     [ 0.900   ]...................[ Auto ]
Channel B Ref     [ 0.900   ]...................[ Auto ]

[Jor3lBR]

But then I started getting withdrawals from moving away from s775 so I decided to build a cheapo rig and satisfy my appetite for overclocking on this platform.

Q9550 L844B872
EP45C-UD3R
2x 1GB Mushkin DDR2 1066
Xigmatek HDT S1283 (Stock fan)
Windows 7 x64

8x500 64bit P95 (Single-stock fan)

Hey Zuc nice to see you're back in town! Those are amazing results on the Q9550 and what really cough my eyes is the fact that those Q9550 don't give up after 70oC when most of the Q9650 bugs out after 63oC

Might get one of those to play with on the other rig, thanks for sharing.

[thebluemeanie1]

Hey Zuc nice to see you're back in town! Those are amazing results on the Q9550 and what really cough my eyes is the fact that those Q9550 don't give up after 70oC when most of the Q9650 bugs out after 63oC

Might get one of those to play with on the other rig, thanks for sharing.

That wPrime 32M really amazes me, I couldn't even get near your 4.7GHz time when I was using 4.8GHz.

Will your Q9650 bug out on wPrime and other benchmarks or is it just stress tests?

[Jor3lBR]

That wPrime 32M really amazes me, I couldn't even get near your 4.7GHz time when I was using 4.8GHz.

Will your Q9650 bug out on wPrime and other benchmarks or is it just stress tests?

No bugs, never seen anything like that in cpu's only on vid. card benchmarks... Processor speed for 32m is close to 4.9. Processor speed for 1024m is close to 4.87. Did you check ram speed? I almost had it running at 1400Mhz_ddr2 for 1024m.

[Zucker2k]

Hey Zuc nice to see you're back in town! Those are amazing results on the Q9550 and what really cough my eyes is the fact that those Q9550 don't give up after 70oC when most of the Q9650 bugs out after 63oC

Might get one of those to play with on the other rig, thanks for sharing.

Thanks, mate. Yeah, it seems to me that Intel's process is so mature they no longer need to bin for the 9650s; they're merely using dividers to designate different clocks. Awesome indeed.

[OC Nub]

Got the EP45 DQ6 installed, after some head scratching I am running some small fft's at 4500mhz. The dates are screwed up in prime because it fudged up after my last try and 4500 when it bsod'd. The temps seem to be much lower than with before on my other board. Don't know why they would be any lower, same chip.

EDIT: Had to go up a notch on vcore. The board has 2 CPU Ref's and 1 MCH Ref, the values are different and has thrown a curve in my ocing. I left CPU Ref's at default .760 ref1 and .80 ref2 and went up 2 notches on MCH ref, seems to be working so far. I tried to leave at default but failed instantly. The skew doesn't work the same for 4500mhz either as on the UD3P. I went with Napalms 1000/1000/0/0, running blend now, for 4400 it was blending fine at 800/800/0/50.

[grishenko45]

I've finally found a q9650 thread!!! Great!

I've got a water cooled q9650 on a P5Q Deluxe with 1066Mhz DDR2 - im hoping for 4.25Ghz - thats 9*470 - about!

U all recon this is possible? I hope so!!! - Stock speeds - my 9650 idles at 28c and loads after a couple of hours P95 at 38c - so ive plenty of room for a higher Vcore!!!

Any advice??

[Leeghoofd]

Sould be possible mate, start off with 400FSB , get to know ya CPU (what it likes regarding FSB term , PLL volts) , 450 is a no brainer on P45 (normally) and even 500FSB is doable on the P5Q Dlx but be prepared to pump over 1.35FSB term voltages... and you will need to get off the 1:1 Divider ( so good high speed rams are a must )

[rurik]

now I have a new baby! my 9550 E0 FPO L922B951 VID 1.1125V
today finishing testing and results is :


I belive,4Ghz too izzi for this chip, but my mobo is not good for quad 45nm.
465 FSB is good result, and it not a limit,but I dont want raising too much volt fot NB.
BTW, what temp is critical for NB? now I have 64'C at peak load, is this good or not?
Temps for chip is not more,than 79'C at LinX,Prime95 at 65-67

and my rig is:
Intel Core 2 Quad E8550 E0@ 3952 at 1.264V real
Thermalright IFX-14 +NOCTUA NF-P12-1300@
Asus Maximus Formula @ Rampage Formula x38
DDR2 2x2Gb G.Skill F2-8800CL5D-1100@1117
2xClub3D ATI RADEON HD4870 512MB OC Edition 800/950 CROSSFIRE
Raid0 2x320Gb Seagate SATA2 16Mb
320Gb Seagate SATA2 16Mb
DVDRW Samsung 182M LightScribe
PSU 780W Tagan Superrock
Full Tower Thermaltake Xaser VI + 4x120 vent. + Scythe Kama Meter
Windows7 x64 RTM

sorry,wrong thread

[systemviper]

Updated some of my previous scores on HWbot.org:
wPrime32m = 7.612sec
wPrime1024m = 4min 8sec 910ms



Have a $250 4870 X2 2Gb + more SSD's incoming to conquer that last gold cup for PCMark05. As soon as I get this done I'll let you guys know.

WOW, Jor3lBR - every time i see your posts i wish i still had that q9650, maybe i can find a cheap one to beat on, you have been kicking it, rock on

[ViViD]

Hi Guys

I Thinck Problem With That Benchmark 3D Mark 01

Look:



82516 Is Not Low? For 4600Mhz CPU Frq And 1300Mhz Ram???
Any Sugesstion?

[andressergio]

Hi Guys

I Thinck Problem With That Benchmark 3D Mark 01

Look:



82516 Is Not Low? For 4600Mhz CPU Frq And 1300Mhz Ram???
Any Sugesstion?

How are you ViViD i got 87k with the quad at 4500 and the GTX285 at stock clocks mines are 729/1674/2800, didnt tried to OC more cause i have a problem with XP that wont lent me use High CPU OC + High Clocks on VGA, just could do some benches on 3DM06 but on W7 i can do whatever i want.

Cheers
Sergio

[Leeghoofd]

Score is low mate for them clocks, should be more in the 89K region. Tried another driver ? thermal throttling ?

[ViViD]

Score is low mate for them clocks, should be more in the 89K region. Tried another driver ? thermal throttling ?

I'm Use 9.6 Catalyst
And Temp Are Be Fine I Thinck Beacause Use 900/1000 For AquaMark And Got 265K Score

How are you ViViD i got 87k with the quad at 4500 and the GTX285 at stock clocks mines are 729/1674/2800, didnt tried to OC more cause i have a problem with XP that wont lent me use High CPU OC + High Clocks on VGA, just could do some benches on 3DM06 but on W7 i can do whatever i want.

Cheers
Sergio

You Say Win7 Is Better For Me? Any Benching Is Run Well 3D 06 Run And 27K Easy For Me But 01 Is Too Low

[Jor3lBR]

WOW, Jor3lBR - every time i see your posts i wish i still had that q9650, maybe i can find a cheap one to beat on, you have been kicking it, rock on

Thanks Viper!

You should cause you're missing on this thread

[Asylum1]

Got mine over 4.7Ghz with this Gigabyte-EP45C-UD3R

[Leeghoofd]

I'm Use 9.6 Catalyst
And Temp Are Be Fine I Thinck Beacause Use 900/1000 For AquaMark And Got 265K Score

mmm AM3 takes what 10-15 secs ? 01 takes way more time and is far more stresfull... try another driver version...

[nkresho]

Got my chip just now. I'm going to run IBT for a few tests and post back.

The first set of tests will see how far I can push her on stock volts.... 1.15v core (yay!)



Suprisingly enough, it seems as if I have no stuck sensors. I was expecting one at least.

[andressergio]

Got my chip just now. I'm going to run IBT for a few tests and post back.

The first set of tests will see how far I can push her on stock volts.... 1.15v core (yay!)



Suprisingly enough, it seems as if I have no stuck sensors. I was expecting one at least.

that indicates its gonna be a good quad Sergio's Theory ;O)

[andressergio]

I updated yesterday to bew F10f bios...seems that they loose some timmings it left me do this at tigh memory timmings on lower volts, the same on bios F10b (tough it scores more latencie on mem) does not run not even minutes...

x8,5 and x8 + tight mem timmings and speed has been always a no go on my system...yes on 9 multi but this seems good...7+ hours blend all nite



Cheers
Sergio

[nkresho]

Ok, first round of tests are complete.

I am running windows vista x64 until 7 is fully released. This is mainly because I want to be able to play bf2142 on this machine.

I set the voltages to stock in the bios for all values.
For all these tests volts were as follows:


PLL 1.50
CPU term 1.20
CPU ref 0.760
Vcore 1.15000
dram v 2.08
dram term Auto
dram chA Auto
dram chB Auto
MCH v 1.20
MCH dram Auto
MCH ref 0.760
ICH IO 1.50
ICH v 1.10

I ran the standard 5 runs of Intel Burn test v2.3 using "maximum" for the memory setting.
It failed by way of BSOD at 445x9 so I backed it down to a maximum of 439x9 for a speed of 3951mhz.
Here are my runs leading to that maximum.

333x9 for 3000mhz



400x9 for 3600mhz



412x9 for 3700mhz



423x9 for 3800mhz



434x9 for 3900mhz



And finally 439x9 for 3950mhz



I'll go one size up on the pics next time.


Next round of tests will see how low of volts it'll do for 4000mhz-4400mhz.