Forum Vs Naplam - Fasted real world storage solution

[One_Hertz]

Yes, I have a problem, I know - should seek counseling.

I've always wondered why nobody here has got one yet. People have storage setups worth around $2k, but nobody gets it... No need for any RAID overheads, the CPU usage isn't as high and it does 100k IOPs with the lowest access times. I am kind of stupid myself as well as I will have 4 X25-es any day now lol.

[SteveRo]

I've always wondered why nobody here has got one yet. People have storage setups worth around $2k, but nobody gets it... No need for any RAID overheads, the CPU usage isn't as high and it does 100k IOPs with the lowest access times. I am kind of stupid myself as well as I will have 4 X25-es any day now lol.

It doesn't seem like so much when you spread the cost over several months, an SSD here, an SSD there. For me its much harder to pull the trigger on a single $2K item vs lower cost piece by piece over time. It's a nonlogical-psycho problem.

[lowfat]

It doesn't seem like so much when you spread the cost over several months, an SSD here, an SSD there. For me its much harder to pull the trigger on a single $2K item vs lower cost piece by piece over time. It's a nonlogical-psycho problem.

[XS Janus]

After a while human brain will justify anything... That's the beauty of it!

[F.E.A.R.]

@F.E.A.R - why the high 43% CPU usage ? What CPU configuration? Is it the controller, ACARD or the something else?

SteveRO you don't seem to have the same CPU% usage but a similar setup as F.E.A.R ?

I don´t know why.
I think the system is my "problem"!?!?!?
When i take a look in the taskmanager, i can´t find a thread with a high cpu-load.
So it must be the system. (ASUS Striker II Extreme nf790i)

SteveRo use a Core i7-sys with the better bandwidth - i use a QX9650


btw: I´m using the highest stripesize - 128k atm.

[NapalmV5]

For about the same price the original SLC IOdrive would give 80GB of space with roughly the same performance, if not better. Not bootable though.

I've always wondered why nobody here has got one yet. People have storage setups worth around $2k, but nobody gets it... No need for any RAID overheads, the CPU usage isn't as high and it does 100k IOPs with the lowest access times. I am kind of stupid myself as well as I will have 4 X25-es any day now lol.

ive spent $4k on controllers alone over the last 2-3 years.. and instead of dealing with diff controllers/x # of drives.. id rather have 1x iodrive but its not bootable.. ahhh!

just what is it gonna take for them to make it bootable..

[NapalmV5]

Hey Napalm, any chance you could run the same test with the original 512mb memory on your controller if you still got it. Curious how much of a difference, if any cache, memory gives for read access like boot times and app. load.

all vidz were done @ 512mb cache

[NapalmV5]

@ Napalm

This is my next project (in my dreams *lol*)

theres no sata3 drives/sata3 controllers

where are the sas2 ssds ??

as for firmware 1.47 vs 1.46.. yeh on xp 1.47 is slower but i got slower ssd firmware aswell.. im gonna flash back the ssd firmware and then ill see better how 1.47 vs 1.46 compares

im sick and tired of these jmicrons.. but im still waiting on x25e g2 how much longer..

[lowfat]

just what is it gonna take for them to make it bootable..

my guess is never.

Hell I wouldn't even mind throwing Windows on an X25-M and the rest of an ioxtreme. But I don't think they are even out yet.

[NapalmV5]

why never.. theyd sell more if bootable.. no ?

or they want to keep it for the elites only.. is that the point ?

[lowfat]

why never.. theyd sell more if bootable.. no ?

or they want to keep it for the elites only.. is that the point ?

I think it has to do the w/ the way the writes are cached to the ram. Its similar to why MFT can't be booted from. This is what I've gathered anyways. They have said since its release (damn near two years ago?) that it would be bootable soon. Which is why I think it will never come.

[F.E.A.R.]

ive spent $4k on controllers alone over the last 2-3 years.. and instead of dealing with diff controllers/x # of drives.. id rather have 1x iodrive but its not bootable.. ahhh!

just what is it gonna take for them to make it bootable..

http://www.dvnation.com/Fusion-IO-IO...Review-p5.html

The other disadvantage is that the ioDrive is not yet bootable. This feature is coming though in the form of a simple firmware update in Q4 2008.

where are the sas2 ssds ??

Voilà

SAS 2 or Fibre Channel up to 350MB/s. and 800GB - what you want.
But i hope you moneybag is big enough

30X 15K HDDs vs. 1x ZeusIOPS http://www.stec-inc.com/ssd/videos/ssdvideo2.php so many IOps

[AceNZ]

So, if you were building a high-end system today, what would it look like in terms of number and type of drives, controller with cache, I/O bus, etc? Would you stay with the 1231ML and PCIe 1.1, or move to something like the LSI 9260-8i on PCIe 2.0?

Also, given a fixed budget for the project, would you use any X25-E drives (if so, where/for what?), or just stripe more X25-Ms together?

[lowfat]

http://www.dvnation.com/Fusion-IO-IO...Review-p5.html

Exactly. It was suppose to be bootable LAST YEAR

Voilà

SAS 2 or Fibre Channel up to 350MB/s. and 800GB - what you want.
But i hope you moneybag is big enough

30X 15K HDDs vs. 1x ZeusIOPS http://www.stec-inc.com/ssd/videos/ssdvideo2.php

Not out till Q4 and doesn't even list a price.

[F.E.A.R.]

I don´t know the price of ZEUS IOPS, but i know STEC is very expensive

Can anyone ask for the price of Zeus IOps?

(949) 260-8345 - California

[Nizzen]

I don´t know the price of ZEUS IOPS, but i know STEC is very expensive

Can anyone ask for the price of Zeus IOps?

(949) 260-8345 - California

The people who buy STEC products does not ask for price, they just buy it

[NapalmV5]

http://www.dvnation.com/Fusion-IO-IO...Review-p5.html





Voilà

SAS 2 or Fibre Channel up to 350MB/s. and 800GB - what you want.
But i hope you moneybag is big enough

30X 15K HDDs vs. 1x ZeusIOPS http://www.stec-inc.com/ssd/videos/ssdvideo2.php so many IOps

lol sas2 ssd must cost double that of their sas ssd

2x/4x of that @ areca 1800 of baby!! the cost of the controller is pocket change..

[NapalmV5]

So, if you were building a high-end system today, what would it look like in terms of number and type of drives, controller with cache, I/O bus, etc? Would you stay with the 1231ML and PCIe 1.1, or move to something like the LSI 9260-8i on PCIe 2.0?

Also, given a fixed budget for the project, would you use any X25-E drives (if so, where/for what?), or just stripe more X25-Ms together?

1231/4x x25e

still no controller like it

[AceNZ]

1231/4x x25e

still no controller like it

Can you say more? What differentiates the 1231? Why would you prefer something like two X25-E drives instead of eight X25-M (based on their relative price)? How much controller memory?

I'm not disagreeing, and I realize that benchmarks don't tell the whole story, but Tom's Hardware claims they can get 1.7 GB/s throughput from the LSI 9260-8i, using 8 drives in a PCIe 2.0 x8 slot in RAID 0 (212 MB/s per drive) -- that's well above Areca's published results of 825 MB/s for 5 drives (165 MB/s per drive).

Is it the small block random I/O throughput that's the differentiating issue?

Would your choice be different if you were using RAID 5 or 6?

[F.E.A.R.]

I think, i have the price for one STEC Zeus IOps - US-$7500 for 30GB ! ! !
You can find it in the video...

[XS Janus]

wrong thread FEAR?
Post it again in Pliant thread

[NapalmV5]

Can you say more? What differentiates the 1231? Why would you prefer something like two X25-E drives instead of eight X25-M (based on their relative price)? How much controller memory?

I'm not disagreeing, and I realize that benchmarks don't tell the whole story, but Tom's Hardware claims they can get 1.7 GB/s throughput from the LSI 9260-8i, using 8 drives in a PCIe 2.0 x8 slot in RAID 0 (212 MB/s per drive) -- that's well above Areca's published results of 825 MB/s for 5 drives (165 MB/s per drive).

Is it the small block random I/O throughput that's the differentiating issue?

Would your choice be different if you were using RAID 5 or 6?

lol say more??

the best ssd support for the last ~2 years.. low access/latency/cpu usage.. native sataII.. high performance small block

why go 8x mlc when 4x slc decimates the world ??

get 8x x25m + 4x x25e and see for yourself

the fewer the ssds the better the controller handles/controls.. the lower the cpu load

since 4x is enough to saturate the controller 4x is the max i go on the 1231

512mb cache is enough for most tasks.. but youd have to try 256/512/1024/2048 to see which fits better your workload/apps

some lunatics say the highest bandwidth/throughput the highest performance

some lunatics say the highest iops the highest performance

me?.. iops/bandwidth/access/latency/cpu usage/ssd support/everything about the controller is equally important

thats why 1231 fits my needs/wants perfectly

thats why ive said time and time again.. 1231 is king of controllers

[F.E.A.R.]

@ XS Janus

No
See post # 312 (answer to Napalm)


@ Napalm

You mean 1231/1261/1280ML

[NapalmV5]

indeed

[XS Janus]