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[lowfat]

Is it possible to incorporate a software timer into the 40app test? I find it extremely difficult to know exactly when to stop the stopwatch.

record a video of it

That is what I did. That way I can see exactly when it starts/stops.

[One_Hertz]

record a video of it

That is what I did. That way I can see exactly when it starts/stops.

You don't really see when it is done processing everything. You might see when all the processes appear, but it won't necessarily be really done launching everything.

[yngndrw]

Time your HDD access LED ?

[XS Janus]

Maybe someone could incorporate this app .bat file into a .vbs file that was posted before in this thread, that times boot time!

this was the reboot timer.vbs posted earlier:

Option Explicit
On Error Resume Next
Dim Wsh, Time1, Time2, Result, PathFile, MsgResult, MsgA, AppName, KeyA, KeyB, TimeDiff
MsgA = "Please close all running applications and click on OK."
KeyA = "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RestartTime\"
KeyB = "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ Curr entVersion\Run\RestartTime"
AppName = "ReBoot-Time"
Set Wsh = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
PathFile = """" & WScript.ScriptFullName & """"
Result = wsh.RegRead(KeyA & "Times")
if Result = "" then
MsgResult = Msgbox (MsgA, vbOKCancel, AppName)
If MsgResult = vbcancel then WScript.Quit
Wsh.RegWrite KeyA & "Times", left(Time,8), "REG_SZ"
Wsh.RegWrite KeyB, PathFile, "REG_SZ"
Wsh.Run "cmd /c Shutdown -r -t 00", false, 0
else
Wsh.RegDelete KeyA & "Times"
Wsh.RegDelete KeyA
Wsh.RegDelete KeyB
TimeDiff = DateDiff("s",Result,left(Time,8))
MsgBox "Your computer reboots in " & TimeDiff & " seconds", VbInformation, AppName
end if
wscript.Quit

[F.E.A.R.]

Look at this crazy CPU-Load. Is my system (ASUS Striker II Extreme + QX9650 @ 4000MHz) to slow?
I think the system-bus is too weak!?!?!?

Can anyone reconstruct these 2 benches (important because cpu-load - not the IOps)?


4k - 100% Random - 100% Write - 64 outstanding IOs




Workstation - 64 outstanding IOs

[Computurd]

LSI-9260-81 and eight 30 GB vertex RAID 0

[smallfish]

SteveRo, your results are just retardedly fast compared to what's in the average user's machine :P

I'm wondering how much it costs to get that performance though, care to share the final price?

ye, i agree

[F.E.A.R.]

@ Computurd

More benches please. (like post #280 and FC-Test with all 5 patterns - create, read, copy)
E.g. the 40-app-loadup

[XS Janus]

Yes, please Computrd, do some more real word tests, mentioned in this thread. woot!
And please post the access time bench, you already posted on H.
Thanks!

[Computurd]

oksy here are a few real world test...
Bootup:



4K one hundred percent random....


what is the 40 app test exactly?.

[Biker]

LOL.

Computurd your array is in need of a holiday

How many benches have you run these last few weeks?

Great results though

[SteveRo]

Originally Posted by antiacid
SteveRo, your results are just retardedly fast compared to what's in the average user's machine :P

I'm wondering how much it costs to get that performance though, care to share the final price?

ye, i agree

antiacid and smallfish,

The 1231ML is usually around $7-800.
Sometimes you can get the controller for less if you get it with less or no cache and then buy the 2GB cache seperate.
Better solutions are coming - currently LSI looks promising

The memory I am using is - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227291

The acard 9010s - the best price currently is $360.
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch...iteria=AA74660
I think I paid more than that for mine.

So adding it up -
1231ML-2G - $700.
3xacard 9010s - $1080
Completely populated 3xacards with 2GB sticks (48GB unformatted total) - $720
Total - $2500.

The main problem of course is 48GB requires some creativity is storage management!
Going 4GB sticks is an option but a factor of 2+ more expensive than 2GB sticks.

[tiro_uspsss]

The 1231ML is usually around $7-800.
Sometimes you can get the controller for less if you get it with less or no cache and then buy the 2GB cache seperate.
Better solutions are coming - currently LSI looks promising

The memory I am using is - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227291

The acard 9010s - the best price currently is $360.
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch...iteria=AA74660
I think I paid more than that for mine.

So adding it up -
1231ML-2G - $700.
3xacard 9010s - $1080
Completely populated 3xacards with 2GB sticks (48GB unformatted total) - $720
Total - $2500.

The main problem of course is 48GB requires some creativity is storage management!
Going 4GB sticks is an option but a factor a of 2+ more expensive than 2GB sticks.

do u have any bit errors(?) since ur not using ECC RAM?

[SteveRo]

do u have any bit errors(?) since ur not using ECC RAM?

Not that I can tell, the 9010 takes some of the memory and applies ECC itself.
From the acard site -

Q2-3. I install eight memory modules of 2GB capacity to my ANS-9010. It is 16GB in total. Can I backup the RAM disk with a CF of 16GB capacity?
A2-3: Yes and No. It depends on whether the memory modules support ECC or not. Most of the memory modules for sale do not support ECC. In such case, ANS-9010/9010B will detect it, and automatically enable build-in ECC-Emulation function to protect data as server-level memory modules do. ECC-Emulation function reserves RAM disk space, as much as 1/9 of the totally capacity, to implement such activity. Therefore, the volume of the disk space needed to be backup is less than the capacity of a 16GB CF. If the memory modules that applied in ANS-9010 support ECC, the build-in ECC-Emulation function would be disable. Thus, the
volume of the disk space needed to be backup would be larger than capacity of a 16GB CF. In such case, it is recommend to use CF that larger than 16GB to backup such RAM disk. Please refer to Appendix A for the detail of calculating on media capacity.

[tiro_uspsss]

Not that I can tell, the 9010 takes some of the memory and applies ECC itself.
From the acard site -

Q2-3. I install eight memory modules of 2GB capacity to my ANS-9010. It is 16GB in total. Can I backup the RAM disk with a CF of 16GB capacity?
A2-3: Yes and No. It depends on whether the memory modules support ECC or not. Most of the memory modules for sale do not support ECC. In such case, ANS-9010/9010B will detect it, and automatically enable build-in ECC-Emulation function to protect data as server-level memory modules do. ECC-Emulation function reserves RAM disk space, as much as 1/9 of the totally capacity, to implement such activity. Therefore, the volume of the disk space needed to be backup is less than the capacity of a 16GB CF. If the memory modules that applied in ANS-9010 support ECC, the build-in ECC-Emulation function would be disable. Thus, the
volume of the disk space needed to be backup would be larger than capacity of a 16GB CF. In such case, it is recommend to use CF that larger than 16GB to backup such RAM disk. Please refer to Appendix A for the detail of calculating on media capacity.

mmm.. interesting.. now if I only had the $$$

[F.E.A.R.]

4K one hundred percent random....


what is the 40 app test exactly?.

That´s me...

4k - 100% Random - 100% Write




@ tiro_uspsss

You can buy normal modules and use ECC-Simulation with the Acard. You loose 1/9 of capacity

[SteveRo]

Originally Posted by antiacid
SteveRo, your results are just retardedly fast compared to what's in the average user's machine :P

I'm wondering how much it costs to get that performance though, care to share the final price?



antiacid and smallfish,

The 1231ML is usually around $7-800.
Sometimes you can get the controller for less if you get it with less or no cache and then buy the 2GB cache seperate.
Better solutions are coming - currently LSI looks promising

The memory I am using is - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227291

The acard 9010s - the best price currently is $360.
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch...iteria=AA74660
I think I paid more than that for mine.

So adding it up -
1231ML-2G - $700.
3xacard 9010s - $1080
Completely populated 3xacards with 2GB sticks (48GB unformatted total) - $720
Total - $2500.

The main problem of course is 48GB requires some creativity is storage management!
Going 4GB sticks is an option but a factor of 2+ more expensive than 2GB sticks.

The compact flash that I am using in the acards for back up, (they seem to work fine) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820183224

I backed up W7 to the CFs, removed the CFs, restored vista to the acards then deleted the partition. Powered everything down, reinserted the CFs, restarted and booted into W7 from the acards - backup/restore from CFs seems to work pretty good - however, this was just one test.

[SteveRo]

That´s me...

4k - 100% Random - 100% Write

If you can tolerate the very small drive size, its hard to beat acard 9010s (in random read or writes) when attached to a good controller(s).
Below is soft raid of 3 acards (6xR0), 3 on ich10r, 3 on 1231ML-2G, 4K random writes - ~81,400 @ ~318MBps.

Original post at - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=230631

[F.E.A.R.]

@ Computurd + SteveRo

How many "workers" and "# of outstanding IOs" do you use with IOmeter?

[SteveRo]

@ Computurd + SteveRo

How many "workers" and "# of outstanding IOs" do you use with IOmeter?

good morning FEAR, I think all of my iometer runs are 1 worker and I think 1 outstanding IO, whatever the default is.

If outstanding IO = queue depth then I use 64 for seq and random runs (4MB for seq read and write, 4KB for random read and write).
Then for a workstation pattern I use 64KB 80% read, 20% write, 100% random, queue depth of 4, 16, 64, 256.

[Computurd]

64 outstanding I/O, I have been using the I/o Meter profiles from OCZ, bootup especailly, and of course 4k

[NeedMoMegaHurtZ]

@F.E.A.R - why the high 43% CPU usage ? What CPU configuration? Is it the controller, ACARD or the something else?

SteveRO you don't seem to have the same CPU% usage but a similar setup as F.E.A.R ?

[One_Hertz]

So adding it up -
1231ML-2G - $700.
3xacard 9010s - $1080
Completely populated 3xacards with 2GB sticks (48GB unformatted total) - $720
Total - $2500.

For about the same price the original SLC IOdrive would give 80GB of space with roughly the same performance, if not better. Not bootable though.

[SteveRo]

@F.E.A.R - why the high 43% CPU usage ? What CPU configuration? Is it the controller, ACARD or the something else?

SteveRO you don't seem to have the same CPU% usage but a similar setup as F.E.A.R ?

I nominally use 64k stripe size with the 1231ML, this gives iometer of 11% cpu usage for 48K iops - 4k random writes with cpu set to 4.48Ghz, ht off.

When I soft raided the 1231ML with ich10r (3 acard arrays on each) - I was getting huge iometer numbers- 95K iops - 4k random reads resulted in 60% cpu usage with cpu set to 4.48Ghz, ht off.

You can also get high CPU usage if you set 1231ML stripe sizes really small (maybe large strip size also).

[SteveRo]

For about the same price the original SLC IOdrive would give 80GB of space with roughly the same performance, if not better. Not bootable though.

Yes, I have a problem, I know - should seek counseling.