Retail Q9650 Overclocking Thread

[NapalmV5]

what q9650 @ 4.6ghz/ep45-extreme can do @ real apps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvBKB2NndbI

the same all air cooled q9650/ep45-extreme ive posted results here earlier

[OC Nub]

Passed blend, happy not to have to run 1:1 anymore.

[nkresho]

^ congratulations. My new memory comes monday, I can't wait.

[nkresho]

what q9650 @ 4.6ghz/ep45-extreme can do @ real apps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvBKB2NndbI

the same all air cooled q9650/ep45-extreme ive posted results here earlier

Very impressive show of power.

[NapalmV5]

thanks q9650+ep45: very capable platform

[andressergio]

Testing the GSkill F2-9600CL5D-4gbpi.

Congrats Tom really impressed by the benches i have the same rig same mems, same cpu, same mobo all water cooled and different OS, just W7 x64 7600 and cant score like that...also my timmings are tighter still cant by equal

Cheers mate
Sergio

[OC Nub]

Thank you Sergio.

Napalm: That is insane. Very nice

[andressergio]

thanks q9650+ep45: very capable platform

napalm thats ...no words...just awesome

[Triton]

what q9650 @ 4.6ghz/ep45-extreme can do @ real apps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvBKB2NndbI

the same all air cooled q9650/ep45-extreme ive posted results here earlier

Logitech saw this and are now working on a faster mouse the only bottleneck still existing

[OC Nub]

^ congratulations. My new memory comes monday, I can't wait.

Thank you.
You order the 9600 GSkills?
Marcio: I am not sure why the numbers are lower there either. If I get time I will test at 4200mhz this weekend. This is another test I ran, similar results as before.

[NapalmV5]

ocnub - keep it up ^

Napalm: That is insane. Very nice

napalm thats ...no words...just awesome

Logitech saw this and are now working on a faster mouse the only bottleneck still existing

thanks guys

faster mouse but the human element also needs upgrades.. look at my clicking.. brain/eyes/fingers/mouse/mouse pointer.. i need faster communication between all these

[sean222]

Amazing job OC Nub and andressergio...I have no idea how you're getting 4.5GHz...amazing. Could you two please post your BIOS settings? Mainly the voltage and mem settings.

[nkresho]

Thank you.
You order the 9600 GSkills?

Nope, the ocz blade 9200s. I couldn't stomach the $159 price for the tridents or the pi. Thes were $85 with free shipping. Every single review I've read says they will do 1200. We'll see.

[andressergio]

Amazing job OC Nub and andressergio...I have no idea how you're getting 4.5GHz...amazing. Could you two please post your BIOS settings? Mainly the voltage and mem settings.

thank you mate ! will prepare a template and post

cheers

[OC Nub]

Amazing job OC Nub and andressergio...I have no idea how you're getting 4.5GHz...amazing. Could you two please post your BIOS settings? Mainly the voltage and mem settings.

Thank you sean. I believe Sergio and I are running the same template.

[OC Nub]

Nope, the ocz blade 9200s. I couldn't stomach the $159 price for the tridents or the pi. Thes were $85 with free shipping. Every single review I've read says they will do 1200. We'll see.

I was able to do 1200 with that set but had to use the 4:5 divider which limited me to 480fsb. Still a great kit especially for that price. I hate paying 150.00 for ddr2 also.

[WaterFlex]

Very nice chips, guys

[OC Nub]

Very nice chips, guys

Thank you.

Testing HyperPi with tighter timings.

[sean222]

thank you mate ! will prepare a template and post

cheers

Thanks andressergio, looking forward to it

Thank you.

Testing HyperPi with tighter timings.

So OC Nub, this screenshot you posted, those voltage settings are what you used for 4.5GHz right? (and probably the same settings andressergio is using...) If so, I tried those...

No matter what combination of random settings I try...load temps stay under 75, ram is 1:1, small FFT 4th core ALWAYS FAILS INSTANTLY. I'm starting to think THIS chip of mine is just limited to 4.25

I think my ram is good, ...ram or ram timings can't make small FFT fail instantly can it?

Thanks for the help guys

[Linuxfan]

seam22: on H20 you should be able to get an Q9650 to 4.5ghz easily...
Try running the CPU Vcore at 1.5v and the MCH at 1.46v, it should run just fine, leave the rest on auto. Thats quite a lot of voltage, but to see if you chip can "do it" you could try that.

[andressergio]

Sean this template is what Tom and are are using for 4500/1200 stable keep in mind that mems are the PC29600 PI and this is using tight timmmings, you can change just PL8 and tRFC 50 and leave the rest AUTO if you want and use standard not turbo.

Hope you make it mate

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Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Turbo    ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 9        ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.0    ]
CPU Frequency 4.5GHz............................[ 500 x 9.0]
 
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Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 1200     ]
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tWTR[4].........................................[ 3       ]
tWR[13].........................................[ 4       ]
tRFC[68] .......................................[ 50      ] 
tRTP[4].........................................[ 3       ]
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Drive Strength Profile..........................[ Auto    ]
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cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
 
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
 
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tRD Phase1 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
 
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 8 ] ................[ 8       ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank)   [ 8 ] ................[ 7       ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 7 ] ................[ 8       ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 9 ] ................[ 8       ]
 
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Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto    ]
 
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Drive Strength Profile..........................[ Auto    ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
 
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
 
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CPU Vcore         [ 1.1875  ]...................[ 1.4250  ]
CPU Termination   [ 1.20    ]...................[ 1.360   ]
CPU PLL           [ 1.50    ]...................[ 1.570   ]
CPU Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.886   ] 
 
MCH Core          [ 1.100   ]...................[ 1.460   ] 
MCH Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.901   ]
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ICH I/O           [ 1.500   ]...................[ 1.500   ]
ICH Core          [ 1.100   ]...................[ 1.200   ] 
 
DRAM Voltage      [ 1.800   ]...................[ 2.200   ] 
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Channel B Ref     [ 0.900   ]...................[ Auto    ]

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Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]

Best of the lucks
Sergio

[OC Nub]

Thanks andressergio, looking forward to it



So OC Nub, this screenshot you posted, those voltage settings are what you used for 4.5GHz right? (and probably the same settings andressergio is using...) If so, I tried those...

No matter what combination of random settings I try...load temps stay under 75, ram is 1:1, small FFT 4th core ALWAYS FAILS INSTANTLY. I'm starting to think THIS chip of mine is just limited to 4.25

I think my ram is good, ...ram or ram timings can't make small FFT fail instantly can it?

Thanks for the help guys

If your ram wont do 1200mhz, try Sergio's template using MCH Frequency Latch~Auto, 200D, trfc 55 other sub timings auto, pl9 turbo or standard. If it fails you may need more vcore or an adjustment in the ref's up or down a notch.

[thebluemeanie1]

Try using both clock drives at 1000mV and setting both clock skews to 0. My board won't do much if the clock skews are set above 0.

[nkresho]

Thanks for the template. That was extremely helpful.

Although my chip (1.25 VID) doesn't want to do 4500 with the template, I did squeeze a 4300 out last night 10 hours small fft. I dropped mch down to 1.4 and ran vcore at 1.425. Now I'm trying to lower vcore to get it under 1.392 loaded.

I will butt heads with this chip until it does 4500, i'm determined.

[sean222]

seam22: on H20 you should be able to get an Q9650 to 4.5ghz easily...
Try running the CPU Vcore at 1.5v and the MCH at 1.46v, it should run just fine, leave the rest on auto. Thats quite a lot of voltage, but to see if you chip can "do it" you could try that.

I tried pumping up the voltages, no luck, 4th core still failed small FFT instantly.

Sean this template is what Tom and are are using for 4500/1200 stable keep in mind that mems are the PC29600 PI and this is using tight timmmings, you can change just PL8 and tRFC 50 and leave the rest AUTO if you want and use standard not turbo.

Hope you make it mate

Best of the lucks
Sergio

Thanks alot Sergio, I'm sure others will appreciate your template too
Unfortunately, no luck for me. The 4th core kept failing Ram is good. Tried more vcore and adjusted the ref values 1 or 2 notches, still no luck.

If your ram wont do 1200mhz, try Sergio's template using MCH Frequency Latch~Auto, 200D, trfc 55 other sub timings auto, pl9 turbo or standard. If it fails you may need more vcore or an adjustment in the ref's up or down a notch.

Thanks OC Nub...I did run my mem at slower speed and loose timings when I tried out Sergio's template above.

Try using both clock drives at 1000mV and setting both clock skews to 0. My board won't do much if the clock skews are set above 0.

Thanks. Tried this, no luck though, didn't make a difference in terms of stability.

Thanks for the template. That was extremely helpful.

Although my chip (1.25 VID) doesn't want to do 4500 with the template, I did squeeze a 4300 out last night 10 hours small fft. I dropped mch down to 1.4 and ran vcore at 1.425. Now I'm trying to lower vcore to get it under 1.392 loaded.

I will butt heads with this chip until it does 4500, i'm determined.

Conclusion:

Well, thanks everyone, I really appreciate all your suggestions...but I've been overclocking long enough to know that my chip is just limited to around 4.25GHz I've spent like 22hrs straight trying endless combinations of ref values and overvolting everything...no dice though

Also, the fact that my GTX 295 block is in the same loop as my Q9650 doesn't help my temps at all...as you all know, the GTX 295 generates a crapload of heat

My plan is to stick with 4.25GHz and tweak my ram as much as possible.

Really wish I had another chip to test.

One day when I get time I'll take the 295GTX out of the loop to see what happens. For now though, I'll just settle on 4.25, I've wasted way too much time for no real world gains...which is ok...cause this is one of my hobbies