ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[Blue Storm]

Check in BIOS if on board audio is enabled.

yes...in BIOS it's enabled, but it behaves as if it were not involved

Have you connected it to the right port ? Because if not, it doesn't work at all
Look at the attached image.

yes, I have put it there

Did you remember to install the drivers?

drivers can't be installed, because system can't find sound card

[humeyboy]

Have you connected it to the right port ? Because if not, it doesn't work at all
Look at the attached image.

It works in any PCI-E Slot BTW.

[koksy]

drivers can't be installed, because system can't find sound card

Usually it's the other way around. You have to install the drivers before the system can see it.

[WhiteFireDragon]

It works in any PCI-E Slot BTW.

no, the sound card that came with the board ONLY works in the first black slot. i've tried it in the other pci-e slots and it doesn't work.

[eSp!s0]

Usually it's the other way around. You have to install the drivers before the system can see it.

No, usually, the OS recognizes an audio device(uninstalled) and then you can install the drivers.

[kio]

Hi

Try to do my best with this Mobo

Limited by bad Ram
Try to do more next time

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=633045

[seban]

Hi guys,

Long time no see in this thread. I came by to say hello and also to answer a question asked long time ago here by someone - unfortunately i cannot remember who was asking .

Anyway. My q9550 running 4ghz and 24h prime blend stable / 20 passes linx / memtest 12h+ stable was resetting itself during idle - preferable when I was not in the room (little bastard - someone here had same problem - full stable according too all tests but resetting during idle.

In my case it was faulty OCZ 800w EliteXtreme PSU. It died about month ago (it was 8month old as whole rig). Because it was second from two products altogether from OCZ which was faulty which gives 100% of faulty items form OCZ for me - I decided never again to buy anything from them (ofc there was no problem with warranty in any case - and the company was very nice and helpful in both cases).

Coming back to subject I bought Corsair HX 850w and besides much less clutter in pc case due to modular design - guess what - during last month absolutely 0 restarts. So happy and I feel really satisfied that I did not lower my OC when restart was ocuring.

I did not lower it because what is the point of changing anything if anyway all tools to test stability says that sys is stable - so what could I achieve by changing OC settings.

In the end it was PSU. Beware of hmm high-end PSUs ... such a shame

Gl with OCing ppl

PS> Are there any dedicated drivers for our Mobo for WIN 7 no matter if they come directly from Intel or anyone else? I cannot find any? Anyone had more luck?

Thanks

[humeyboy]

I'm sick of this Mobo, will post full details when I am in the mood and not lazy.

Would seem all Asus Rog's are buggy as I have had a few Rog models, the lower models get better support.

[In-Fluence]

Spent some time today on a borrowed E8500 to see if the board was limiting me in any way. As you can see below, it isn't!



I did have a good stab at trying to break 10 seconds 1M PI, but it couldn't quite do as well as my P5B which beat it by around .4 seconds. I think the CPU is limited to around 4.3GHz before silly voltages are required to push it further. I didn't tune any GTLs or skews either which could have helped more but I didn't want to waste lots of time on this. It was just nice to see 600+FSB.. I could even memtest at 630FSB but booting was gonna take a lot more tweaking.

So I've decided to go the same route as Seban and get me one of those lovely HX850's as soon as I have the money. This is now the only reason I can think of as to why I can't get the same point of stability as I did with my P5B - failing that, I think I might just stick with 3.6 and some nice low voltages.

p.s. great work woth your E8500 Kio, I bet your FSB could fly pretty high with that too!

[humeyboy]

Dual are easy on this Mobo its not so easy with Quads.

[In-Fluence]

You don't say? I do agree though - my quad seems 10x harder to tune and it's taken much much longer to get stable at any comparable overclock than on my P5B. That also had nothing like GTLs, Skews and PL settings which is what makes me think PSU unless there was a lot more going on 'under the hood' . I'm well in need of a new upgrade anyway (probably about 2 years overdue) and Corsair's HX850 seems like the perfect candidate.

[humeyboy]

A older 65nm Quad will be even harder but your lucky you have a newer A3.

I seen a review with 3GHZ & 500FSB on a Q6600 (No GTL Tweaks), makes me wonder if them 1st Mobos for review were golden chips same as that MSI 780 we seen at launch doing just under 700FSB with a Dual core and peeps were lucky to get 500FSB.

Can you post with your Memory above 1175MHZ (I mean even get out of Bios Screen) ?

That's some nice hardware you have but that old 65nm Quad CPU is the weak link (never did like them), would love to see a 45nm Quad on a A3.

[In-Fluence]

Yeh, my Q6600 is an '08 batch (L846A659), it seems the FSB is limited to around 475, around 476-499 is a 'dead zone' which wont post at all, and 500-515 only gives 2 cores. I also need to do normal/400 CPU/NB skew settings to get stable above 450, or post above 460. Setting the skews higher /further apart does let me get to around 475 but it's in no way stable 465 is the FSB I'm working on now, then I can hopefully jump up to 8x multi.

CPU GTLs are the settings I'm having the most trouble with (and would ask for any further advice if you have it). I've been through several different written pages worth of tests at different FSBs, VTTs, dividers and none of the values stand out that much, at least not like the skews did. From what I've read on this thread, GTLs have made a big difference for a lot of users, but that doesn't seem like the case for me. Each time I've tested them, then re-tested them at the same settings, they gave different periods of stability varying between 3 & 15 minutes! Rounding errors are still hard for me to provoke, but do occasionally pop up too (on high FFTs). This is where I'm most frustrated right now because there are soooo many combinations for the GTLs, and I get to a point where I think 'that's it' then it all goes out of the window after another failure or when I decide to try a different VTT. My last resort is to try some weirder settings like +40,+40,auto,auto. Perhaps this might do something...

Memory is happy to run at ~1233MHz on almost any divider (haven't tried them all) and the 1:1 ratio gave really nice results which could probably have been tightened a little more. The board behaved really nicely with the dually in there 'as I would expect it to', but never thought a 65nm Quad would play this much havoc with general stability. Memory runs a lot better on this than in the P5B which was the one factor that made me keep hold of it, although raw power is really what I'm after.

A couple more questions too if anyone could help out a little here:

1. To determine different instabilities in the form of rounding errors, hangs and reboots - would anyone say the severity of these are as listed? (rounding errors being most stable, and reboots being the least)

2. I've read about people pumping VTT higher than their Vcore in order to get stable on 65nm quads (as high as 1.6v!) I've had a little more success with this too but am VERY dubious and havent gone over 1.48v so far. I only needed 1.2 on the P5B (but running 410x9), do you think I should aim for above 1.3v or try to stay lower? I would like to stick around 465x8 for the bandwidth.

[humeyboy]

Try NB GTL's, made major difference from me but same as you above 475MHZ it works 1 reboot and will not next reboot.

Even had 500FSB benching but not for long as it freezes, I blame Bios and lack of Memory support as Corsair ain't even on the list.

Skews did nothing for me, but I cannot boot with a negative NB GTL but can at Auto or Positive.

Currently I am @ +40 NB for 475FSB and CPU GTL's are +20/+40/+20/+40, Tried to leave the 20's at Auto and also tried all Negatives but not sure what's best as of above info. because its simply random each reboot.

It makes no difference if I use 1 Module or all 4 Modules or even my older Corsair Modules, still hard to get over 475FSB and 1175MHZ seems limit though my Ram can do more.

My advise would be to sell of some of the non needed kit and buy a Q9650 and see how far it can go on an A3 after all that's what the Gigabytes are.

[seban]

post your template. But it is true that this MB starts to be really tricky over 470mhz.

[humeyboy]

Back at Auto/+40/Auto/+40 for now which means the Cores are not equal in the Priming and the longer they run the further apart they get, +20/+40/+20/+40 seems to fix this.

Currently (ongoing) ran a 13 hour Blend and now just about to complete a 2 hour Small and about to start a 2 hour Large, all stable with fans all at 50%.

Still a waste of time as next time I reboot it can all change.

I'm beginning to think my LLC is crap, on the NF780I it was solid but on this Mobo 1.2VCORE drops to 1.168v with it enabled but this stable run its at 1.192v (I have lowered Multi so that's not so important as I am testing FSB not overall MHZ).

NB and VTT Voltages also more solid this time around.

[In-Fluence]

I noticed how each cores testing times seemed to gradually move further apart at different settings, though I inititally thought it was down to background processes taking little bits here & there from each core - interesting. There is also talk about seeing CPU usage dip in task manager if GTLs aren't correctly tuned when on low speed update setting, but I haven't noticed it on that, (or with normal/high speed update), and speedfan doesn't do it either (even though that seems more responsive than task manager).

So far all on auto or +10 gave the most stability when testing at 466x7 which resulted in around 20 mins stability last night, but I woke up this morning and tested the same config and only got 3 minutes - FFS!!!

So, I've decided to keep the CPU GTLs on auto and back down to ~410, I really can't be arsed tuning for the sake of memory performance. Failing that, I have my 400x9@1200 stable profile, although heading even 1MHz upward of this gave me issues. I think 45nm will be the ideal solution, but PSU has priority for now, and hope to possibly have one by next week. After selling my old one along with a handful of other bits, I may be able to stretch to a 9650 in September.

[humeyboy]

Yes obviously in Windows esp Vista with a lot of installed things running the Cores will drift apart and more so the longer it runs but I notice a major difference very soon into the test with Auto over tuned GTL's.

If you actually wanted to make sure all Cores were nearly equal you can run Prime in Safe Mode and they will be near as possible the same as very little Processes running.

[Marcio]

Hi.
This is my 24/7 settings, 30 loops IBT maximum stress level stable, all aircooled, bios 1307.
Priming for 8h so far...

[KURTZ]

SLI ENABLED FOR P45/X38 MAINBOARDS!!!!!

http://en.expreview.com/2009/08/06/e...therboard.html

[GFORCE100]

SLI ENABLED FOR P45/X38 MAINBOARDS!!!!!

http://en.expreview.com/2009/08/06/e...therboard.html

Yes, E.V.O. did this on the MIIF too by patching the BIOS but since then I haven't seen him on these forums be it posting in this or other threads. Quite a pity as he also changed some ROM's in the MIIF BIOS.

[mooch49]

will there be a problem running 2 4870's on this board. i've read in various furoms that the p45 has limitations when it comes to crossfire. like it will run the speed at 8x instead of 16x.

[humeyboy]

will there be a problem running 2 4870's on this board. i've read in various furoms that the p45 has limitations when it comes to crossfire. like it will run the speed at 8x instead of 16x.

I can safely say do not listen to anyone telling you that and it was proven to be fine on a few sites many months ago.

The P45 is PCI-E 2.0 and its has 2 x more Bandwidth than previous versions.

I cannot comment on cards soon to be release esp the Dual cards.

[screwtech02]

Your not gonna notice any difference @x8, nuthin comes close to saturating the pci-e bandwidth even @x8....

[KURTZ]

Yes, E.V.O. did this on the MIIF too by patching the BIOS but since then I haven't seen him on these forums be it posting in this or other threads. Quite a pity as he also changed some ROM's in the MIIF BIOS.

i know, but this thing haven't any connection with e.v.o.'s modded bios ...