The ***OFFICIAL*** F@H Harassment and discussion thread!!!

[Kondik]

Hmm I Have three idle GTX 285's ... let me toss a coin

[Sparky]

Idle? IDLE?!! BLASPHEMY!!

[RAW-Raptor22]

Idle? IDLE?!! BLASPHEMY!!

I have one GTX 285 folding, and the other is idle, it takes too long to switch from dual monitor mode, to SLi mode when I want to game.

[Kondik]

YEAH ! Blame nVidia I have the same problem

[p2501]

I know I should beat myself for being interested in this after 3 GTX295 RMAs but I have to admit that I want to know if anyone on our team is folding on one of the single PCB 295s? Any experiences with temps or durability?

[OldChap]

Ask me again next month......although I can't make up my mind if it should fold or grid and 2*275's or 1*295singlepcb.

The summer temps did their worst after a year of working well......With 1 1/2 dead gx2's here I'm still thinking that the two cards is a better bet.......Reported temps on the single card are only 5deg better.

[Sparky]

I've seen enough issues with dual-GPU cards that I would say stick with single-GPU cards. They seem to be more trouble-free. But that's my opinion without having worked with any dual-GPU cards.

[p2501]

...and there I was hoping that these issues magically diasappeared with the shiny new single pcb cards. Maybe not lol. Well two 285's also produce good points. -_-;

[WFO]

...and there I was hoping that these issues magically diasappeared with the shiny new single pcb cards. Maybe not lol. Well two 285's also produce good points. -_-;

I have 3 of the dual pcb GTX 295s. Windows doesn't know bleep about which card is which. Nor does F@H. Thanks to Nvidia, Windows and F@H, gpu 0 might change to gpu 6 on any random reboot. That make OCing like playing Russian Roulette! 4 of the 6 GPUs on my main rig run stock clocks for the above reasons.

GTX 275s are currently best bang for the buck. I think 295s sandwiched together on a board like a P6T throttle down due to heat. Fahmon can show as little a 4Kppd. 275s run much cooler if your board has multiple PCI-E slots. They always show 6-8k ppd and max at 75-80C. I haven't been able to afford water blocks to test my throttling down theory. 4 of my GTX 295 gpus are always 105C.

[p2501]

4 of my GTX 295 gpus are always 105C.

That just can't be right in the long run!
But yeah, I guess single cards just are the better option for folding, when one dies, which is even less propable, you still have one running while the other is in RMA. Anyone ever heard what kind of failure rate AtlasFolder has?

[kevikev]

Last night, I had the fun experience of being woken up at 1AM by the smoke/fire detectors in the house. Presumably, the hot air from the room with my 16 GPUs came out and triggered some sort of delta detector that is set off by the difference in temperature between the other room and the ambient temperature. OR maybe it wasn't the "sauna" at all (because this has never happened before) and instead it was the rapid drop in outside temperature that caused the detectors to go off.

Anyways, just in case, I paused 8 of the 16 GPUs overnight and started them back up again this morning.

Skews the PPDs

[p2501]

I must say I'm really impressed with i7.



Also, VMware Server rocks. I think there was a possibility to run 4 core VM's, need to find that.

[Johmem]

Meh. You're lucky to get all four A2 cores. The most I have had in the last week was three at one time. Usually just 1 or 2. The A1 Cores have half the PPD .

Oh well, I'll fold what they give me.

[p2501]

Yup, that's what I also do, but it's a nice start anyway. I haven't been so lucky with my Q6600, which I literally had to beat to 3.4GHz lol. Also, no problems yet with notfreds VM this time *keeps fingers crossed*.

I'm just so happy to be back in business!

Edit: Yay, two Palit GTX275 Dual Fan arrived today! Sadly I can't put them in right now because I'm still missing four 6-pin extensions, hope they'll be here soon. With them in my CS601 it's finally getting reeeeeally cramped in there... o_0;

[Kondik]

Oh might council of Folding please let me ask a Question of great importance which piss... uhm bothers your minions.

Does anyone have OC'd i7 here and Folds on it ?

No matter what I can't make my piece of Silicium work correctly while OC'd and there are too many questions hanging above that I have to ask
members with working I7's.

920 owners prolly will be the best but I think on a wider scale it doesn't matter that much.

Voltages, Frequencies, Boards , Memories

I WANT EVERYTHING !

Oops

[p2501]

The screenshot above is actually an W3520 @ 4.2GHz with HT enabled. =)

Concerning Voltages, Frequencies, Boards , Memories , with all 4 of them there is so much variance there's no one that could point you to them except yourself. I'm running a DFI x58 T3eH8, which works for me and me chip. I'm also running 12GB of OCZ1600LV Plat sticks. Both are running just fine. What I hear is that Gigabutt and Assus boards are generally easier to get stable. The very beefy PWM on the EVGA Classified on the other side could mean very good long term folding stability. There's just too much choice.

But since already have that EVGA let me ask you this: how did you achieve your OC? Did you stability test it with LinX AND Prime (both are actually needed, since one tests vcore and the other IMC stability) for at least 8 hours? Is your chip properly cooled? Everything in the 80's and above is not ideal for long term.

Edit:

http://i4memory.com/102537-post3.html (I know it's for a different board than you have but contain lots of useful information)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=877
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=205779

[Kondik]

Oh p2501 thanks for noticing so fast,

well my i7 is colled by dual P12ed Noctua , the tower TRUE wannabe , well greased

The main thing is , I put my memory modules to 7-7-7-24 800 MHz [ OCZ Kit the Platinum one 7-7-7-24 800 ]
And the thing dies in Like 1st test of Linx with a BSOD, that's with default voltages, so I was thinking that my i7 has a really ed up internal memory controller and I can sit and cry.

When I beef up voltages a little it's still the same.

When I pull out 6 Gigs of the RAM's and work just with the 3 sticks [ 6 GB ] it's better yet still causes troubles.

I've been playing with this thing long time yet I never managed to get it stable. The CPU hates me or ... hates me.
I applied newest BIOS , sacrificed a goat .. I'm out of ideas

But I'll read through the attached links and let you know if I "Baconized" my CPU

By the way I found our Forum Guide

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=...1&key=&#642527

Short , plain click here do that but looks similar to the 2nd one you posted.

[p2501]

Na I don't think you messed something up. What I can say is that you find something unstable and played around with all kinds of volts it's best to start from zero. Set you multi to like 15 and your bclk to 180. Below 200 You raise 10MHz per step, above you raise 5 until you reach 210, then your steps maybe be down to one MHz. Just try to find stability for the bclk you want first with very relaxed memory. If you've reached what you want you start slowly raising your multi to what you want it to be. Then follows RAM for which you first need to find the right VTT-DRAM voltage combination for your specific board and RAM, then you can fine tune timings. Memory is the key in getting your i7 stable, if your IMC or mem is unhappy, you won't ever have a stable system (that's why I proposed combining LinX with Prime and why getting your mem up to speed is the last step).

Prime must be run with blend or large FFT with all available memory, in-place unchecked. LinX also must be run with all mem available.

With whatever you end up after this you should be stable.

[DR3]

Oh might council of Folding please let me ask a Question of great importance which piss... uhm bothers your minions.

Does anyone have OC'd i7 here and Folds on it ?

No matter what I can't make my piece of Silicium work correctly while OC'd and there are too many questions hanging above that I have to ask
members with working I7's.

920 owners prolly will be the best but I think on a wider scale it doesn't matter that much.

Voltages, Frequencies, Boards , Memories

I WANT EVERYTHING !

I agree with p2501 even chip and rig are different.
There is already a tread where we discussed the best client for the Core i7.


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=228068

Also there is a great guide for overclocking at:
http://deep-powder.net/OC_Guide/Mem_...king_Guide.htm

Hope those help.

Currently I do not overclock my 920 because of the heat buildup.

[Kondik]

I think I fixed it with your help.

This looks much better



Doesn't it ?

The CPU VTT was the co... ups roosterblock

[p2501]

Oh noes!!!! We helped him getting his i7 up to speed and now he's using it for the evil Berkeley guys instead of Stanford...



I'm glad it works.

[Kondik]

Be what ? No no I'm dedicated to stanford I just can't get the 2nd GPU running because my 2nd LCD is in RMA and I don't have a spare Dummy plug and the MPICH or DENI something SMP clients aren't running properly at all ... prolly I need a OS reinstallation giving the poor old 7's a Try [ Rearm for the win ? ] and it will work. I need to find out what's the Operational Temp. range for VRM's on the EVGA X58 Board because of the OC they are hitting some very interesting temps... God damn I need IFX 14 for i7 with Quadruple P12's !

But when I sort these little things I could be back in business ...

[p2501]

I guess I misunderstood your 0 24h avg. combined with the marooned user name as you using your system for crunching instead of folding. Excuses, excuses.

[Kondik]

Hmm I got a Page in Nonpaged area BSOD I raised the Timings on memory and it's fine looks like +0.3V on half of the things didn't agree with VRMos the god of Voltage. WIll have to play with it then reinstall and then show you how one 4.2 GHz i7 and two 750/1700/2600 MHz GTXes Chew and spit WU's.

Crunching folding ... It's the same, we're using mass to feed our hungry hardware to chew numbers , spin atoms and grow crops to help the rest whom can't
But I understand the Folding Crunching Chewing Finger Chicken Licking trashtalk is needed

[DR3]

the MPICH or DENI something SMP clients aren't running properly at all

Tried to lead you to the thread that I had to get help with my Core i7.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=228068

The MPICH and DENI Windows clients do not run that well.
Using a virtual linux machine is the most productive CPU cruncher for those of us that do not want to go to linux os.

All you need to do this is the VMPlayer and nofreds folding client.
Here is a thread that explains how to install.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=197751

Hope that helps.