well thats what doesnt make sense though imo...Originally Posted by Movieman
Your correct, the simple problem is they hit a heat wall and to increase performance added cores instead of MHz..
That simple, they don't know how to build a 7000mhz air cooled chip yet.. Would be nice if they did but until then we live with more cores or as I suggested to you, build a E8600 dual core and clock the crap out of it.
I bet you could get close to 5000 on water cooling and that should be fast enough for you.. and cheap too..
they hit a power ceiling? gulftown will have 6 cores in a 135W tdp, right?
thats 22.5W per core... now remove uncore and L3 cache and imc, and your left with an actual tdp per core of less than 20W... that can hardly be the power limit...
so intel and amd can produce less than 20W cores at around 3ghz, but they cant produce 40W cores that either clock notably higher or have a better ipc?
sorry, but im not buying it :P
taking the core apart and reworking it means a LOT of r&d and r&d is biiiig money... just doubling your previous design up and maybe changing a few bits here and there is much cheaper... thats the way the dram industry and nand industry works, and i think intel and amd want to go down that route to save costs and avoid delays and failures when tinkering with the actual cores...
all fair and fine... if this would actually work for the end users like it does with nand and dram... but it doesnt... id really like to know how much power is wasted on a global basis on additional cpu cores being idle... it must be an insane amount of energy...
bring in atom... now THATS innovation!
intel again stumbles over a great design as with the pentium M, and what do they do? AGAIN they break out in political internal BS arguments and instead of pushing forward innovation they cripple the design artificially so they can keep ramming more cores down everybodies throats and charge for it big time... and amd? they dont have anything comparable so they dont even try to compete... oh please... the cpu industry is in a really sad state...
no wonder intel pushes for gpus, they know that they risk pulling a blue ray victory, winning the cpu segment over once and for good, to find out most people really dont care about fast cpus anymore
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