Elpida Hyper Graveyard

[bingo13]

I'm talking about several end users that had issues with several kits on their mobo(s), not of the issue in general. If it happens with ya setup time after time, kit after kit, then it could be something else then just the ram. (soz for my bad english if you missundastood).

I see it like this : It can be a big batch of bad Hyper IC's. Eg as some of the OC'ers at the GOOC had issues running several ram kits even at their default rated speeds. Some might be badly binned (very positive about that looking at the low availability of high end kits : 2000C7, the 2000C8,C9 are so widely available), some have bad contact with the heatspreader (manufacturer error)...

Though do not forget : some mobo's really do overvolt big time when under load, some mobo's biosses have Ram speed presets that pump 1.8-2 volts when selected,... just to name a few issues...

Really think you are looking at it a bit too narrow, it's not always the ram, it might be mobo, user settings, bad usage etc... and ofcourse we see lots of complaints from users that ofcourse never pushed their rams... it was the same with the CPU degredation thing : one had it,then another and all of the sudden almost everyone else had it too (snowball effect), but it's never the user's fault...

There's an issue with these rams for sure, hope there will be some sort of solution for it, besides RMA'ing all the time... but we need to keep our perspective objective

It is the RAM, more specifically the IC, why is the question we are trying to answer. I am sorry, but this argument about it being the board is nonsense. We have had failures on five different boards (ASUS, MSI, EVGA, Gigabyte, ASRock) at various voltage settings ranging from 1.50V to 1.80V VDimm and with VTT at stock 1.15V settings up to 1.375V.

It made no difference as to the supplier of memory either, OCZ, Corsair, GSkill, Kingston, Patriot, and now Mushkin. The argument about IOH temperatures being a factor is nonsense also. The memory has failed with IOH temps ranging from 47C to 79C and in various slots.

So, it simply comes down to the fact that either there is a problem with the IC (maybe PCB combo used) or a problem with the memory manufacturers recommending voltages higher than the 1.50V limit suggested by Elpida. On a side note, as far as the possibility of a bad batch, our failures have occurred with first lot parts all the way through to the latest lot.