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[cdawall]

Heh that was directed at sound dood....as he seems to think 955's are in the same league....

oh you didn't get the memo the hand picked 955's that k|ngp|n used were in fact retail chips we just didn't know it

[Slappa]

one positive in this is the ability to debate this without it decending into some kind free for all, for that i am happy.

i also agree with movieman to the extent, that maybe we should sit back and let people enjoy thier chips, at the expense of a company,

this is a much wider debate, that can be adressed again, so i am out of the thread.

enjoy your chips guys

edit sry: i swear i am out after this,



so these are chips that would have been apparently 'rejected' that are not anywhere near as good as the 'austin chips' (in gomelers opinion), so what are we seeing here? i am really confused now.

did someone just knock this idea up in a shed somewhere, get themselves some boxes from ikea, and spraypaint them with some stencils? when in fact in reality they sgould have been thrown in the bin as fails?

if that is the case, then this would be totaly ironic

Not so much the chips.....what is more important is the person overclocking them

[gOtVoltage]

Not so much the chips.....what is more important is the person overclocking them

Yes more so the person ,,

Both must still go hand in hand ,,

Like a tuned Racing Machine ,,internal parts need to be just as capable as the Driver pushing its limits.

[Slappa]

Yes more so the person ,,

Both must still go hand in hand ,,

Like a tuned Racing Machine ,,internal parts need to be just as capable as the Driver pushing its limits.

To an extent....yes

However, I have seen chew* take the sub-par chips and beat out others with way better chips.

[SF3D]

Great video Simon and the rest! Very good scores too!

I find this part funny:



Vince talking about scaling under cold and in the background Sampsa is pouring LN2 on to my head

And that text on the old video is epic. "AMD does not recommend pouring liquid nitrogen on your head or on your friends head"

[Vivi]

Rofl Sf!!!!!!!!

[k|ngp|n]

hehe I watched your video over and over and over again. That text made me laugh every time

[lolhalol]

probably where u got the idea to talk about scaling under cold just when sampsa pours the ln2. haha

[MusicIsMyLife]

I was a bit surprised to se Overclocker Club's review done on only dice...

To be honest I am shocked to see "reviews" done with dry ice cooling.

It's well known that Phenom II scales with temperature. Doing such an marketing move I would do everything to make sure everybody who receive one piece will get the most out of it - of course with ln2. That TWKR is a special thing for the top dogs and it should be presented like it is - and not with clockspeeds that an Intel-user can achieve with watercooling.

Who is impressed to see 4.7 ghz with dry ice? I'm not. 6+ ghz and we are talking (no matter what cooling is used). So I don't get the point why AMD send such cpus to people who don't have full access to ln2.

That's no offense but I have seen lots of things from AMD that aren't well done (especially in Germany). And due to the fact that people got pieces and didn't test with ln2 I'm a bit disappointed.



I almost forgot: Great clocks and scores around there. Congratulations to all who are involved in this event.

[chew*]

I would like to see one of these bad boys under my cascade

This will become a reality.......permission has been granted......PM me for details......I will also supply you a gigabyte 790FXT-UD5P.

In return I ask that you make a post on tech reaction of your experiences.....use whatever cooling means you see fit other than air.

[64NOMIS]

To be honest I am shocked to see "reviews" done with dry ice cooling.

It's well known that Phenom II scales with temperature. Doing such an marketing move I would do everything to make sure everybody who receive one piece will get the most out of it - of course with ln2. That TWKR is a special thing for the top dogs and it should be presented like it is - and not with clockspeeds that an Intel-user can achieve with watercooling.

Who is impressed to see 4.7 ghz with dry ice? I'm not. 6+ ghz and we are talking (no matter what cooling is used). So I don't get the point why AMD send such cpus to people who don't have full access to ln2.

That's no offense but I have seen lots of things from AMD that aren't well done (especially in Germany). And due to the fact that people got pieces and didn't test with ln2 I'm a bit disappointed.

I almost forgot: Great clocks and scores around there. Congratulations to all who are involved in this event.

A few things to add.

First, the thermal conductivity of pure copper actually increases from just above the LN2 to LHe and below range. This is a remarkable coincidence creating the opportunity for lower temperature and thermal conductivity with LN2 and LHe. So, as you state,a high static dissipation processor that can scale will shine most brightly under the ultimate test of LN2 and LHe.

However, I suspected that a well-designed DICE pot could, in the right hands, bring out some of the goodness of a TWKR. As long as you can shed the heat, you have the benefit of higher current potentially driving higher clocks. And as many of you know, chew* has produced outstanding DICE results in the past, and came through with a 5.35GHz 4 core validation and a 5.13 Pi run. That's a hell of a result and shows that a properly tuned DICE rig and a more efficient thermal interface have potential with high static dissipation processors.

We will see more results; these parts have been out in the wild only for days and arrangements for a proper LN2 run require some time. This is the beginning, not the end. We are simply spoiled by chew* and a few others who were ready to fly with these parts like a bat-out-of-hell. I know of a few events coming together that will continue this experiment...

Sincere thanks for everyone's comments. This is a challenging time for our industry (and just about everyone), and we appreciate the encouragement. We don't mind the criticism. Just remember that AMD is not a colossus, it is a group of people mostly in Austin and Markham, with a manufacturing partner mostly in Dresden, working to push the limits for the few while serving millions.

[64NOMIS]

Great video Simon and the rest! Very good scores too!

I find this part funny:

Vince talking about scaling under cold and in the background Sampsa is pouring LN2 on to my head

And that text on the old video is epic. "AMD does not recommend pouring liquid nitrogen on your head or on your friends head"

I like it when people notice the details. The team in Austin saw "The Experiment" and "Finland is Cold" and "Proving Grounds" about a hundred times, they are now permanently ingrained in the memory of all who were there.

Funny, no one has commented on the most recent disclaimer. Oh well. Not every toss is a ringer.

[FlanK3r]

I believe, AMD age is coming...PII are great processors and i have a vision, K11 Bulldozer will great CPU.


I found this:
http://star.ap.teacup.com/dakara/



record 32M AMD? whau!!!!

[VoodooProphetII]

Amazing stuff, great results and pretty cool video.

Well done AMD and all involved.

[Buckeye]

This will become a reality.......permission has been granted......PM me for details......I will also supply you a gigabyte 790FXT-UD5P.

In return I ask that you make a post on tech reaction of your experiences.....use whatever cooling means you see fit other than air.

Will do and thanks again !

[VoodooProphetII]

If only we could get a sample in South Africa......

[TheGreenFoX]

I really like that video... kinda catchy... (watched it 4 times in a row)..

Cant wait to throw some dice on my TWKR:-)

[Slappa]

I like it when people notice the details. The team in Austin saw "The Experiment" and "Finland is Cold" and "Proving Grounds" about a hundred times, they are now permanently ingrained in the memory of all who were there.

Funny, no one has commented on the most recent disclaimer. Oh well. Not every toss is a ringer.

I liked the recent disclaimer Simon.

Everyone In This Video Is Exactly Who We Say They Are. No Actors, Replicants, or Cyborgs. No Matrix

But comon, we all know that every person at AMD has been "replaced" with AMD Cyborg 2 Technology.........Each host machine has the ability to speak, create, and overclock

....that gives me an idea, the current platform name is "Dragon"...make the next one cyborg

Jokes