Confirmed: Feser 1 Blue Premix + GTZ = do NOT want

[millertime359]

Doubt that is it as water temps don't reach boiling in a WC loop, if they ever did you have much bigger problems on your hand than some gunk in your block!

That and even if your cpu ran at 100 degrees C, the fluid is constantly moving through the rad, so it wouldn't ever have time to reach the same temp.

[zanzabar]

I dont think primochill is the cause..... I have a vga loop in Primochill pro LRT green with feser green fluid pure and that is still running great in the same time frame. The only difference between the 2 loops is restriction

they could be different u would have to use the blue in the gpu loop

[Russ_64]

Some more pics of my video card blocks after using F1 Acid Green - guess I will have to open them up and do full clean before using them again .......

[CyberDruid]

Thanks Ian. I'll avoid Feser premix forever.

[bentleya]

1 thing for sure, green particels can not be in blue F1, so its copper patina maybe? You 100% you cleaned out everything before you began? 100%

[greg.m]

Thanks Ian. I'll avoid Feser premix forever.

Same here!!

The funny thing is that im waiting 2 bottles f1 uv blue from chilled but now after the last few days and this thread (which by the way is full of infos, you guys...) there is no way to use them.
Yesterday i bought som destilled water and im thinking to use just a little coolant in it - maybe arround 5%. Now about the 2xf1 uv blue, ill put an advertisement and sell them direct...

[*|T2D|*PopovS]

It has to be something in the loop that caused reaction. If that would be common problem with F1, tons of people already would scream about it. I don't buy this case at face value.

[citat3962]

What is different about the Feser Liquid?

I'm not even using the stuff and I'm getting the urge to open up and clean my blocks !!

[paul_]

This is getting more and more concerning. Sniipe, I hope you get to talk to TFC soon.

[millertime359]

There are random cases of things like this happening, but it doesn't seem there is any link between anything. There has to be a reaction going on. There are alot of possibilities if things reacting in his loop.

There have been people running F1 for the past year with a little to no build up in the blocks. I don't think everyone running WC needs to run right home right now and drain and clean your system, if it has been done recently.

[Akuma2000]

I'm running F1 also a long time, in three seperate loops (Blue, Red and Acid Green).
No problems at all. My plexi waterblocks stays very clear.

This must be a rare case I guess...
Something in that loop must have caused a chemical reaction or something like that.

[sirheck]

I wonder why they make it taste sweet? Why not make it uber bitter?

In small amounts it is kinda sweet.
I have got larger amounts in my mouth and its NASTY.
I litterally for about half the work day.
My mouth felt like the skin was melting off.
Drank lots of water and gargled it too, to
try and get rid of the taste.

Got kinda sick and didnt feel good either.

The pump from our 50 gallon drum was broke so i syphoned
some to fill a jug to put in an engine i just rebuilt.

Got a mouth full and was pissed (at myself) and sick the rest of the day.

[bluehaze]

I dont think primochill is the cause..... I have a vga loop in Primochill pro LRT green with feser green fluid pure and that is still running great in the same time frame. The only difference between the 2 loops is restriction

Well, I could see restriction causing the buildup in the cpu block. I guess VGA blocks are much more free flowing so rather than have the buildup concentrated in one place it would be more spread out. Perhaps inside the rad...

One thing is certain from this thread. If i wan't to use some Feser I will be avoiding the Primochill anti microbal tubing like the plague and vice versa

[LinusTech]

I dont think primochill is the cause..... I have a vga loop in Primochill pro LRT green with feser green fluid pure and that is still running great in the same time frame. The only difference between the 2 loops is restriction

I covered this already earlier. I'm honestly very surprised we're all still having this conversation...

Feser Blue != Feser Green.

Just because something doesn't react with your green dye (in a different system no less) doesn't mean that it won't react with the blue stuff. It's not like when they're mixing this stuff up they put all of the same ingredients in 6 different bottles, then ask them politely (in German) to please turn 6 different colours.

These are chemicals. All colours are different from each other in composition.

[dreamaxx]

Wow, guys don't put ethylene glycol in your mouth for god's sake. It is poisonous. And once it is converted to calcium oxalate in your body and lodges in your kidneys you can't get rid of it (that's how it causes kidney failure). Just don't put the stuff near your mouth!

[millertime359]

Well, I could see restriction causing the buildup in the cpu block. I guess VGA blocks are much more free flowing so rather than have the buildup concentrated in one place it would be more spread out. Perhaps inside the rad...

One thing is certain from this thread. If i wan't to use some Feser I will be avoiding the Primochill anti microbal tubing like the plague and vice versa

It's probably better that way. Better safe than sorry

Wow, guys don't put ethylene glycol in your mouth for god's sake. It is poisonous. And once it is converted to calcium oxalate in your body and lodges in your kidneys you can't get rid of it (that's how it causes kidney failure). Just don't put the stuff near your mouth!

Great advice Dream, as it seems, some people need to be reminded of this from time to time

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I covered this already earlier. I'm honestly very surprised we're all still having this conversation...

Feser Blue != Feser Green.

Just because something doesn't react with your green dye (in a different system no less) doesn't mean that it won't react with the blue stuff. It's not like when they're mixing this stuff up they put all of the same ingredients in 6 different bottles, then ask them politely (in German) to please turn 6 different colours.

These are chemicals. All colours are different from each other in composition.

I still dont think thats the cause... (the tubing)

I dont have buildup in any other blocks, the rad was clean and the res was relatively clean. The only place I had issues was the CPU block and the buildup in there was abnormal to say the least...

[millertime359]

I still dont think thats the cause... (the tubing)

I dont have buildup in any other blocks, the rad was clean and the res was relatively clean. The only place I had issues was the CPU block and the buildup in there was abnormal to say the least...

How did you loop go? Is the the CPU right after pump? There could also be something where the pins in the GTZ helped to trap the gunk. That would explain why everything is just there.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

nah, the loop went pump-rad-rad-cpu-mosfet-res

I will say yes its possible the problem lies with the tubing but I really dont think so. I have extra blue and green fluid I may drain the video loop and switch up the colors just to put this one to bed in one go....

[millertime359]

nah, the loop went pump-rad-rad-cpu-mosfet-res

I will say yes its possible the problem lies with the tubing but I really dont think so. I have extra blue and green fluid I may drain the video loop and switch up the colors just to put this one to bed in one go....

Probably bout the best way to test it. Have to put it back to folding and crunching. That might have had a little to do with it too, who knows

Edit: Damn S_D, think you got everyone on the web's attention with this thread. I'm waiting to see it mentioned on Good Morning America or CNN

[tamu80]

Since I am using the same CPU cooler and a mosfet cooler in the loop I don't think I am going to be using Fezer 1 Acid Green. Damn....2 unopened bottles just sitting here.

[MomijiTMO]

Ebay they go!

[neo_rtr]

Same here!!

The funny thing is that im waiting 2 bottles f1 uv blue from chilled but now after the last few days and this thread (which by the way is full of infos, you guys...) there is no way to use them.
Yesterday i bought som destilled water and im thinking to use just a little coolant in it - maybe arround 5%. Now about the 2xf1 uv blue, ill put an advertisement and sell them direct...

For a "Special" price my friend i get them off your hands..

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

loop is filled and bleeding with pure feser blue.... Sometimes I realize this "hobby" has turned me into a masochist

[Freonor]

I still think there was a reaction due to either contamination or the anti-microbials. It takes very little to contaminate certains solutions. One drop of something can make loads of precipitate.

EDIT: Maybe because I'm using it myself and really hoping there's nothing wrong with feser :P