The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[lbassa]

This is mine


By neo_rtr at 2008-08-14

there is a difference.. hmm..

With E85 more Write and copy in memorys and lower frequency

[neo_rtr]

With E85 more Write and copy in memorys and lower frequency

Good numbers. I think is the 8x500 that gives this extra push for the 10K number.

[wander_jarra]

Thanks for info.

Btw, i've noticed your are using 0803 as described on your sig, how is it doing ? I'm still on very old beta bios. Can i update it ?!

Yes for my self did some magic back then and i was able to OC with lower Volts.
After the 0902 trip i got issues back in 0803 but with higher volts.

go with the 0803 and i think you will be just fine[/QUOTE]

Thanks for update - i'll give 0803 a try.

[lbassa]

Good numbers. I think is the 8x500 that gives this extra push for the 10K number.

Thx

I sell my memorys 4X1Gb and going to buy a new Kit Memory 2X2Gb 1000Mhz

and soon go to EXTRA PUSH for 10K

[neo_rtr]

trying out vista 7.. if you have any commends pls post.

[SpuTnicK]

Hello, got this problem, the mobo sets vdimm to 1.89V, when i set it 1.80V in bios. If i flash to rampage bios, will it fix this problem? Or will i be able to set lower than 1.8V?

[iTravis]

Anybody here with 8GB RAM on this motherboard? I currently have a G.Sill 2x2GB kit and thinking of getting another. What would be the odd running 4x2GB sticks as how the performance compare to 2x2GB? I have my Q6600 @3.6Ghz, will it have any effects on OC capability?

[Grnfinger]

Anybody here with 8GB RAM on this motherboard? I currently have a G.Sill 2x2GB kit and thinking of getting another. What would be the odd running 4x2GB sticks as how the performance compare to 2x2GB? I have my Q6600 @3.6Ghz, will it have any effects on OC capability?

you will not be able to overclock you ram as high, honestly unless you can justify the need for 8GBs ther is no real world benifit in running it

I can get my Dominators to 1121Mhz running 8GB's but the volts on the NB are high... my GSkills will not even run a there rated speed about 1000MHz or so b4 stability issues arrive

Hello, got this problem, the mobo sets vdimm to 1.89V, when i set it 1.80V in bios. If i flash to rampage bios, will it fix this problem? Or will i be able to set lower than 1.8V?

board overvolts dimms about .8 volts or so, rampage bios will not resolve this issue

[iTravis]

you will not be able to overclock you ram as high, honestly unless you can justify the need for 8GBs ther is no real world benifit in running it

I can get my Dominators to 1121Mhz running 8GB's but the volts on the NB are high... my GSkills will not even run a there rated speed about 1000MHz or so b4 stability issues arrive



board overvolts dimms about .8 volts or so, rampage bios will not resolve this issue

I'm pretty much done with OCing since I got my Q6600 to 3.6Ghz and I'm happy with that. I'm just wondering if I put another 2x2GB sticks in then will it have any effects on stability issue, I know it will put more pressure on the NB and all that but since I'm not gonna touch anything in the BIOS settings, I just wanna know if I can get away with it, btw I don't OC the RAM as I'm using the DDR2-1066.

Here's my current settings for Q6600:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster :Auto


CPU Voltage : 1.447 (close to 1.5)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Grnfinger]

I'm pretty much done with OCing since I got my Q6600 to 3.6Ghz and I'm happy with that. I'm just wondering if I put another 2x2GB sticks in then will it have any effects on stability issue, I know it will put more pressure on the NB and all that but since I'm not gonna touch anything in the BIOS settings, I just wanna know if I can get away with it, btw I don't OC the RAM as I'm using the DDR2-1066.

Here's my current settings for Q6600:

You will almost certainly need more vNB
Running ram 1:1 will make getting 8GB's stable easier so I doubt you'll have much tweaking to do once you up the NB volts

[iTravis]

You will almost certainly need more vNB
Running ram 1:1 will make getting 8GB's stable easier so I doubt you'll have much tweaking to do once you up the NB volts

My NB temp is freaking hot already and I'll have to add more voltage...hm..8GB really sound tempting to me but at the same time I don't wanna run into any stability trouble either. :d Thanks Grnfinger, I'll look into it more.

[Hockster]

Anybody here with 8GB RAM on this motherboard? I currently have a G.Sill 2x2GB kit and thinking of getting another. What would be the odd running 4x2GB sticks as how the performance compare to 2x2GB? I have my Q6600 @3.6Ghz, will it have any effects on OC capability?

I've got 8GB of Mushkin 800 on my Formula SE. E8500@3.8GHz, NB only needs 1.35 volts. Temp stays around 44°C. Anything over 1.40 volts and the temps get retardedly high.

[iTravis]

I've got 8GB of Mushkin 800 on my Formula SE. E8500@3.8GHz, NB only needs 1.35 volts. Temp stays around 44°C. Anything over 1.40 volts and the temps get retardedly high.

I believe a quad need more volt on the NB than a dual in order to get it stable over time so yeh, I can't lower my NB to anything less than 1.45.

[lbassa]

532X8 5-5-5-15 1066Mhz

New memory Mushkin 2X2Gb 1000Mhz XP2-8000

litle be to 10k read

Best scores only FSB: Memory 1:1,i try boot with 1100Mhz 5-5-5-15 (458X9 : 1100Mhz) 8.5K read

[Sources]

Anyone have some good manual settings for timings for their 4 x 1024mb Ballistix Tracers 1066mhz ?

[junkun13]

help! lcd poster says "VGA BIOS" then it will automatically shutdown. I've tried other video cards but the same output displays

[Grnfinger]

help! lcd poster says "VGA BIOS" then it will automatically shutdown. I've tried other video cards but the same output displays

what changes if any have you made or has this just started on its own???

See if the card boots in another rig
PSU is 100%?? could be a failing PSU not giving enough juice to the gpu
Bios could be corrupt (doubt it) but you could do a full reset and re flash the bios.
I would look at the psu if this just started and the gpu will boot in another rig

[Sources]

help! lcd poster says "VGA BIOS" then it will automatically shutdown. I've tried other video cards but the same output displays

Also maybe try to reset your BIOS

[necrolyte]

I got this new processor Q9550 (c1) stepping with my Maximus Formula x38.

Can't even boot up with 3.7ghz. I'm not new in overclocking but this is a bit strange to me. sometimes my RAM doesn't post even on its stock frequency with exact voltage, my LCD poster is pausing at "DET DRAM". when I overclock the RAM, let say from 1066mhz to 1133mhz. it will boot up, but not in Windows.

I got feeling that this is some kind of FSB wall for paring this X38 to a 45nm processors. My friend managed to OC his Q9550 (E0) stepping to 4.4ghz stable with Prime95 torture test and 3Dmark benchmarks but he's using P45 chipset.

here are some of my overclocking screenies and links with my previous Q6600.

Q6600 @ 3.9ghz (Windows XP)

CPU-Z Validation

Q6600 @ 3.8ghz (Windows Vista Ultimate)

CPU Validation

also, my friend let me test his QX9650 on my Maximus Formula and here's the result

QX9650 @ 4.4ghz (Windows Vista Ultimate)

CPU-Z Validation

I can run benchmark with 4.3ghz as well.

anyway, back to my problem, is there any way to push the clocks of this Q9550?

Thanks!

[Grnfinger]

I got this new processor Q9550 (c1) stepping with my Maximus Formula x38.

Can't even boot up with 3.7ghz. I'm not new in overclocking but this is a bit strange to me. sometimes my RAM doesn't post even on its stock frequency with exact voltage, my LCD poster is pausing at "DET DRAM". when I overclock the RAM, let say from 1066mhz to 1133mhz. it will boot up, but not in Windows.

I got feeling that this is some kind of FSB wall for paring this X38 to a 45nm processors. My friend managed to OC his Q9550 (E0) stepping to 4.4ghz stable with Prime95 torture test and 3Dmark benchmarks but he's using P45 chipset.

here are some of my overclocking screenies and links with my previous Q6600.

Q6600 @ 3.9ghz (Windows XP)

CPU-Z Validation

Q6600 @ 3.8ghz (Windows Vista Ultimate)


also, my friend let me test his QX9650 on my Maximus Formula and here's the result

QX9650 @ 4.4ghz (Windows Vista Ultimate)


I can run benchmark with 4.3ghz as well.

anyway, back to my problem, is there any way to push the clocks of this Q9550?

Thanks!

X38 is 45nm quad limited there a few rare boards that can clock the chip well but not many, I had the Maximus X38 and a 9550 as well sold the board cause of the wall..if you want to clock that chip higher your going to need a different board

[Per Hansson]

Asus Rampage Formula BIOS (using it on a Maximus Formula)

It has the JMicron_JMB36x_Option_ROM_v1.07.04
And Intel_Matrix_Storage_Manager_Option_ROM_v8.7.1007_ ICH10R-DO_wRAID5

I actually don't use the Intel RAID, I bought a real hardware based add-in RAID5 card but thought others might find this useful...
There are no other mods in this BIOS, only the option roms have been replaced...

http://hem.spray.se/hanzzzon/RAMPAGE...69-1.07.04.rar

[OLDcomer]

@necrolyte, flash your mobo to Rampage Formula with bios 802 and enjoy higher fsb speeds by setting CPU Skew Control to 100ps and NB Skew Control to normal. I got 483fsb stable and 496fsb win bootable.

[steve30x]

Im having trouble ith this motherboard and a Q6600. Since september last year I have this motherboard and CPU combination running @ 3.5ghz but I upgrded the bios to 0902 last week and have been having prblems since then. So I went back to bios 0803 and put all settings back to default. Then I rebooted and set my OC to the way it was and started Dual Prime95 4 instances.

I had my Q6600 G0 stable @ 3.5ghz with dual prime95 8 hours up until about 2 weeks ago when my machine became unstable. So I thought it was my bios so I upgraded to 0902 but that didnt do anything so I went back to 0803 today and it still wont pass Prime 95 for longer than 15 minutes.

Heres my current settings

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 379
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-759
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
[The rest of the ram settings are @ auto]

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : lightert
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.62
North Bridge Voltage : 1.71
DRAM Voltage : 1.86
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.56
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

My hardware

Case : Antec P190
CPU : Intell Q6600
GPU : XFX GTX280
Motherboard : Asus Maximus Formula with Rampage Formula bios installed
RAM : 6GIG Crucial 800mhz
Power Supplie(s) : 550 Watt antec for HDD's , DVD's , Watercooling and fans / 650 Watt Antec for Motherboard and GPU
Air Cooling : 200MM Side fan , 140MM Top exhaust fan , 120mm Front fan
Water Cooling : Swiftech Apogee GTZ (CPU) , XSPC 400 Compact Reservoir / Pump and 120mm Radiator
Monitor : Samsung 2433BW Max resolution 1920 x 1200

Is this a sign tat my CPU or motherboard is starting to die or is there something wrong with my settings? My CPU reaches 66 celcius after a few minutes. All cores of the CPU stay going except core 3 which fails. I run small FFS test.

[Grnfinger]

Im having trouble ith this motherboard and a Q6600. Since september last year I have this motherboard and CPU combination running @ 3.5ghz but I upgrded the bios to 0902 last week and have been having prblems since then. So I went back to bios 0803 and put all settings back to default. Then I rebooted and set my OC to the way it was and started Dual Prime95 4 instances.

I had my Q6600 G0 stable @ 3.5ghz with dual prime95 8 hours up until about 2 weeks ago when my machine became unstable. So I thought it was my bios so I upgraded to 0902 but that didnt do anything so I went back to 0803 today and it still wont pass Prime 95 for longer than 15 minutes.

Heres my current settings

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 379
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-759
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
[The rest of the ram settings are @ auto]

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : lightert
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.62
North Bridge Voltage : 1.71
DRAM Voltage : 1.86
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.56
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

My hardware

Case : Antec P190
CPU : Intell Q6600
GPU : XFX GTX280
Motherboard : Asus Maximus Formula with Rampage Formula bios installed
RAM : 6GIG Crucial 800mhz
Power Supplie(s) : 550 Watt antec for HDD's , DVD's , Watercooling and fans / 650 Watt Antec for Motherboard and GPU
Air Cooling : 200MM Side fan , 140MM Top exhaust fan , 120mm Front fan
Water Cooling : Swiftech Apogee GTZ (CPU) , XSPC 400 Compact Reservoir / Pump and 120mm Radiator
Monitor : Samsung 2433BW Max resolution 1920 x 1200

Is this a sign tat my CPU or motherboard is starting to die or is there something wrong with my settings? My CPU reaches 66 celcius after a few minutes. All cores of the CPU stay going except core 3 which fails. I run small FFS test.

What prime FFS test are you failing ???
Why so much NB volts??? seems excessive for the clock is all...

[loften]

i think my bios got corrupted.. not sure but the other day i got det ram when starting up after off all day.. once i finally get it to come on it f1 screens me with stock settings then i can go into bios straight to exit bios and it fires right up like nothing happened.. i tried clearing c-mos, removing battery and also lowering my oc back down to stock.. after i got home today it wouldn't come on. det. ram again. i removed all ram and started with a stick to get it to f1 screened me again so i could get in and out of the bios to get it to start.. i think it is forgetting my memory voltage or something,, i don't know.. stupid thing.. anyone have this happen before? it has been solid for months and months until this.. the only thing that has changed is that we installed crysis and steam a day before it started..