Test report Apogee GTZ vs. Koolance 350 vs. HeatKiller 3.0

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1. How many use low-medium flow in comparison to high flow?
2. How many use CPU only loops in comparison to multi-block loops?

He is not complimented for doing his job as CEO, which as far as I know does not include being an active member of a public forum and actively interacting with members/customers. I don't see the CEO of HK hanging around here with us. He is complimented for admitting to being the CEO unlike others on this site and other sites who have biased and ulterior motives induced by a secret affiliation not made known to the other members.

If Gabe wanted to do some real "brand promotion", he would join the forum under another identity, posing as a regular ole' watercooling junkie who wants to conduct some "independent tests" for "the good of the forum community" and THEN skew the results in favor of Swiftech. OR simply give some "incentive" to one of the other "independent testers" to skew the results for him, which I am sure happens quite often. Why do it under his true identity, letting everyone know he is in fact the CEO of Swiftech, knowing full well that guys like you will automatically accuse him of a biased test in favor of his own product? It makes no sense.

If you're going to take his tests, results and information with a grain of salt simply because YOU KNOW who he is, then you need to take everyone else's tests, results and information with a grain of salt because YOU DON'T KNOW who they are.

No. If Gabe wanted to be called out for being a scam artist, a liar and a fraud, then he'd follow your suggestion. Or don't you remember the Belkin fiasco? But I have not nor do I intend to suggest he is even close to any of those. He's a CEO doing his job to promote his product and NOT promote the competitors (which he would quite possibly be doing if his tests were broader in scope). But that doesn't mean he shouldn't be called out on it. He's a big boy, he can take the heat. And if he can't he shouldn't be CEO in the first place.

As for the figures, question 1 was already answered, and you can go HERE to see them. But to answer your question 1 again, 78.7% run at high speed/flow and 18.1 run at low or medium speed.

As to question 2, of those with one loop only 13 run CPU only and 86% run CPU+GPU. So that part of the test is more representative than the flow portion. However of those with 2 loops 64.3 have an isolated CPU loop and the other 36% have CPU + soemthingelse in one of the loops.

So, again, I think Gabe's results are accurate. I don't think he cooked the books or falsified any of the results. But that doesn't mean the conditions are not favorable to his block, and I would expect any CEO who publishes a test of his companies products to make damn sure that the tests ARE favorable or they DON"T get published.

But do so in a public forum and you better damn well expect it to be scrutinized.

Oh, and one other thing. Gabe is complimented left and right for doing his job. What the hell are you talking about. And as for implying that all other tests are invalid because of YOUR conspiracy theory is bull as well. You attempt to credit Gabe by discrediting everyone else simply because they have the good sense to not post their own tests on a public forum and instead do so on their websites where it belongs. Here's what I would suggest. Gabe can create a Swiftec forum and posts tests to his hearts content. I would respect him for doing so. If you think the tests are valid you can start a post saying "Swiftec publishes new test results for medium flow loops" and I'd bet the response here would be quite different. Then Gabe can continue to do the other side of his job which he does VERY well which is to help his customers with questions about his products. I respect him and the others (like Dean from Koolance) for doing the same. THAT is the proper use of the forums by a company representative imo.