UnOfficial EVGA X58 Classified Owners Thread

[Splave]

comments on the board:
-the evga x58 sli board is protected better in the box (I prefer the form fitted plastic over some foam and a antistatic bag)
-the CLASSIFIED font looks something that belongs on a donkey kong barrel
-there should be a mini fan included that can be used on the mosfets and or the NB

Other than that, its my favorite x58 board to date. The way you can jack the pci-e to get the high bclk values is really un matched.

[dejanh]

Can this thread be linked off the OP?

X58 Classified Issues @ EVGA Forums

So far EVGA has used that thread to check what issues people are reporting in order to add fixes to the BIOS.

On a different note, here are my completely stable settings for 24/7 use on the 759 Classified. I can go higher as well though on air with the summer coming I think I'll leave it here. With 25C ambient temperatures and 83C on the hottest core I think I am plenty hot as is...

Unfortunately my chilled water setup does not fit due to the massive (and massively useless) NB sink so I have to stay on air for now. Not planning on paying for the NB WB at the moment. I really do not get why they could not have gone with a lower profile sink like the one on the R2E. It would have done just as good of a job.

DRAM is set at 1604MHz, 7-7-7-16-59-1T timings, 3.422GHz Uncore; running Without Vdroop

[ben805]

is running with vdroop on the classified same as the load line calibration being enable in the Asus P6T Deluxe??

[justin.kerr]

is running with vdroop on the classified same as the load line calibration being enable in the Asus P6T Deluxe??

no, without vdroop is same as llc being enabled

[dejanh]

no, without vdroop is same as llc being enabled

That's not quite true, well it is in meaning but not in practice. If you actually own an Asus board you will notice that enabling LLC not only eliminates Vdroop, but indeed overvolts the chip at load by as much as 0.05V sometimes. However, on the Classified measuring with a DMM and Without Vdroop will often be right at the set voltage or just below the set voltage but will always stay very close. Asus consistently overvolts.

[justin.kerr]

My 760 overvolts a bit under load? All 3 of my Asus boards vary on the amount of under/over volting with load, I only have one Gigabyte x58 board, it undervolted just a bit, my second 760 will be here next week, I will compare.

[dejanh]

My 760 overvolts a bit under load? All 3 of my Asus boards vary on the amount of under/over volting with load, I only have one Gigabyte x58 board, it undervolted just a bit, my second 760 will be here next week, I will compare.

Yeah, my 759 generally does not overvolt under load but is right at the voltage. However, R2E and R2G both overvolt pretty consistently around 0.05V. I have a feeling though that this may vary somewhat board to board in every manufacturer's case.

[ben805]

That's not quite true, well it is in meaning but not in practice. If you actually own an Asus board you will notice that enabling LLC not only eliminates Vdroop, but indeed overvolts the chip at load by as much as 0.05V sometimes. However, on the Classified measuring with a DMM and Without Vdroop will often be right at the set voltage or just below the set voltage but will always stay very close. Asus consistently overvolts.

So does that mean that With Vdroop on the classified, the voltage would drop more underload? And is it recommended to run it with or without Vdroop on this board (ie: 4.51Ghz @1.45v)?

[dejanh]

So does that mean that With Vdroop on the classified, the voltage would drop more underload? And is it recommended to run it with or without Vdroop on this board (ie: 4.51Ghz @1.45v)?

Yes, With Vdroop will drop the voltage more under load. Without Vdroop will generally keep it around the set value. With or without is up to the user. I prefer without as it is easier to get a stable overclock. You can always find the OC without Vdroop and then bump the voltage up by the Vdroop difference after you turn on Vdroop to still get the same end voltage needed for your OC. Does that sort of make sense?

[ben805]

Yes, With Vdroop will drop the voltage more under load. Without Vdroop will generally keep it around the set value. With or without is up to the user. I prefer without as it is easier to get a stable overclock. You can always find the OC without Vdroop and then bump the voltage up by the Vdroop difference after you turn on Vdroop to still get the same end voltage needed for your OC. Does that sort of make sense?

kinda weird how this board regulate the voltage but yea it made sense, I guess it's best to run without it. Out of curiousity I disabled the LLC on my P6T deluxe to run LinX, saw the vtt dipped sharply from 1.375 down to 1.31 for a split second then immediately follow by a BSOD, I guess in a way this is similar to the Classified With Vdroop... :-p thanks for the clarification.

[anzial]

There's another school of thought: the 'without vdroop' setting may cause high vcore spikes under load which may damage the CPU (more like the transient voltage spike)

[dejanh]

There's another school of thought: the 'without vdroop' setting may cause high vcore spikes under load which may damage the CPU (more like the transient voltage spike)

The likelihood of that happening is so low that for all practical intents and purposes it has no significance. There is not a person on this forum that does not cycle their chips every year or two at most. If you need mission critical with zero fault tolerance you really ought to not OC at all.

[anzial]

I think you fail to realize that different people have different degrees of fault tolerance. For example, I think if you want zero fault tolerance, you ought to live in a cage and use abacus for your math. In other words, while that small degree of CPU failure due to transient voltage with that setting is acceptable to you, it may not be acceptable to others. You should let others decide for themselves rather than telling them what to think.

In any case, I believe this topic has been discussed to death and there's no overall agreement on the issue of disabling vdroop. The best thing is to let people know about potential risks so that they could decide for themselves and avoid arguing about it because it won't do any good for any one.

[dejanh]

I think you fail to realize that different people have different degrees of fault tolerance. For example, I think if you want zero fault tolerance, you ought to live in a cage and use abacus for your math. In other words, while that small degree of CPU failure due to transient voltage with that setting is acceptable to you, it may not be acceptable to others. You should let others decide for themselves rather than telling them what to think.

In any case, I believe this topic has been discussed to death and there's no overall agreement on the issue of disabling vdroop. The best thing is to let people know about potential risks so that they could decide for themselves and avoid arguing about it because it won't do any good for any one.

Agreed. Back to the thread topic of discussing the Classified. I wish the OP was a bit more active...

[stephen23]

My baby finally arrived!!!

[masska]

My baby finally arrived!!!

stephen,resize your pics mate
and whats in your res, are they pieces of plastic/glass ?

[gatecrasherlok]

stephen,resize your pics mate
and whats in your res, are they pieces of plastic/glass ?

Hmm im not too sure here either. Judging by whats in the tubing it aint healthy either

[masska]

scotch on the rocks maybe

[LardArse]

[dejanh]

Got the new 24/7 OC, all air using the TRUE in a an Antec 900 case with a single 25mm 1500RPM 60CFM fan from Thermalright. This is as much as I am comfortable on air though I managed to get 4.46GHz stable as well but the temps were delta 1 to TJmax so I cannot run that on air. Anyway, here are the 4.378GHz settings (21x208.5). I had to loosen DRAM timings to 7-8-7-17-59-1T instead of the 7-7-7-16-59-1T that I use for the 4.21GHz OC. DRAM is running at 1668MHz and uses 3.545GHz Uncore.

[chuchnit]

Is that your rig sham?

[Malik[A]]

Stephen nice mess u've got there. Is that red coolant or so dirty water in circuit?
LardArse nice build

[TinTin]

My build E759





one more 760 have arrived too.

[G-UNIT91]

hi to all

what is the Max bclk@Air of this board?

[Anth Seebel]

My build E759





one more 760 have arrived too.

Nice setup..

why you using dual channel ? for better OC ?