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    They dont give a frak. They will use the "we dont support overclocking" excuse ANYTIME they can, especially to get out of fixing any type of issues.... Most, if not all MB manufacturers are the same way.... Its pretty weak to "advertise" the board as being able to support 1 thing, only for the end user to find that is doesnt.... Go figure.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz_the_germ View Post
    If having any problems, please don't hesitate to let me know. Let's discuss this
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    Thank you for using ASUS products and enjoying ASUS services!
    At least they give you the chance to talk about it.

    There's plenty of useful information to throw at them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by screwtech02 View Post
    They dont give a frak. They will use the "we dont support overclocking" excuse ANYTIME they can, especially to get out of fixing any type of issues.... Most, if not all MB manufacturers are the same way.... Its pretty weak to "advertise" the board as being able to support 1 thing, only for the end user to find that is doesnt.... Go figure.....
    We could ask them to show us some screen shots running 4 X 1 Giga Corsair 1250MHz 5-5-5-15 Memory on the rampage Formula. This memory is in the QVL.

    Don't ask me how they know that it's possible to run that stable without OverClocking.

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    Since this is a new BIOS that we're using I'm going to try it at 8 X 465MHz with DDR 1117MHz and tRD 7. I'll run some Linx tests to see if I can get it stable with this BIOS.

    If I can get it stable with these settings we'll never get it stable with DDR 1293MHz and tRD 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Grey View Post
    Since this is a new BIOS that we're using I'm going to try it at 8 X 465MHz with DDR 1117MHz and tRD 7. I'll run some Linx tests to see if I can get it stable with this BIOS.

    If I can get it stable with these settings we'll never get it stable with DDR 1293MHz and tRD 6.
    Wasn't that obvious much earlier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Grey View Post
    You can find it on this page.
    I get errors already on the 2nd pass.

    Weird

    Reboot the PC run Linx and BSOD as soon as i press the test button to start
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuebk View Post
    Wasn't that obvious much earlier?
    No, it wasn't because nobody could have known that the problem is the CPU and NB Clock Skew.

    I did my job today to finish my testings with this BIOS. You can find everything on this page: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Formula&page=2

    Shame on ASUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_rtr View Post
    I get errors already on the 2nd pass.

    Weird

    Reboot the PC run Linx and BSOD as soon as i press the test button to start
    Are you still using BIOS 0902?

    If so move back to BIOS 0803. You'll never get a 100% stable system with BIOS 0902.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Grey View Post
    Are you still using BIOS 0902?

    If so move back to BIOS 0803. You'll never get a 100% stable system with BIOS 0902.
    Iam on 0803. This is the weird part.
    Following some more tests last night i have issues, BSOD with Small FTT now, on the same settings that i have been running this M/B since few months back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_rtr View Post
    Iam on 0803. This is the weird part.
    Following some more tests last night i have issues, BSOD with Small FTT now, on the same settings that i have been running this M/B since few months back.

    I am going to buy a Mac!
    Maybe one of your memory sticks is bad. Run some memory tests to be sure.

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    So, A-Grey , is 0803 better according to u?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedBull1985 View Post
    So, A-Grey , is 0803 better according to u?
    Yes it's better. We don't need the DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B fix. We can't run anything 100% stable with BIOS 0902.
    With BIOS 0803 we can at least run our system stable with the OverClock that we are using.

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    I had a lot of fun with BIOS 0902 but I flashed it back to BIOS 0803.

    BIOS 0902 tastes for more. If ASUS decides to fix the problem with BIOS 0902 we might have the BIOS that we all want on our ASUS Rampage Formula.

    Running Linx at 8 X 465MHz, 2 X 2 Giga DDR 1117MHz and tRD 7 with only 1.35V for the NB. Sure would like to see that running 100% stable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Grey View Post
    Running Linx at 8 X 465MHz, 2 X 2 Giga DDR 1117MHz and tRD 7 with only 1.35V for the NB. Sure would like to see that running 100% stable.
    Do you mean your ocz or gskills?
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg.m View Post

    Do you mean your ocz or gskills?
    With my G.SKILL Memory. I sold my OCZ Memory.

    Did you pass MemTest at DDR 1239MHz with your G.SKILL Memory in BIOS 0902?

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    Well here i am with some new tests. I tried 490x8 because i didnt want to press cpu a lot with - biossets - 1.49nbv, 1,44vtt, 2.04ramv@1225pl7. While Primeing95small and after i had done 1and a half cycle, the system just freezed. I suppose that it has something to do with nbv and/or fsbv or even ramv. Any ideas?



    BTW, any voltsuggestions for running 500fsb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Grey View Post
    With my G.SKILL Memory. I sold my OCZ Memory.

    Did you pass MemTest at DDR 1239MHz with your G.SKILL Memory in BIOS 0902?
    No and with exactly your settings i got memtest error @ only 5% of first cycle, so i gave up and now im trying with higher fsb to gain some performance. But i started from zero with the bios settings.

    Ill go back to 0803 and test again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg.m View Post
    Well here i am with some new tests. I tried 490x8 because i didnt want to press cpu a lot with - biossets - 1.49nbv, 1,44vtt, 2.04ramv@1225pl7. While Primeing95small and after i had done 1and a half cycle, the system just freezed. I suppose that it has something to do with nbv and/or fsbv or even ramv. Any ideas?



    BTW, any voltsuggestions for running 500fsb?
    I'm almost sure that the problem is either to tight PL or to low vDDR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg.m View Post
    No and with exactly your settings i got memtest error @ only 5% of first cycle, so i gave up and now im trying with higher fsb to gain some performance. But i started from zero with the bios settings.

    Ill go back to 0803 and test again.
    Whatever I'm trying in BIOS 0902 I'm always with the wrong CPU and NB Clock Skew.

    With CPU Clock Skew Delay 100ps and NB Clock Skew Delay 100ps I did better in Linx with dropping the NB Voltage. My best score was at 1.35V. I could do 9 passes. I lowered it to 1.33V and It fails after the first pass.

    Strange that with lowering the NB voltage Linx runs longer stable but it can be stranger.

    With CPU Clock Skew Normal and NB Clock Skew Normal I did better with raising the NB Voltage. My best score was exactly 9 passes again with 1.43V.
    I raised it to 1.45V and I fail Linx in the first pass again.

    Maybe we need to buy one of those new CPU's to run with this BIOS.

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    Ive already ordered 2 more RAMPAGE and 3 of those NEW CPUS which bios 0902 supports
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg.m View Post
    Ive already ordered 2 more RAMPAGE and 3 of those NEW CPUS which bios 0902 supports
    Do it Do it Do it...

    Stop.
    Guys , dont put ides on his head. He is spending god know how much on this PC...
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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_rtr View Post
    Do it Do it Do it...

    Stop.
    Guys , dont put ides on his head. He is spending god know how much on this PC...
    His cash, he can do whatever he wants with it - no point in disputing about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_rtr View Post
    Do it Do it Do it...

    Stop.
    Guys , dont put ides on his head. He is spending god know how much on this PC...
    HELP IM ADDICTED
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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Grey View Post
    Maybe one of your memory sticks is bad. Run some memory tests to be sure.
    i run a double instance on the mem test, pass 110% and no errors!

    put default settings and initital results with linkx where stable but had to stop the test at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuebk View Post
    His cash, he can do whatever he wants with it - no point in disputing about this.
    Het got a 1500W PCU only to blow it on the 2nd reboot.

    I will start a shop and sell him computer parts!
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