is 1901 bios better than 1307 ? i own an A2 M2F
is 1901 bios better than 1307 ? i own an A2 M2F
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Seems to be a tad bit better, offers dual/quad vid card support..
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Thats Great Grnfinger, nice overclocks on this board. The first thing I notice is it isn't running 1:1 - if there are more 12:10 results with prime95 9+hr pics with those settings I think I would change my opinion about the board.
wooot nice bandwith
@evo: did you made a real killer bios with sli ?
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Ok guys, I've grown sick and tired of waiting for Asus to release a decent bios for this board, so I've started making my own Bios.....1910
Mind you, I've never done such a thing before, and I started "simple" by using the memory table and the p6 micro code table from the P5Q PRO TURBO bios. That board officially supports DDR2-1300 vs DDR2-1200 on the MIIF. Hopefully by doing so, higher memory clocks will be possible and _MAYBE_ pull-ins will be fixed. I'm really enjoying this mini-project though, so I'll look into more modding options for this board, so that we can finally use it's full power. I've just finished making it, and flashing it onto my own board, but I haven't got time to test it right now. Hopefully I'll have some time to test it tomorrow.
For those interested, I'll upload the bios file for you guys to beta-test it. HOWEVER, I AM NOT HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY POTENTIAL DAMAGE CAUSED TO YOUR BOARD BY FLASHING IT WITH THIS COSTUM BIOS. The risks of trying this shouldn't be very high, though, since this board has 2 different bios chips.
Please report back with the following information:
Compared to Vanilla 1901 Bios, does
1) Your Ram clock higher/lower/same?
2) Your CPU clock higher/lower/same?
3) Do Pull-ins work?
Thank you very much for providing me with this data.
And here's the link. Remember: I am not held responsible for ANY damage caused by using this costum bios.
http://rapidshare.com/files/227276368/MIIF-1910.zip
Hey Greg sorry I miss'd your post...nice to see you around.
I gotta pile of paper work on my desk, let me clear a few things and I'll load your profile on my wifes rig and see what I can tweak.
What brand of ram are you running, link would be handy...
And whats your budget for i7, lots of boards some will cost you your first born child but are worth it, EVGA Classified is what I'm going to grab. got my 2 kids on craigslist now
Musho,
I tested your BIOS, all seems OK but the pull-ins don't work. I doubt it's as simple as that, must be part of the BIOS code itself, not the add-ons/ROMs. In fact perhaps the pull-ins work but the GUI in the MIIF BIOS is just not setup to save their values. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm right.
Can I suggest if/when you make BIOS changes you use the latest modded BIOS as your base. In the BIOS you provided you haven't changed the ROM's for ICHR10R, network boot, CPU microcode etc.
As this moment in time the latest modded BIOS (with the updated ROMs) is by E.V.O. version 201, see http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L0SV3IN8
Also, one other thing, you forgot to update the date of the BIOS build. Your build dates back to December 2008. Purely cosmetic but for someone from the outside it would act as an aid to determining older/newer BIOS versions. As it stands he/she would get confused by the newer BIOS version 1910 yet older build date.
Last edited by GFORCE100; 04-30-2009 at 01:29 AM.
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I was in a rush yesterday, since I was going out with some friends I'll redo the mod on EVO's modded bios today or tomorrow. I will fix the date then as well. How does the bios perform with the new tables, though? Are you able to achieve higher RAM/CPU clocks? If it's not improving anything, I'll have to take a look at different tables from other mobos. Thanks for the info.
Edit: Ket has done a lot of modding on the P5Q-series mobos, on which the pull-ins didn't work either. He accidentally fixed the pull-ins before by importing memory tables from other mobos, so if the problem with pull-ins on the MIIF is the same problem as on the P5Q-series mobos, there was a slight chance of this fixing them. Guess we're out of luck though I'm still interested if there's an improvement in clocking, though!
Edit2: Where can I find a list of E.V.O.'s modded bioses? I'd like to take a look at them, purely for learning purposes
Last edited by Musho; 04-30-2009 at 03:51 AM.
EVO's BIOS's are somewhere in this thread, currently three versions (perhaps around page 125-135 if not lost when these forums suffered endless downtime). You can also find them on his German website but I forgot the link. Forumdeluxx I think, somewhere on there, he has a whole thread on the MIIF if I remember correctly - all in German naturally.
Well if such attempts fixed the pull-ins on the P5Q then don't give up so soon, try various memory tables, who knows, perhaps success is within reach after all. It would seem bizarre that the issue of it not working on the P5Q is different to the MIIF, after all both are P45 boards and developed at the same time. Of course my logical thinking might be completely absurd.
I wonder, what does it take to be a BIOS team manger at Asus, what are Asus's requirements during the interview because somehow I don't think they check the integrity of such individuals almost at all. Either that or they hire wonderful managers that don't get to have their say because for example the marketing manager gets to tell the BIOS manager what he/she must do - the latter is no more than a human robot fed input. Sad but possibly true, hence our suffering.
I'll see if it clocks better later today.
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Here's a link to evo's latest BIOS. I just uploaded it to my rapidshare account since I don't remember where in this thread it was posted.
http://rapidshare.com/files/227506620/MIIF-1901.201.rom
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Grnfinger I think you're really Xtrem to waste such time on this mobo with those poor bios ^^
The MIIF is still my LANrig and don't makes me laugh with that max 666 ram or lil better :/
But I wanna know if someone has checked that moded bios which gives the support of the SLI
...is it a fake or what ? It works ? It rocks ?? Just seen it appears thanks to SimoniX (by PM)
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Well I wouldnt call it a waste of time, I actually enjoy myself, as for teh bios's if your referring to the "modded" bios I dont touch them, maybe if they would actually test them first and report/post there own findings I would try them out but why the hell would I load there bios if they wont even try it themselves...
I would have a great deal more respect if they were tested by the modder and the results were posted. As I have yet to see a single result from a modded bios.
As for SLI??? if I wanted it I wouldnt have bought a P45 board
Hello. Im new here and i need some help with my pc. I have a new pc build with Q9650 Maximus II Formula EVGA GTX 285 and Corsair Dominator 2x2GB 1066MHz. When i turn on ram test on everest i have this :
Here are my bios settings. Im using 1901
http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0226b.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0227r.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0228n.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0229p.jpg
Sorry for my bad English. And Please Help Me.
Try the settings I posted at http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=3413
You will need to find the right VCore/PLL/VTT/NB for your CPU/Motherboard to be stable at 4.05GHz but this will no doubt not prove a problem, you just need to experiment.
The only problem might be your RAM, whether it can do 1200MHz, it's worth a shot. Up your DRAM voltage to higher than mine if need be.
Don't be annoyed if you can't get stability straight away, simply experiment with the voltages and use Linx and Prine95 and MS Memory Diagnostics Test (if you have Vista installed just press F8). It's best to not boot-up into Windows if you're unsure whether your PC is stable, henceforth do testing in this order 1) Microsoft Diagnosics Tool, 2) LinX (I do 50 loops all RAM) and 3) Prime95 SmallFFT/LargeFFT.
If you get the above stable and fall back to your desktop when playing a game then simply up the NB voltage a little more - it happened to me in AOEIII.
Some guidelines for the voltages:
VCore: 1.3V
PLL: 1.55V
VTT: 1.35V
NB: 1.35V
DRAM: 2.15-2.35V
Keep a check at your CPU temps using CoreTemp (Google for it). Also not sure what CPU cooling you have, the standard Intel cooler won't work at 4.05GHz.
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+ Windows XP Professional x64
+ Samsung 275T
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I don't understand that corsair says this is PC8500 so why i must overclock something to have that ?
My friend from steam is using Maximus II Formula and Corsair Dominator but 2x1GB and he have good readings
http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?i...orsyfriend.jpg
I also have some problems with turning my pc ON in morning. When i press power button i only see DET DRAM on lcd poster and i must remove one memory and turn it on and off and place it back.
Last edited by Rosti; 05-01-2009 at 04:18 AM. Reason: Add:
Your friend's using a 400MHz FSB Vs 333MHz which you're using. He's also on a different memory divider. He's overclocked his system to put it short.
PC2-8500 refers to the number of MB/s in theory that the memory is designed to transfer (its read bandwidth capability). In other words 8.5GB/s when run at 1066MHz effective or 533MHz true speed. You'll never get that when paired with an also 1066MHz effective FSB as there's a lot of other traffic that gets sent over the FSB (such as control data) which consumes some of the bandwidth but also delays data transfers from the memory to the CPU. One must also account for the latency to access the MCH by the CPU before the latter starts the data transfer (or completes the write request). This is hence the same for memory write and copy performance.
So to put this into some easy to grasp perspective, your friend's 1600MHz effective FSB supports up to 12.8GB/s bandwidth hence why his RAM at 1066MHz releases its full potential being clocked at 1066MHz effective. If you were to run your CPU also at a 400MHz FSB (1600MHz effective) (perhaps using his settings as a starting point - if he's stable) and a 7.5 multiplier then you could keep your 3GHz processor speed yet get the extra memory bandwidth from the boosted FSB. On a 333MHz FSB your theoretical maximum memory throughput is 10.6GB/s minus all the overhead. It may seem to you that hey, so that means if I'm only getting about 7700MB/s read out of a maximum of 10600MB/s that suggests the overhead is a massive 2900MB/s. The answer is yes but your BIOS isn't even tuned, go and play with your AI Twister settings from weak to stronger and you'll see what I mean for example. Of course, it would be advisable to test stability but as you're not overclocking you should be good to go.
As for your power on problem, you shouldn't really leave every single BIOS setting on auto as nothing yet beats the human brain. I would increase your DRAM/NB voltage slightly and see if that helps to start off with.
P.S Don't assume your friend's BIOS is tuned either, he's got the opposite situation to what you have, his FSB is overload for his RAM setting, if he only increased his RAM speed he would observe instant visible gains in read/write/copy memory performance. Consequently, if he ran his RAM at say 1200MHz (possible) on a 400MHz FSB he would be getting read performance (assuming AI Twister set to strong) of about 9100MB/s and latency of about 53.5ns.
Last edited by GFORCE100; 05-01-2009 at 05:24 AM.
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OK i now understand But i wounder why i can't turn my pc ON when im not usning it for about 10 hours. I only See DET DRAM on lcd poster and i must remove one ram.(1x2GB) and next turn it off and add ram (2x2GB). And what cooler will be good for Q9650 for overclocking to ~ 3.6GHz . Thx for help and sorry for my bad english im still learning.
Use the template below to fill in your settings, it's easier this way for others to view rather than clicking numerous photos.
Re-read my above post slower, I make reference there about what I would do firsthand with the DET RAM error.
In regards to the cooler, many people are in love with the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme but I myself hate how it's attached to the motherboard hence recommend the Noctua NH-U12P. The latter cooler can be removed without taking the motherboard out of your case each time. Either of these coolers need a 2000rpm or higher speed 120mm fan for best performance. You'll need to remove your motherboard upfront to install their CPU socket bracket, thankfully in the case of the Noctua as noted above, this only needs to be performed once.
1st Information:
CAS# Latency: Auto
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: Auto
DRAM RAS# Precharge: Auto
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: Auto
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto
2nd Information:
Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto
3rd Information:
Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction Booster: Auto
Common Performance Level: Auto
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Enabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Enabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Enabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Enabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Enabled
PCIE Frequency: 100
CPU Voltage: Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto
FSB Termination Voltage: Auto
DRAM Voltage: Auto
North Bridge Voltage: Auto
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: Auto
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: Auto
CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto
CPU Configuration:
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Enabled
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+ BFG Tech 9800GTX+ OC @ 760/1890/2250
+ 4x150GB Raptor X in RAID0 via Adaptec 2405 SAS/SATA
+ Samsung SH-203B
+ Chieftec CFT-850-14C
+ Thermalright 120 Ultra Extreme 2000rpm
+ Windows XP Professional x64
+ Samsung 275T
Laptop Memory UK
Hi guru's of OC...
Linpack: Failed 8 out of 10. Temps are fine. With linpack didn't go above 50C.
Core 1 and Core 2 where 61C max.
Tried to play with the voltages.. but no luck.
Can't figure out whats wrong...
Thanks in advance.
These are my settings for e8400.
Code:Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual OC From CPU Level Up: Auto Ratio CMOS Setting: 8 FSB Frequency: 500 CPU Clock Skew: Normal NB Clock Skew: Normal FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333MHz DRAM Frequency: 1002Mhz DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Normal DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Normal DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Normal DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Normal DRAM Timing Control: Manual 1st Info: 5-5-5-15-3-40-6-3 2nd Info: 8-3-5-4-6-4-6 3rd Info: 14-5-1-5-5 DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled DRAM Read Training: Enabled MEM. OC Charger: disabled Ai Clock Twister: Moderate Ai Transaction Booster : Manual Common Performance Level [10] Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled PCIE Frequency : 100 CPU Voltage: 1.3875 CPU PLL Voltage:1.51325 FSB Termination Voltage:1.31200 DRAM Voltage: 2.22400 North Bridge Voltage:1.36500 South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.5 South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.1 CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto NB GTL Reference: Auto DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto CPU Configuration: Ratio CMOS Setting: 9 C1E Support: Disabled Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled CPU TM Function: Enabled Execute Disable Bit: Enabled Load-Line Calibration: Disabled CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
E8400@4.0Ghz, Water Cooled
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try this....
First enable Enable load line calibration and retest, vdroop could be your problem...if it still fails then try the following
CPU Clock Skew : Delay 100ps
CPU GTL Reference 0 : -40mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : -40mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : Auto
If its still crapping out you will need more PLL or vcore
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