ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[GFORCE100]

After checking my settings with yours the only difference is FSB Strap, I dial mine in a 333 and you use auto....I thank you for the information I might have another go with this board b4 I shelf it as my backup

Set your tRFC setting to 30 clocks instead of auto or 42-55 clocks as you probably have now and you'll get your latency down another 0.3ns to 51.2ns like mine since at the moment you're a little higher at 51.5ns. My memory doesn't need more voltage to do this so your's shouldn't too (given it's the name Micron chips under the heat spreader no doubt).

[Grnfinger]

Set your tRFC setting to 30 clocks instead of auto or 42-55 clocks as you probably how now and you'll get your latency down another 0.3ns to 51.2ns like mine since at the moment you're a little higher at 51.5ns. My memory doesn't need more voltage to do this so yours shouldn't too (given it's the name Micron chips under the heat spreader no doubt).

Will play around tonight after work, never thought I would get the ram over 1200

[karamell]

Hi guru's of the e8400 C2D OC ....

Can't figure out why it wont boot anymore. This settings worked for me like 2 days, and now it's just DET DRAM
It's working on 3.6Ghz (24/7), but i want to reach min 4Ghz or more....

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : 7.5
FSB Frequency : 533
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333mhz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto

DRAM Timing Control: Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [11] Tried with 10, DET DRAM....

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : Auto
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
FSB Term : Auto
DRAM Voltage : 2.2
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : Auto
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : Auto

Load Line Calibration : Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[Kayso]

Hi guru's of the e8400 C2D OC ....
Can't figure out why it wont boot anymore. This settings worked for me like 2 days, and now it's just DET DRAM
It's working on 3.6Ghz (24/7), but i want to reach min 4Ghz or more....

What I see is, that all you voltages are on AUTO
You will never overclock your PC with voltages on auto.

Try this one:

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 533
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333MHz
DRAM Frequency: 1066

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Enabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 101

CPU Voltage: I don't know what vcore will need your CPU, but try with 1.4 as a start, if that doesn't work, bump three steps up
CPU PLL Voltage:1.55
FSB Termination Voltage:1.325
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
North Bridge Voltage:1.4
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.55
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.15

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[Grnfinger]

460FSB PL7 nothing tweaked

[Grnfinger]

465FSB PL7

[screwtech02]

Nice Grn!!!

[GFORCE100]

465FSB PL7

Grnfinger, when you finish playing around with my BIOS settings let us know if you made any changes or found out anything better.

So what's the verdict? First agnostic about the MFII supporting 1200+ DDR2 and now an avid advocate I see...happy too!!

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger, when you finish playing around with my BIOS settings let us know if you made any changes or found out anything better.

So what's the verdict? First agnostic about the MFII supporting 1200+ DDR2 and now an avid advocate I see...happy too!!

idk, after playing with your settings it has opend this board up alot more, Im actually having fun instead of banging my head.
I'm still going to do a head to head against the Rampage ( still waiting on mosfet blocks) b4 I decide, but I suddenly have a new respect for this board

Wife is ing about the yard needs raking, so I have to get that done then I'll be back to try and squeeze 1250MHz out of these sticks, once I see how far I can push the ram I will try to find a max stable setting.


Some Corsair goodness

[Etihtsarom]

Sorry but I've not really followed your problems with this board Grnfinger. Your sig indicates the board seems to do well for you aside from hitting 600FSB? On this note, what is the BIOS version that allows you to change the RAM ratio? I want to move out of the 1:1 to take advantage of my RAM's speed since it is only running at 1040 or so. Im on 1307 BIOS.

[Grnfinger]

Sorry but I've not really followed your problems with this board Grnfinger. Your sig indicates the board seems to do well for you aside from hitting 600FSB? On this note, what is the BIOS version that allows you to change the RAM ratio? I want to move out of the 1:1 to take advantage of my RAM's speed since it is only running at 1040 or so. Im on 1307 BIOS.

I use bios 1901, to change any ram dividers/MHz you want to select these 2 options

FSB Strap to North Bridge :
DRAM Frequency:

I havent had any real problems, just I was dissapointed with this board ALOT..
GFORCE100 was kind enough to offer some advice on breaking 1200MHz with my ram something I could do on other boards but not this one..after following his advice I have broke 1200MHz and have a little more respect for the board than I previously had..

[karamell]

What I see is, that all you voltages are on AUTO
You will never overclock your PC with voltages on auto.

Try this one:

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 533
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333MHz
DRAM Frequency: 1066

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Enabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 101

CPU Voltage: I don't know what vcore will need your CPU, but try with 1.4 as a start, if that doesn't work, bump three steps up
CPU PLL Voltage:1.55
FSB Termination Voltage:1.325
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
North Bridge Voltage:1.4
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.55
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.15

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Tried to play with these settings with NO success. Can't go further then 3.6Ghz at 9x400

[Grnfinger]

Tried to play with these settings with NO success. Can't go further then 3.6Ghz at 9x400

Post your current stable setup, E8400 should do 4.0GHz easy
We can make suggestion from there, I have the chip I can run a few setups for you if you like...

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger, when you finish playing around with my BIOS settings let us know if you made any changes or found out anything better.
So what's the verdict? First agnostic about the MFII supporting 1200+ DDR2 and now an avid advocate I see...happy too!!

After playing and tweaking I have found my ram tops out at 1240MHz, I suppose if I cranked the volts I could get a few more drops...
5-5-5-15 offers little gains in terms of bandwidth or latancy, and using 5-5-5-18 got me a few more MHz
PL7 works all the way up to 470FSB, could not test higher cause my ram couldnt do it..AI Clock Twister set to stronger required 1.50 vNB for it to boot in to vista way too much volts for 24/7...strong required 1.40 @ 465FSB.450FSB your settings of 1.35vNB were more than enough.
Would have been nice to have had Phase Pullin's working to reduce Latancy and improve bandwidth but this is not meant to be on this board...
I thank you again GFORCE100 for sharing your settings, this will make the rampage comparison alot more interesting

1240MHz was the max on this board, I booted 1250 but it crashed 3 times when trying to start everest bench ...

[screwtech02]

Man, were did you get your mosfet blocks from, i thought you ordered em last week or so???

[Grnfinger]

I did, I got them from an XS member I think he sent them via pony express

[karamell]

Post your current stable setup, E8400 should do 4.0GHz easy
We can make suggestion from there, I have the chip I can run a few setups for you if you like...

Here are my 24/7 3.6Ghz settings.

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 400
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400MHz
DRAM Frequency: 800

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
1st Info: 5-5-5-16-3-42-6-3
2nd Info: 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
3rd Info: 14-5-1-5-5

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage: 1.375
CPU PLL Voltage:1.56
FSB Termination Voltage:1.35
DRAM Voltage: 1.9
North Bridge Voltage:1.39
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.5
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.1

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[Grnfinger]

500X8 1200MHz Ram PL8

[Furiøùs]

I haven't bothered to mess with my rig anymore.

450x9 with 1088 on the ram 5-5-5-15.

NB atm idles at 50c, damn summer. waiting on an antec spotcool so I can put a fan on the NB. Damn GPU (GTX295) is hitting 90c in CoD WaW with fan speed manually at 80%..

Was not prepared for summer at all

I gave up on 485fsb, I had it for a while.. my Vista got corrupted or something while I was under that OC, and when I used to boot in sometimes Vista would schedule manual disk-checks and find errors and delete and restore files..
It was a mess to say the least. Haven't bothered to try messing with it after that..

It's too hot now anyway, I'm at 1.31v on the NB, I needed 1.36v for 485fsb, so i'd hit over 60c on the NB while gaming.. It's already hitting 59c in GTA4.

[screwtech02]

Grn, your makin me want to re-install my MIIF, why is it that you can get better bandwidth with the P45 over the X38/48... My Rampage is a good solid board, but it seems that my MIIF, performed better... Maybe its just me....

[Grnfinger]

I haven't bothered to mess with my rig anymore.

450x9 with 1088 on the ram 5-5-5-15.

NB atm idles at 50c, damn summer. waiting on an antec spotcool so I can put a fan on the NB. Damn GPU (GTX295) is hitting 90c in CoD WaW with fan speed manually at 80%..

Was not prepared for summer at all

I gave up on 485fsb, I had it for a while.. my Vista got corrupted or something while I was under that OC, and when I used to boot in sometimes Vista would schedule manual disk-checks and find errors and delete and restore files..
It was a mess to say the least. Haven't bothered to try messing with it after that..




It's too hot now anyway, I'm at 1.31v on the NB, I needed 1.36v for 485fsb, so i'd hit over 60c on the NB while gaming.. It's already hitting 59c in GTA4.

You should look at water cooling, My 4870X2 idles at a cool 35c load never sees above 50-55c. MY NB idles at 28-35 depending on volts and load is 45 tops, once I add the second rad I hope to reduce temps a few more degrees.
450x9 is a decnt clock, nothing to be upset over, but if heat is holding you back, I would look at the investment it is well worth it.

Grn, your makin me want to re-install my MIIF, why is it that you can get better bandwidth with the P45 over the X38/48... My Rampage is a good solid board, but it seems that my MIIF, performed better... Maybe its just me....

I know are chips are different but run a 450x8 1081, no pullins enabled...
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

And we can compare the bandwidth at a modest overclock...
In all honesty, last week I wouldnt piss on this board if were on fire, now suddenly I get a warm fuzzy feeling when I walk past him, maybe its the beer and morphine ( hurt my back last week and my Dr. is a pill pusher), idk but I'm liking the board once again

[GFORCE100]

Why are you guys overly sensitive about the NB temps? They're designed to cope with way more than 60C, that's a walk in the park on a summer day for a NB. If it was 100C then yes you should be concerned but it will never top that even now as summer approaches.

Somehow you don't seem to notice how hot your GPU's are running at idle let alone in GTA4 or other games. It's 50-60C at idle and 70-80C (sometimes more) under load.

C2D/C2Q's won't throttle unless they are run at 90C or more (their core temps) for a longer period of time (can't remember how many minutes it is). If you want overclocks at say around 4.2GHz then sure, you need water or very loud 3000rpm 120mm fans on a TRUE/IFX-14/12UP cooler. At anything lower you don't really need water unless you have a low VID C2Q which are renown to be hotter than their higher VID rivals as the resistors get hotter (higher resistance needed to set lower VID).

A human being would get a heart attack if put in a room at 60-70C, sure, but this is different, electronics spend most of their lives staying hot. There are PC's out there that date 20 years or more that have been turned on ever since new, and still work. Yup 386 DX's and early 486SX/DX's, and those didn't need a fan on the 4x4cm socket 2/3 heatsink either.

I say no need to be concerned with the temps, 60-70-80 is OK under load - sure lower is better but don't loose sleep over it. Instead enjoy GTA4 and your youth at college/university because let me tell you, the older you get the less time you get for such pleasant things in life - so enjoy, the processor/north bridge/GPU will last longer that the duration of a journey on foot from NYC to Sacramento (over and over). ......providing you don't put 1.8V in say a 45nm IC (like for like as trying to breathe with a hairdryer blowing in your face in human terms - even from a distance).

[Aavikkokettu]

Hello.
I have Asus Maximus II Formula and i get this week my QX9650 and i wonder should i put the latest BIOS 1901 or 1802 for overclocking? I try to find if i can rise cpu voltage little bit small steps than this 1307 BIOS can do.

[ndGreg]

Been busy and now ready to get back to work on this overclocking.
E8400 running stable 24/7 @ 3.6ghz, but still need to tune some others off of auto.
Heres my current settings and temps:

Ai Overclock Tuner Manual
OC From CPU Level Up Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting 9.0
FSB Frequency 400
CPU Clock Skew Normal
NB Clock Skew Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge 333
DRAM Frequency DDR2-961MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1 Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2 Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1 Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2 Auto
DRAM Timing Control Manual

CAS# Latency 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge 5
DRAM RAS# Active to Precha 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time 55
Write Recovery Time 6
Read to Precharge Time 3

READ to WRITE Delay(S/D) 8
Write to Read Delay(S) 3
WRITE to READ Delay(D) 5
READ to READ Delay(S) 4
READ to READ Delay(D) 6
WRITE to WRITE Delay(S) 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay(D) 6

WRITE to PRE Delay 14
READ to PRE Delay 5
PRE to PRE Delay 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay 5

DRAM Static Read Control Enabled
DRAM Read Training Disabled
MEM. OC Charger Manual
Ai Clock Twister Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster Manual

Pull-in of CHA 1 Disabled
Pull-in of CHA 2 Disabled
Pull-in of CHA 3 Disabled
Pull-in of CHA 4 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 1 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 2 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 3 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 4 Disabled

Common Performance 8

PCIE Frequency 101

CPU Voltage 1.275
CPU PLL Voltage 1.553
FSB Termination Voltage 1.312
DRAM Voltage 2.10475
North Bridge Voltage 1.45775
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage 1.5
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage 1.1

CPU GTL Reference(0) Auto
CPU GTL Reference(1) -40mv
CPU GTL Reference(2) Auto
CPU GTL Reference(3) -40mv

NB GTL Reference -60mv
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference Auto

Load-Line Calibration Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum Disabled

Tempertures: Idle/ Load
Motherboard: 38/44
CPU: 27/51
CPU Core 1: 32/56
CPU Core 2: 32/56
Northbridge: 49/56
Southbridge: 44/48
GPU: 38/38

Hope to get this board running even better. As this summer I will be moving on to the i7.
Do you have any suggestions on a Mobo for the i7?

[unclewebb]

I gave up on 485fsb, I had it for a while.. my Vista got corrupted or something while I was under that OC, and when I used to boot in sometimes Vista would schedule manual disk-checks and find errors and delete and restore files..

I had Vista bite me in the ass once or twice because of an automatic check disk. In my case, I had XP on a separate drive so Vista decided it would be a good idea to take ownership of every file on the XP disk and completely borked XP so I couldn't boot up any more. Trying to recover XP after this nightmare was worse than any virus you can imagine.

Here's a good solution:

http://www.windowsreference.com/wind...rtup-in-vista/

It's easy to disable chkdsk so you don't have to worry about it fixing things for you.