Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post
where did you get that info about the gtz being the best? the gtz sucks...

the ek supreme beats the gtz in martins review...skinne's review will show that too..and Hesmelaughs review shows the gtz trails the supreme...even i tested it...

read the reviews...

some are in the stickies and some aren't stickied good luck finding them. or i hope someone links it.

if you want the best for the i7, read the reviews. oh yeah read gabe's review, alot like that review
Giving advice based on your own tests is fine. Claiming a product "sucks" because it performs 1-2 degrees worse than other blocks is a bit much but not out of line. But making insinuations that someones tests are laughable when that person is clearly more than credible and experienced in water cooling is insulting to him and anyone else who performs an honest test and gets different results than you.

Gabe freely and openly allows it to be known he is the owner of Swiftech unlike former and current members on this site who are secretly affiliated with a company and push those companies products under the mask of a mere customer who "swears" the product is the BEST.

Gabe has never made it a secret that h is the owner of Swiftech and he's been a member for quite some time. In addition he knows there are many water cool savy members who can easily perform tests as well, if not better than him so for him to attempt to pass faulty results on the members of this site is a gross insult to him or anyone of average intelligence. Duplicate his exact test and if you get significantly different results, let us know otherwise respect his results as he has respected yours.

Quote Originally Posted by IanY View Post
Anyone who says X brand block is the best and all trail X brand block is talking through their exhaust catalytic convertor. The single biggest influencing factor for all of you is how a block looks, and most of you don't even have the gumption to admit that. The tests are more often than not driven by preconceived notions and agenda strewn.
The absolute truth. All of the sudden Swiftech has gotten too "mainstream" and too easy for those damn noobs to use so now using a product that is much more difficult to install and doesnt even have an english language website is "cool".

Quote Originally Posted by shazza View Post
From the reviews I've seen (as mentioned by hondacity), the GTZ consistently performs a couple of degrees "worse" than several of those mentioned. HOWEVER ... it is extremely easy to mount, and that may be important to some. I like it because I can change out my loop or reseat the block without having to get to the back of the motherboard.
And ease of mounting as well as price and support all need to be taken into account. Is the HK worth the additional $50 with backplate for 2 degrees? Maybe so, but at $50 cheaper and 2 degrees worse, the GTZ is still a top block.

And no, I don't have a GTZ or an HK.