DFI LP UT X58-T3EH8 - First bench, bios screens etc

[cstkl1]

what does it show on the POST screen, if it also shows 4 gigs then it is your vtt...

read all this post

he said it happens at stock and one stick testing shows one stick dead

[Sam_oslo]

I'm trying to download RAID Utility for ICH10R Vista 64bits (File Intel_Matrix_ICH10R.zip), but the link is broken on DFI site (0kb). My DVD-drive could never read the DVD which came with med board either. Any idea where else i can get this file?

EDIT:
The manual is suggesting to use a floppy to install RAID-driver during the OS-setup,, "At this point you will be prompted to inser t a floppy disk containing the RAID driver. Insert the provided RAID driver diskett" :roleseyes:, . I didn't get a floppy with my board and don't have a floppydrive either. These files are avaliable for download, but anybody got around this with a USB-Penn?

[jcool]

I already had one 940 with a dead memory channel on the DFI, RMAing the CPU and putting a 920 in solved the 4GB issue.
So it might well be your CPU...

Still can't OC my D9GTR on the DFI by the way, at all. Even 1600 is highly unstable no matter the settings.
Seems like I need to get different mems...

[rusty]

I already had one 940 with a dead memory channel on the DFI, RMAing the CPU and putting a 920 in solved the 4GB issue.
So it might well be your CPU...

Still can't OC my D9GTR on the DFI by the way, at all. Even 1600 is highly unstable no matter the settings.
Seems like I need to get different mems...

how do you find if a channel is dead? or do you mean slot ?

[Sam_oslo]

Can it be broken pin on CPU-Socket?

I have seen a person with the same problem (on an ASUS P6T6). The system couldn't see more than 4GB (and he had 12GB). He discovered some broken pins (it wasn't easy to see it) on the CPU-socket, and sent it to RMA, and the new board could see all 12GB.

[The Watcher]

Can it be broken pin on CPU-Socket?

I have seen a person with the same problem (on an ASUS P6T6). The system couldn't see more than 4GB (and he had 12GB). He discovered some broken pins (it wasn't easy to see it) on the CPU-socket, and sent it to RMA, and the new board could see all 12GB.

It was not the board or proc, Sam. i have an issue like that before with ASUS P6T Dlx and it was the bios. i have 6x1gb when i put it all sometime i see only 2gb and have to reboot to make it work and sometime a loot reboot neded.

[ChaosAD]

I think its the dimm thats dead because om friday i had 6gb and on saturday i had 4gb without removing anything from the board. So it cant be a broken pin from the cpu or mobo i guess.
And i also told u before that i also tried with 1 dimm at the time and the one couldnt boot at all.

[cstkl1]

well chaos talk to adata on the issue
especially this is their top of the line product.

[hugy]

Does somebody know how to change the pci voltage? On this board.

[ChaosAD]

Btw cstkl1 what are your settings for DDR3 2000c7? I managed to run adata 2000c8 with 1.65v and vtt 1.4v

[cstkl1]

Btw cstkl1 what are your settings for DDR3 2000c7? I managed to run adata 2000c8 with 1.65v and vtt 1.4v

well
set both
the channel rank 6 way
rank interleave 4 way
2n 7-8-7-20
vtt set 1.45v
dram at 1.665v (will undervolt to 1.636v)
ioh analogue 1.15v set
thats about it. oh yeah the weird part

memtest hci linx even gaming no problem etc will pass at 1.65v 7-8-7-20 1N. but
test 2 i like to call if the 4096 fft test of orthos will end up failing badly
hence the above.

wish the on the bios dfi has
dram round trip latency on chan A/B/C

helped a lot for r2e on tweaking 1N setting and lowering the vdimm.
so eva etc?? think dfi will do it?? and also the really wish the bios will actually show whats the auto setting is running at.
previous dfi x48 showed that sometimes memtset reading was not accurate

[sfxs]

I'm trying to download RAID Utility for ICH10R Vista 64bits (File Intel_Matrix_ICH10R.zip), but the link is broken on DFI site (0kb). My DVD-drive could never read the DVD which came with med board either. Any idea where else i can get this file?

DFI doesn't have anything special cooked into their drivers afaik; you can get the Intel drivers from Intel at: http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets...storage_sb.htm

Also, you can get the Realtek audio drivers direct from Realtek, likewise with Marvell/LAN - I am running all non-DFI provided drivers and it all works fine.

-sfxs

[cstkl1]

bios corruption

symptoms

1.suddenly my mem cannot run memtest hci etc,, infact any form of vtt overvolt results in bsod errors
2.noticed in default bios raid hdd was not detected which was on sata 3master, slave
but was detected only when i enable raid..

cause
cause was playing around with vtt voltage.

notes
stock works fine etc only on overvolting the vtt.

solution
flash the bios back to default

hope this helps with anyone with similar issue

[i7luver]

hey all my vdimm and vtt undervolts by quite a lot under SG, I set vdimm to 1.65 in bios, in windows SG it reports 1.61V and for VTT, I set 1.27V in bios, and in windows it becomes 1.21V in sG idle, and 1.23 V load. Which is a 0.6V difference when idle, this is quite a big difference isn't it? Are all DFI boards like that? Or is my SG maybe messed up or my board messed up? thanks!

[Sam_oslo]

DFI doesn't have anything special cooked into their drivers afaik; you can get the Intel drivers from Intel at: http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets...storage_sb.htm

Also, you can get the Realtek audio drivers direct from Realtek, likewise with Marvell/LAN - I am running all non-DFI provided drivers and it all works fine.

-sfxs

I wasn't sure if the file was exactly the same, but i did take the chance and got it from Intel's site. The driver installed fine, and seams to be working fine too, in my relief.

But finally i decided to run the Vertex in IDE-mode, because for some reason it was performing better than RAID-mode.

[GNU]

Core is, well the core. Uncore is everything NOT the core. I don't know the 100% specifics but it is your memory controller and cache for example...I think. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong with a better more specific definition.

Thank you.

[Peakr]

ah
its confirmed the board
cause sishh funny enough has seen this on on real experience
one r2e
one p6t deluxe
and two p6t.
and one ud4

dfi never knew this could happen.
but its the board bro.

only way u want to check easy test on another board
after seeing this a few times.. on stock voltages.. see it straight point and scream at the mobo

oh yeah just to double confirm
ure running in A1,B1,C1 right
the config is from the nearest to the cpu
A2,A1,B2,B1,C2,C1

Just had this issue happen to me. One of my ram modules just died. OCZ RPR1866CL9 6Gig Kit. Just got this settup running. I had bclk at 150 dram mult 8, uncore 16. Upped VTT a notch and Dram to 1.6, rebooted and only 4096 of ram. One had disappeared. Started running memtest86 2.11 in dos and sure enough one stick has continuous errors, other two are fine. So cstkl1 are you saying the board is damaging the ram?

[DiscoTech]

Can you give me your unbiased opinion on which one to get if you were making a purchase today?

Thanks in advance!

[CmB]

Can you give me your unbiased opinion on which one to get if you were making a purchase today?

Thanks in advance!

Not exactly the thread bt the Biostar has a somewhat poor rep. Great results have been had on the Giga and DFI. I have a DFi UT and will be buying the Giga UD5 or Extreme, there that close IMHO

[cstkl1]

Just had this issue happen to me. One of my ram modules just died. OCZ RPR1866CL9 6Gig Kit. Just got this settup running. I had bclk at 150 dram mult 8, uncore 16. Upped VTT a notch and Dram to 1.6, rebooted and only 4096 of ram. One had disappeared. Started running memtest86 2.11 in dos and sure enough one stick has continuous errors, other two are fine. So cstkl1 are you saying the board is damaging the ram?

wonder how u came up with that conclusion keke

no it was just those mobos mentioned.
it was faulty .
plugging in the ram to another mobo worked fine.

well not sure so far i've got 4 kits of tri-channel ram and none have koed..
mostly corsairs and mushkins.

[Peakr]

wonder how u came up with that conclusion keke

no it was just those mobos mentioned.
it was faulty .
plugging in the ram to another mobo worked fine.

well not sure so far i've got 4 kits of tri-channel ram and none have koed..
mostly corsairs and mushkins.

Sorry didn't understand you. Your English not so good...Guess I just have a bad stick of ram then. Time for RMA. And I just got this thing up and running. I had planned on tweaking this thing out today too. Sheesh!

[StimulatedBoy]

Recently ran into a LOT of CF pre-post messages and want to hear if any one have some insights they want to share with me. Running 1.5v Vcore, 1.52v VTT and 1,65v VDIMM. Issues started a couple of days after increasing VTT to 1.52. Have a singel stager...

[cstkl1]

Well i had a DMM soldered to the mobo read out points for 2 weeks. Was satisfied with the stability of the voltages.
They are perfect

What i was trying to point out was symptoms of a bios corruption
The reason being its kindda hard to detect it. Stock settings worked perfectly.

Vtt borders
Just like the r2e , the dfi also shows that crossing over a certain voltage on vtt, U might sometimes get weird initial results

Example
Stressing 1.43 set result in bsod
Up the voltage to 1.45v the computer does a shutdown reboot with no display. Shuting down manually and rebooting it.
problem solved.
But in occasions doing the exact two things above results in bios corruption.
so setting the 1.45v from default settings u dont get the issues above

Your Case
DId u have any problem with ram stress test and stock?? Did the bios detect full 6gb at stock voltages.
If yes than high chance is not the board, ram. Its either two things.
1.Ure voltages were incorrect ( take note not saying the voltages were insufficient)
2.IMC issues.


Elimination of voltages
For i7 you need to eliminate voltages on every scenario. Vcore, Vdimm ,Vtt, IOh.
They have also tendency for certain ratios. U have to identify them.

Examples of Faulty test
Also for my case using DMM i found that 1.65v is undervolted to 1.62v
Memtest HCI and memtest86+ , testing both of them for hours i had no issue running my rams at bclk 201 1004mhz CL7 1N.
However this failed to run prime95 blend 25.9 64bit. I was preplexed.
Issue was resolved by increasing the vdimm voltage set at 1.665v, DMM read was 1.639v and setting bclk 200 and rams at 2N.
After doing this i had very consistent results on any test i threw at it.

Not to Do
Basically so far any plug and play or just increasing voltages to solve test failures wont cut it for X58 when it comes to high uncore and faster dram speeds. Stressing at wrong voltage ratios itself can result in weird behaviours like what i had, missing rams etc. This is why whenever i see issues like this , i usually reset to default and reflash the bios. I find memtesthci is the best test for vtt and ioh ratio.
prime95 blend 64bit 25.9 for dram timings and voltages. linx for vcore.

[Peakr]

Like I said. I just got this thing running for about 30minutes when the problem occurred. Voltages were only raised a minor amount. CPU VTT raised from 1.21 in bios to 1.27. Dram raised from 1.55 to 1.6. Vcore untouched so far. Testing the ram with stock bios settings shows one stick has continuous errors in memtest86. The other two are fine. Tested all three sticks in same dimm slot. Dunno how but one stick was either DOA or something cooked it...At this point I'm leaning toward DOA. That would explain why I was crashing with such low ram and cpu speeds. No more ram to test with though already shipped it back.

[cstkl1]

Like I said. I just got this thing running for about 30minutes when the problem occurred. Voltages were only raised a minor amount. CPU VTT raised from 1.21 in bios to 1.27. Dram raised from 1.55 to 1.6. Vcore untouched so far. Testing the ram with stock bios settings shows one stick has continuous errors in memtest86. The other two are fine. Tested all three sticks in same dimm slot. Dunno how but one stick was either DOA or something cooked it...At this point I'm leaning toward DOA. That would explain why I was crashing with such low ram and cpu speeds. No more ram to test with though already shipped it back.

Well if its having memtest errors at stock for that particular stick. Then its a ram issue.