OnBoard Audio Feedback

[saaya]

i had a question prodding my mind .. if we're to o/c the fsb .. wont the onboard audio and onboard NIC overclocks as well? since it's onboard ..

there are several reference clocks that the clock generator provides, and most if not all of them are locked. i think audio uses the same 24/48mhz clock signal as the sb and usb. the sb uses several signals tho... sata and pciE have a base clock of 100 so they are usually on the same clock signal, but since mars we actually seperated it, so ocing pciE shouldnt affect sata at all.

Well i know its a bit off but would it be worth it to get the FB instead of the BR given it is available of course, if i use the computer for midcore not so frequent gaming, best chance i have is 295 sli although unlikely and most probably some bench?

the only difference between BloodRage and FlamingBlade for you will be that FlamingBlade might overclock a bit worse... it still has 2 pciE 16x slots arranged so that theres a pci slot and pciE x1 slot available even if you use 2 dual slot vgas...

FlamingBlade compared to BloodRage:
very good cpu pwm / way overpowered cpu pwm
very good mem pwm / way overpowered mem pwm
2 pciE 16x slots / 4 pciE 16x slots
1 pci slot / 2 pci slots
basic heatsink / modular tripple heatpipe 4in1 heatsink
onboard sound / seperate pcb card
realtek 889 / realtek 889 with xifi driver

the price difference between BR and FB and BR GTi and FB GTi are roughly 100$, so between BR and FB GTi its almost 150$... which is quite a lot you can save if you dont want/need all the above listed things BR boasts with.

And to not stay so off, i would really prefer the two troubleshooting "screens" on the mobo to be something like the LCD poster, and the sata to be like the BR helps with cable management for the few of us that dare think to use it for 24/7.

dont get what you mean regarding the lcd poster... sata ports, yes, i know, but FB was all about having the best bang for the bug...
and if you have a look at the layout, you will see that we pulled the sata ports up above the first 16x slot, so you can use all 6 ports without being blocked by the vga

http://www.generation-3d.com/UserImg...g_Blade_01.jpg

Also the link you requested from asus's official website:
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...12&modelmenu=1

that doesnt make any sense... you can install some module or change you board design to somehow magically draw esd's away from the sensitive circuits... what you can do is design the board to be more resistant to esd's and thats what everybody does, the only diference as far as i can tell is that nobody uses this for marketing
that board has some nice features... but im sure i wouldnt use any of them and i doubt most people would. but yeah, they are really good at making their boards look good

its p45 based... never heard of this board before... is it new?
i dont get why asus and gigabyte offer 4 gbit NICs...
and p45 with 4 vga slots? there are only 4 pciE switches and P45 only has 16 pciE lanes... so the first slot is 16 or 8, the second is 0 or 8, and the other 2 slots? one is 4 lanes from the southbridge for sure, so the 4th slot is 1 lane or the 3rd and 4th pciE slot share the 4 lanes of the sb and have 2 lanes each...

Also since you obviously answered the obvious question about the o/c panel regarding the ETA, ill bring up my second question which is about it's pricing and from where one can find it after it has been released.

not sure about where, and pricing should be 50$ retail, maybe 40$...

Also i did notice that the w/ced mobo is not an available option on the FB, however i believe it is quite a smart idea you had there and i most certainly would like it, at least the w/c option if not the L/n /Dice pot

the FB has the same 4in1 heatsink as BR but with only 1 heatpipe, so you can remove the heatsink on the nb and mount the BR waterblock or another waterblock with a custom mounting mod and cool the cpu pwm, nb and sb at the same time

FB GTi uses normal heatsinks without any heatpipes.
and yes, its nice to have a waterblock with the board, but it costs quite a bit, the big fat block on BR is around 20$, thats cheap for waterblocks but its a lot on added price for a board if you dont want it... FB is all about bang for the bug and thats where a waterblock doesnt fit in...

i hope you don't understand me wrong, but the best board does not help me if i can't buy it, and the BR FE is still not available in EU

dont worry... im not offended by that, its not my responsability... im here to make their boards as good as possible, how to manufacture them with the best quality while keeping the price in check and distributing the boards to shops is done by others. its frustrating for me to see it not working out that well so far, but theres not much i can do about it...

Anyway i would like to have
-dual bios on a socket with jumper select like the destroyer -->i love it
-EFI Bios would be cool and would be unique
-5million temp sensors on the NB SB ect etc
-power- reset- CL cmos-buttons, debug led in a new color.. blue? ( during "normal operation" it could show the cpu or NB temp BTW)
-black PCB
-remove IDE, floppy
-easy and save bios flash with USB (not in win)

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not unique, and its not ready... trust me... msi tried it and it blew some boards/cpus overvolting and overclocking with efi doesnt work properly at this point...
heh ok...
blue debug led on a black and red board? :o nb or cpu temp... yeah but thats a gimmick that takes quite some time and its not that useful really... id much rather have a better tweaked bios than that and im sure you agree
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working on it
yes, but only with bootable usb stick atm, working on an in-bios tool

an honest pciX16 2 of them
1 honest pcieX8 slot

for a total total of 3

and midgets ?? well it a well known fact thay overclock better eazer to handel and dont overheat

hmmmm well for FB we could have added a third slot but it would have increased the cost by almost 10$ and like i said...FB is all about bang for the bug and i still dont see tri vgas and quad vgas taking off... and for people who want it, its possible on BR! one card needs to be watercooled, thats the only downside, but like i also said before, changing that would make the layout worse for single and dual card setups which we thought wasnt worth it.

and midgets... actually no, i didnt know that