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    Quote Originally Posted by Serra View Post
    I thought I was answering the questions you posted pretty well, really. You want to argue that it's not fair to criticize Apple on general principles? Well, what about the fact that those general principles (in this example, non-removable batteries being sold as a "feature") are a feature of their specific products.
    Well, you didn't answer to my statement, which was why things are not OK when Apple does them, but are OK when someone else does.

    What you are doing is not criticising the product, but the behaviour of the company.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serra View Post
    Being happy with a purchase is good, but if they were informed by someone who told them they could have had exactly the same product (Mac-clone linux variant) on better hardware for less money, do you think they would still be happy? Well, the ones that don't believe you will be, but educate them up a little and it's another story. There's a difference between being actually happy and being ignorantly happy.
    Yet again, you're stating mac-users are uninformed, ignorant dumb f*cks who would've chosen differently if they knew better. In fact, you're wrong. Many know they're paying more than the hardware is worth, I did as well.

    I'm a moderator in one of the biggest german websites about hardware with forum and print magazine and many of the moderators and editors own Macs. So we're dumb and don't know anything about hardware?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serra View Post
    Again - linux variant on a PC. Exact same product, save $1000. This is why it's so hard to argue FOR Mac (except for business use - customer service / support is obviously valuable in that scenario).
    It's not the same product, period. Please, please please please compare equal products. Interesting to see how you want to compare an OEM-build computer with a custom build one with a FREE OS.

    Show me a Dell, HP, FSC computer with two xeons and Windows for 1000 USD less than the Mac Pro. Then you've got a valid point.

    If you take the T5400 of Dell for instance, pack into it two 2,83 GHz Quadcores, 2 GB of RAM, a 320 GB HDD and you're at: 2800 USD (see attachment), so at the cost of a Mac Pro via apple.com (you can get it cheaper if you're student of course). But, you get a display for free (special offer), a NVS 290 instead of a 2600XT and 3 years of warranty. Is that worth 1000 USD?

    I never doubted Macs are more expensive then the competitors, but the other OEMs aren't way much cheaper.

    I really have to agree with InCore. If you don't like Apple, fine, I don't care. But stop telling mac-users that they are stupid, just because they paid more money for something than it would've cost from a different manufacturer. There are tons of analogies with cars, displays, consumer electronics and so on, where you pay for the looks and the name.
    In fact, I can't stand the self-aggrandizement of Apple (the company) myself, but I enjoy using my MacBook. Why don't you think that this is possible?
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