Retail Q9650 Overclocking Thread

[529th]

Sounds like a RAM issue...

Probably not faulty RAM but I have noticed with mine that if I push my RAM to hard it can be stable one run then unstable the next after restarting then re-running the stability program.

I fiddled with my Channel A clock and command skews and adjusted PL and all good. Must admit it is a pain

Copy & Paste from another thread:



[L=Timings table][/L]

I'm trying to set the '500 spd' in my bios for a Maximus II Formula but I don't know how cause of the abbreviations etc.

My current settings:

1st Information:

5 CAS# Latency
5 DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay
5 DRAM RAS# Precharge
15 DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge
3 RAS# to RAS# Delay
65 Row Refresh Cycle Time
6 Write Recovery Time
4 Read to Precharge Time

2nd Information

8 READ to WRITE Delay (S/D)
3 Write to Read Delay (S)
5 WRITE to READ Delay (D)
4 READ to READ Delay (S)
6 READ to READ Delay (D)
4 WRITE to WRITE Delay (S)
7 WRITE to WRITE Delay (D)

3rd Information

14 WRITE to PRE Delay
5 READ to PRE Delay
1 PRE to PRE Delay
6 ALL PRE to ACT Delay
6 ALL PRE to REF Delay

and what does the "S" and "D" mean in 2nd info?

Thanks in advance

[deachus]

Well I finally got the system together and Vista Ultimate x64 installed. Here are some shots with my first try at 4Ghz on the P5Q3 Deluxe. I have ALOT of tweaking and testing to do. Will post some more results shortly. This thing flys at 4Ghz on low volts.

[529th]

That's about were my vcore is. Mine is currently 1.3040

Still trying to adjust trace routes with the memory channels etc. Otherwise, i get almost 2rhs prime blend.

[Jor3lBR]

After a week of fun in the Extreme, now it's time to apply some gained skills on the UD3P

What I thought it was impossible is so far holding strong on my UD3P. This board and cpu just keep going and going! The hard part is to use the least amount of volts for the cpu and highest mem strap and timings possible.

Noticed I changed voltages from Team Xtreem to G.Skills a bit but that was only because of larger RAM used for testing.

All this in cheap water cooling system.

I try to send as many pics of the entire testing process (beginning/middle/ end) because I noticed many fake SS's around the web of people adjusting voltages and/or cutting blend tests as customs trying to deceive people here...

[IBT&HCI Memtes: EP45-UD3P + Q9650@4500Mhz + 2Gb_DDR2@1334Mhz PL7]

Beginning:


Middle:


End + 100% HCI Memtest:




[Prime95 Blend: EP45-UD3P + Q9650@4500Mhz + 4Gb_DDR2@1250Mhz PL8]



...
I will post more results and templates during the next week, this was very very very hard to achieve and needed some voodoo magic to work!

Now lets move on to get closer to 5000Mhz stable





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[systemviper]

After a week of fun in the Extreme, now it's time to apply some gained skills on the UD3P

What I thought it was impossible is so far holding strong on my UD3P. This board and cpu just keep going and going! The hard part is to use the least amount of volts for the cpu and highest mem strap and timings possible.

Noticed I changed voltages from Team Xtreem to G.Skills a bit but that was only because of larger RAM used for testing.

All this in cheap water cooling system.

I try to send as many pics of the entire testing process (beginning/middle/ end) because I noticed many fake SS's around the web of people adjusting voltages and/or cutting blend tests as customs trying to deceive people here...

[IBT&HCI Memtes: EP45-UD3P + Q9650@4500Mhz + 2Gb_DDR2@1334Mhz PL7]




[SIZE="3"][Prime95 Blend: EP45-UD3P + Q9650@4500Mhz + 4Gb_DDR2@1250Mhz PL8]



...
I will post more results and templates during the next week, this was very very very hard to achieve and needed some voodoo magic to work!

Now lets move on to get closer to 5000Mhz stable





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Just amazing, I love to watch for your posts

can't wait to see your templates, i have a susprise comming for the UD3P

I'll be back to rocking hte UD3P and can't wait, been havign fun with the

BLOODRAGE

Lately, but i think the UD3P will be back in the "IGLOO" this weekend for a little suprise fun....


But keep up the great work, always love to see your expert work

best regards/steve (SV)

[5010]

Looking to grab at Q9650 to go in my Striker II Extreme 790i which I'm going to pair with 8GB's of Patriot 2000 9-9-9-24.

Seems all the batches available to me locally are L828A446...reading the first part of this post re batches it seems I want a B batch. Does it REALLY matter as getting a B is proving difficult.

Thanks guys. Need 4.0ghz with 8GB DDR3 RAM

just so you know, that batch is ace... Mine is from it doing 4.15ghz on 1.24vcore with only 1.15vtt on a 790i ultra... You must be Canadian too... Some folks have ordered to get this batch from overseas

[deachus]

Here's an Everest and quick SuperPi_1M. I'm still trying to find the sweat spot.

[xguntherc]

wow guys, nice work. How are you able to get 4.0 Ghz with only 1.24 or 1.26v in BIOS.. and if it's 1.24 in bios, it's even less in CPU-Z huh.. thats just not fair... My board sucks. I'm sure I'd do much better with a better mobo, but I don't really need the extra 3 or 400 Mhz.. 4.3 Ghz is doable with my system, but I've yet to get it stable. I can bench with 4.275 Ghz.

Nice work with the 790i ultra there.

oh and to trigger, any Q9650 will be able to hit 4.0 Ghz with a faily decent motherboard. one as cheap as mine does it with no problems. just a lot of Vcore.
I almost want to mail my Q9650 off to one of you guys like Jor3 or someone to see how well it does in there board over mine.

Anyways, I'm posting in here to tell you all that I've finally done it, I got water-cooling. I have a HAF that is currently in my bathroom leak testing with a Apogee GTZ, MCP-655 D5 Vario, Feser TFC360 Rad, and the Micro res, all with Danger Den High flow barbs and Masterkleer tubing. I'm very exited for it. I can't wait to throw this Q9650 under some water and see how well I can do, the only problem is I need 1.312v to be stable at 4.0 Ghz, and thats in CPU-Z.. in Bios It's like 1.34v for 4.0 ghz stable.. but with 1.355 I'm able to bench with 4.25 Ghz. But I think my problem is that my motherboard is limited on the fsb/vtt voltage, I'm only able to raise the vtt voltage to 1.45v. I can't go any higher, and like Jor3, and Napalm said.. the higher vtt/fsb voltage sure helped them. Or it did with napalm. so we'll see what I can do with only able to go that high.

Results coming soon, I'll leak test tonight, and throw system in case tomorrow.

[Hoss331]

Jor3lBR, was there any advantage going from the F6 to F8a bios?

[Trigger5521]

Looking to grab at Q9650 to go in my Striker II Extreme 790i which I'm going to pair with 8GB's of Patriot 2000 9-9-9-24.

Seems all the batches available to me locally are L828A446...reading the first part of this post re batches it seems I want a B batch. Does it REALLY matter as getting a B is proving difficult.

Thanks guys. Need 4.0ghz with 8GB DDR3 RAM

just so you know, that batch is ace... Mine is from it doing 4.15ghz on 1.24vcore with only 1.15vtt on a 790i ultra... You must be Canadian too... Some folks have ordered to get this batch from overseas

Oh for the love of god, is my luck us unreal. I decided to order a chip from my trusted computer shop to see if I could get a B series instead of grabbing one of the L828A446's local to me. Would you believe I got L834B631...same damn batch that PortCitySlim( post) had all stuck senors and worthless OC.

Thank god these guys I bought it from are top notch..he said he would just send it back and get me another one, I didn't even open it.

[PortCitySlim]

Would you believe I got L834B631...same damn batch that PortCitySlim( post) had all stuck senors and worthless OC.

Most of these chips have stuck sensors, my new chip has stuck 34-34-32-34 sensors. I wonder if yours would have sucked ass like the one I had. I have seen chips from the same batch number act completely opposite of each other.

[Trigger5521]

Most of these chips have stuck sensors, my new chip has stuck 34-34-32-34 sensors. I wonder if yours would have sucked ass like the one I had. I have seen chips from the same batch number act completely opposite of each other.

We'll never know I didn't want to take a chance after what you went through. Thanks for posting that BTW probably saved me a headache.

[Jor3lBR]

Jor3lBR, was there any advantage going from the F6 to F8a bios?

Nope, same results.

Oh for the love of god, is my luck us unreal. I decided to order a chip from my trusted computer shop to see if I could get a B series instead of grabbing one of the L828A446's local to me. Would you believe I got L834B631...same damn batch that PortCitySlim( post) had all stuck senors and worthless OC.

Thank god these guys I bought it from are top notch..he said he would just send it back and get me another one, I didn't even open it.

It's official. All Intel $335 Q9650 are processors that ddin't make the cut to go to the shelf's on the first place. Same thing qith the new Q6600's...

All of them have stuck sensors.

[deachus]

I have 1 stuck sensor at idle but is right in line with the rest at full load. Here's my best 1M score in the little time I've had to play with the new setup. Much more benching to come over the weekend.

*UPDATE*

I was able to get some lower SuperPi 1M and 32M scores and gain some ground with Vantage PhysX off.

For some reason this Board will not run 1:1 at all. I have 2 sets G.Skill 2x1GB 1600Mhz D9GTS that run DDR3-2040Mhz on my P5E3 Premium a set of Mushkin 2x2GB 1600Mhz D9GTS and a set of G.Skill 2x2GB 1600Mhz Samsung HCF0 and none of them will run 1:1 on the P5Q3 Deluxe. Not sure if I'm missing something here. Settings are a little different then my P5E3 Premium.

[.OCX]

Q9650
SLB8W
L829A405
VID:1.2375
Pack Date: 1/30/2009
Purchased: Newegg on 2/13/2009


Base line, as low as she can go....for now.

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual  
CPU Ratio Control : 9  
FSB Frequency : 433
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1040
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual 
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5 
RAS# Precharge :5 
RAS# ActivateTime :15 
RAS# to RAS# Delay : A
Row Refresh Cycle Time : A
Write Recovery Time : A
Read to Precharge Time : A

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : A
Write to Read Delay (S) : A
Write to Read Delay (D) : A
Read to Read Delay (S) : A
Read to Read Delay (D) : A
Write to Write Delay (S) :A 
Write to Write Delay (D) : A
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : DISABLED
===Relax Level = 0

CPU Voltage : 1.2375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.0
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.2
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt 
SB LED Selection : SB Volt 
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt 
Voltiminder LED : 

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled 

Advanced CPU Configuration 
CPU Ratio Control :9 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 
C1E Suppport : Disabled 
CPU TM Function : Disabled 
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled 
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled 
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 


USB Configuration 
USB Functions: Enabled 
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[radaja]

check out my new cpu.the two stronger cores really give it a great boost.

[Zucker2k]

check out my new cpu.the two stronger cores really give it a great boost.

Okay, what's going on there?

[radaja]

i have no idea?except that i had an E8500 in then swapped out for the 9650,cleared cmos,loaded setup defaults booted into windows then it said it had drivers for the 9650 and said to restart and then i got this.pretty strange though.

[Falkentyne]

i have no idea?except that i had an E8500 in then swapped out for the 9650,cleared cmos,loaded setup defaults booted into windows then it said it had drivers for the 9650 and said to restart and then i got this.pretty strange though.

Just delete the processors and then reboot.
Problem should be solved.

[radaja]

yea i got fixed.thanks

[bito]

Latest on my MFII....12 Hours+ Prime screenshot
CPU GTL's are +10/-40/+10/-40
NB GTL is +60mV



3Dmark06 - 22051 with single GTX285 FTW, no tweaks
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=10092979

[deachus]

I am amazed at how tight this board allows me to run my Mushkin 2x2GB D9GTS. This was not at all possible on my P5E3 Premium. I am running DDR3-1568Mhz @ 6-6-6-18-2T-60~1.98v. These sticks ran DDR3-1600Mhz 7-7-6-18-1T 1.94v on P5E3 Premium. Bandwidth looks really good as well

[andressergio]

Hey guys

A friend of my is going to buy a Q9650 and he has the EVGA I790 ULTRA SLI, how are this mobos to clock this chips ?

Cheers
Sergio

[deachus]

This Q9650 and GTX 285 are still scaling nicely Haven't hit a wall yet on the CPU or VGA. I just finished up some benching, now time for some dinner. I am still amazed at the memory performance with these tight timings but low mem speed. I was able to run this set close to 2000Mhz on my P5E3 Premium but the Everest and SuperPI results were no were close to these I'm loving this new setup and I believe I got a great Q9650 from Newegg.

[banny]

I have one, but it needs lots of volts to do 4ghz even at 1.4 vcore in bios it fails prime instantly.
settings are
vcore 1.4
cpu pll 1.50
FSB term 1.36
dram 2v
NB 1.71v
SB 1.1
CPU GTL 0.63
NB GTL 0.67
SB 1.5v voltage 1.50v

this seem pretty high to me.
can get in windows at 4.2ghz with much higher volts but still unstable.

Do I just have a rubbish cpu, board is an X38 P5E which has been rock stable at the 467fsb with my previous Q9300 with much lower vcore than 1.4v