UnOfficial Asus Rampage II Extreme Thread

[dejanh]

Yeah. I seem to remember (giving away my age now lol) we used to have 'turbo' buttons on front of our PC's (I may be going back too far now lol) but, if you needed it, you hit the button

When I need it, I'll hit the button (the un-cripple one)

Don't worry, I remember those button well too

And trust me, I was not that young when they were around hahaha

[T_Flight]

Here ya go

1104 Bios

Thanks a bunch, getting ready to try it as soon as I finish this reply.

Name them?

Utter rubbish! Tell me of any application/game that uses 4 cores + 4 virtual?

The intensive Photoshop 4 has implemented GPU usage, but I don't see it even using the best of 2 cores, never mind anything else, apart from RAM.

Cripple?........lol, what nonsense

Ahhhh, contempt prior to investigation!

1. Folding (Shown Vividly By Our Own Movieman who did the tests and showed the results)
2. Rendering
3. Encoding
4. All of my Flow Analysis programs.
5. CADD, especially the Engineering Suite of Solid Edge
6. FSX

There are others, but that's a good start on the list. They didn't spend Millions to incorporate SMT on these CPU's because it was useless. These are not consoles. They are work machines. Play time is just and added benefit.

If you're having issues with heat then control it. I'm currently running HT on at 4.2GHz and don;t get out of the 60's...ever.

[scaramonga]

Thanks a bunch, getting ready to try it as soon as I finish this reply.



Ahhhh, contempt prior to investigation!

1. Folding (Shown Vividly By Our Own Movieman who did the tests and showed the results)
2. Rendering
3. Encoding
4. All of my Flow Analysis programs.
5. CADD, especially the Engineering Suite of Solid Edge
6. FSX

There are others, but that's a good start on the list. They didn't spend Millions to incorporate SMT on these CPU's because it was useless. These are not consoles. They are work machines. Play time is just and added benefit.

If you're having issues with heat then control it. I'm currently running HT on at 4.2GHz and don;t get out of the 60's...ever.

All the above can benefit, yes, but are not optimized for 4 + 4, FSX, lol, I run that lovely on a dual core system, folding?, well that's another story lol, and I won't say my comments about that in here

Basically what you are saying, is that all who have bought into the i7 system, and are not running HT, we've wasted time and money because we now run our systems 'crippled'?

[chayos00]

Has anybody added any small fans to their NB/SB setup? I was wondering about maybe a 40-60mm fan over top of it, since my IR temp gun says it's running @ 150*F and my ram is @ 125*F then the heatsinks around the CPU are almost 160*F. I know I could watercool it all, but that's more that I don't want to do right now. Small 40mm fans would be much easier.

When I put my 8" Lakewood fan blowing on the MB directly all those temps drop to like 85-95*F

[peebee]

Thanks a lot to cstlk an dejanh for pushing the lazy bunch of Asus engineers
Asus should thank you too in that way. Lots of people might change their mind on their
decision not to buy this board according to the new bios.

[PalmeAsus]

dejanh does your cold boot prob go away if you remove the mem in the last blue slot ? furthest to the right ? my cold boot disappears with over 1.45 qpi and it's not unstable with oced or standard settings at first bot i have swapped between my 3 mems and it works just fine when i dont use the last slot.

Im thinking of broken mem controller in the cpu but dunno since it works fine after shutdown then on again .

i got batch 3836A689

[glenn37216]

4.2 WITH HT on ! Bios 1104 is a hit for me !

Now I need to back down the cpu volts a little because I hit 80c @1.496.

But atleast I made it this far. Prime95 stable and Vantage passed. 25780 3DMark06

[lysyn123]

Vantage 295 GTX

[glenn37216]

[T_Flight]

Guys, that 1104 is much more than a modded BIOS for the TDP Override. It seems more stable. I was able to lower my voltage down 2 ticks from 1.45 to 1.43125 vCore. I'm not 100% certain it's 100% stable, but have noticed my system doesn;t like Cinebench when it's not stable. It wouldn't run Cinebench before at anything lower than 1.45. Now it will run it at 1.43125.

You might wanna try and see if you can lower vCore for the same clocks. Lower voltage is always better when you don;t need it. Lower temps too!

Can others please confirm if they notice the same thing?

[Zurv]

i'm not sure what was changed in 1104. I'm i'm stable at 4.4ghz @ 1.536 vcore (as reported by cpu-z). Everything else auto (other than c state crap). HT and turbo on. ram 1600 w/ 1.65.
it is a 965 cold by a vapochill (unmod'd).
The Cpu under full load is seemingly putting out alot less heat (Prime 95). I could get this before, but after a few min the system would just get to hot (it would normally crash around 30-40c). It is steady sub-zero (mostly ) My Apt is hot today too.. about 80F
I think i needed a higher vcore to be stable @ this speed before too...
4.4 was just a random pick.. i'll see if i can go higher when i get back from the gym ^_^
*edit: yeah.. this thing rox! i just keep dropping the vcore and it is still stable. 1.496 now.. sweet.

[dejanh]

Guys, that 1104 is much more than a modded BIOS for the TDP Override. It seems more stable. I was able to lower my voltage down 2 ticks from 1.45 to 1.43125 vCore. I'm not 100% certain it's 100% stable, but have noticed my system doesn;t like Cinebench when it's not stable. It wouldn't run Cinebench before at anything lower than 1.45. Now it will run it at 1.43125.

You might wanna try and see if you can lower vCore for the same clocks. Lower voltage is always better when you don;t need it. Lower temps too!

Can others please confirm if they notice the same thing?

Yes, 1104 has more changes than just TDP override. It does seem more stable than earlier versions.

Here is a 4140MHz 20-pass LinX run with 1804MHz DRAM, 3600MHz Uncore, 3960MHz QPI. DRAM is 100% stable and has been extensively tested in both Memtest86+ 2.11 and Memtest HCI. The settings are as follows...

TDP Override - Enabled
BCLK - 180MHz
Multiplier - Auto (22x, 23x with Turbo)
DRAM - 1804MHz, 8-9-7-19-1T
CPU Voltage - 1.36250V
QPI/DRAM Voltage - 1.35000V
DRAM Voltage - 1.65681V
Load Line Calibration - Auto

All else is on defaults...here is the screenshot...

[BustaH]

Vantage 295 GTX

Nice score, can you run again with physics disabled? would be interesting to see what you get under 'no physics' condition at those clocks. I ask because im trying to decide if I will buy a gtx 295 or not.

thanks.

[T_Flight]

Yes, 1104 has more changes than just TDP override. It does seem more stable than earlier versions.

Here is a 4140MHz 20-pass LinX run with 1804MHz DRAM, 3600MHz Uncore, 3960MHz QPI. DRAM is 100% stable and has been extensively tested in both Memtest86+ 2.11 and Memtest HCI. The settings are as follows...

TDP Override - Enabled
BCLK - 180MHz
Multiplier - Auto (22x, 23x with Turbo)
DRAM - 1804MHz, 8-9-7-19-1T
CPU Voltage - 1.36250V
QPI/DRAM Voltage - 1.35000V
DRAM Voltage - 1.65681V
Load Line Calibration - Auto

All else is on defaults...here is the screenshot...

What RAM? I'd like to get mine higher than 1604 if I could. I haven;t gone above 1.65v and have 1.35 QPI/DRAM (Vtt) also.

[glenn37216]

So you guys think 1.526 v core at 4.2ghz with HT on is safe? My temps were 79-83c ... Just wondering if that clock would shorten my cpu's lifespan greatly.

[theonlybabyface]

Yes, 1104 has more changes than just TDP override. It does seem more stable than earlier versions.

Here is a 4140MHz 20-pass LinX run with 1804MHz DRAM, 3600MHz Uncore, 3960MHz QPI. DRAM is 100% stable and has been extensively tested in both Memtest86+ 2.11 and Memtest HCI. The settings are as follows...

TDP Override - Enabled
BCLK - 180MHz
Multiplier - Auto (22x, 23x with Turbo)
DRAM - 1804MHz, 8-9-7-19-1T
CPU Voltage - 1.36250V
QPI/DRAM Voltage - 1.35000V
DRAM Voltage - 1.65681V
Load Line Calibration - Auto

All else is on defaults...here is the screenshot...

For some reason, I have to have the CPU Turbo Power Limit set to DISABLED for the override to work as well as all C1 otherwise my multi drops to 20x when priming. TDP can be Enabled or Disabled makes no difference to me so I leave it on Enabled.

My settings are:

CPU Turbo Power Limit = Disabled
C1 = Disabled
TDP = Enabled

[dejanh]

What RAM? I'd like to get mine higher than 1604 if I could. I haven;t gone above 1.65v and have 1.35 QPI/DRAM (Vtt) also.

You are not going to like this...I think you got rid of this one way back...

Corsair XMS3 Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D 6GB DDR3 3X2GB DDR3-1600 CL 8-8-8-24 Triple Channel Kit

I can actually get mine completly stable up to 1904MHz, but there is no decent CPU OC to go with it.

So you guys think 1.526 v core at 4.2ghz with HT on is safe? My temps were 79-83c ... Just wondering if that clock would shorten my cpu's lifespan greatly.

I personally would not run the Vcore so high. I stop at about 1.45V. Some degradation is probably guaranteed when running Vcore so high for 24/7, but you may not notice it if you do not keep your chips for years on end. I pass on all of my old chips to other people so I do not want to ruin them.

For some reason, I have to have the CPU Turbo Power Limit set to DISABLED for the override to work as well as all C1 and TDP otherwise my multi drops to 20x when priming. Am I missing something?

Settings should be?

CPU Turbo Power Limit = Enabled or Disabled?
C1 = Disabled (given)
TDP = Disabled or Enabled?

Temps? TM causes the processor to downclock when the temperatures get too high. It is not good to turn this feature off. CPU Turbo Power Limit is set to Disabled for me...I just said TDP Override enabled - i.e., limit is disabled

My TM is Enabled too (default).

[Zurv]

yeah.. 1104 is seemlying almost magic (for my system atleast). I just keep dropping the vcore and it is still stable 4.4ghz and 1.440 vcore.. (i needed over 1.5-something before for it to be stable)

[theonlybabyface]

You are not going to like this...I think you got rid of this one way back...

Corsair XMS3 Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D 6GB DDR3 3X2GB DDR3-1600 CL 8-8-8-24 Triple Channel Kit

I can actually get mine completly stable up to 1904MHz, but there is no decent CPU OC to go with it.



I personally would not run the Vcore so high. I stop at about 1.45V. Some degradation is probably guaranteed when running Vcore so high for 24/7, but you may not notice it if you do not keep your chips for years on end. I pass on all of my old chips to other people so I do not want to ruin them.



Temps? TM causes the processor to downclock when the temperatures get too high. It is not good to turn this feature off. CPU Turbo Power Limit is set to Disabled for me...I just said TDP Override enabled - i.e., limit is disabled

My TM is Enabled too (default).

Thanks. I'm on air and the multi under load is changing once I hit 80C...way too early. Real Temp and Core Temp temps. If I disable those options, I keep my multi at 21 and cpu stays at 4200 mhz which is the opposite as you???

[auchkoenig]

yeah.. 1104 is seemlying almost magic (for my system atleast). I just keep dropping the vcore and it is still stable 4.4ghz and 1.440 vcore.. (i needed over 1.5-something before for it to be stable)

I think I know why. The new bios seems to overvolt underload like crazy. Dont just trust the cpu-z value. Use a DMM to verify it.

[glenn37216]

You are not going to like this...I think you got rid of

I personally would not run the Vcore so high. I stop at about 1.45V. Some degradation is probably guaranteed when running Vcore so high for 24/7, but you may not notice it if you do not keep your chips for years on end. I pass on all of my old chips to other people so I do not want to ruin them.

Thankx dejanh , Testing 1.45v atm . Whats decent Ich/Ioh voltages to start out with for a shot at 4.2 ? I left them on auto with 1.52cpu v. in bios to get 4.2 stable. I think I could get rocksolid at 4.2 with lower temps by adjusting the nb and sb voltages .

[T_Flight]

You are not going to like this...I think you got rid of this one way back...

Corsair XMS3 Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D 6GB DDR3 3X2GB DDR3-1600 CL 8-8-8-24 Triple Channel Kit

I can actually get mine completly stable up to 1904MHz, but there is no decent CPU OC to go with it.



I personally would not run the Vcore so high. I stop at about 1.45V. Some degradation is probably guaranteed when running Vcore so high for 24/7, but you may not notice it if you do not keep your chips for years on end. I pass on all of my old chips to other people so I do not want to ruin them.



Temps? TM causes the processor to downclock when the temperatures get too high. It is not good to turn this feature off. CPU Turbo Power Limit is set to Disabled for me...I just said TDP Override enabled - i.e., limit is disabled

My TM is Enabled too (default).

I've still got it. I've been to busy to mess with it yet, but it will be going. I can't get that RAM to OC worth a . Anything over 1604 and it just won;t run. If I take the ram out it'll OC up to 4.3GHz. Put the RAM back in even at 1704 or even 1654 and it is not stable. I've tried just about every combination of multi's and BCLCK I can and even loosed the timings down to 9-9-9-24-1T and it won't run worth a damn. It Dominates allright...it dominates at sucking really bad.

[DR3]

12v drup/drop?
Have a RIIE with a 965 Core i7.
Every time the bios initializes the CPU the fans noticeably run slower and the LEDs dim.
Is this normal or do I have a bad board?

Well, thanks for the help.

Found that the problem was the PSU.
I replaced the Ultra X3 1000w with a Thermaltake Toughpower 1200w and have had no problems with 12v drop or booting problems.

[electricl]

Hey guys I was wondering if somebody could help me get my oc stable with HT on.
So far I cant runt HT on at the settings below and I dont know how much more I can raise vcore without the temps getting too high.
I can run 3800MHz HT on@1.352v but that seems a bit too high. Any help would be appreciated. Im on latest BIOS. Settings below are Prime, Linx and pcmark/3Dmark vantage stable.



AI overclock - manual
OC from CPU level up - auto
OC from Memory level up - auto
CPU Ratio setting - auto

CPU configuration
CPU Ratio Setting - auto
C1E Support - disable
Hardware prefetcher - enable
Adjacent Cache line prefetcher - enable
Intel Virtualization tech - disabled
CPU TM Function - disabled
Execute Disabled bit - disabled
Intel HT Technology - disabled
Active Processor Cores - all
A20M - enable
Intel Speedstep tech - enabled
Intel Turbo Mode tech - enabled
Intel C-STATE tech - disabled

BCLK frequency - 191
PCIE frequency - 110
DRAM frequency - DDR3 1528MHz
UCLK frequency - 3056MHz
QPI frequency - auto

Dram timing control
1st iformation - Insert Timings Here in 9-9-9-24 -X-X-Xformat
2nd information - Insert Timings Here in X-X-X-XX -X-X-Xformat
3rd information - Insert Timings Here in X-X-X-XX-X-X-X format

EPU II phase control - full phase
Load-line calibration - enable
CPU differential amplitude - 800mV
Extreme OV - disabled

Current voltage
Cpu voltage - 1.328V in windows 1.35000v BIOS
CPU PLL voltage - auto
QPI-Dram voltage - 1.37500v BIOS 1.356v win

Current voltage 1.131v - 1.508v - 1.111v - 1.508v
IOH voltage - 1.39v
IOH PCIE voltage - auto
ICH voltage- 1.15316 BIOS 1.15v win
ICH PCIE voltage - auto

Current voltage X.xxx v, X.xxx v, X.xxx v ,X.xxx v
DRAM Bus voltage - 1.64356 v BIOS 1.640 Win
DRAM REF voltage - auto

Debug mode - string
Keyboard TeakIt comtrol - disabled or enable

CPU spread spectrum - disabled or enable
PCIE spectrum - disabled or enable
CPU clock skew - auto or XXXX ps
IOH clock skew - auto or XXXX ps

[Zurv]

I think I know why. The new bios seems to overvolt underload like crazy. Dont just trust the cpu-z value. Use a DMM to verify it.

did it not do this pre-1104?