DFI LP UT X58-T3EH8 - First bench, bios screens etc

[The Nemesis]

I just dont understand the answers i've been given so far, so i'll try untill i get it.

HT enabled is that a bios setting....?

My goodness! HT = "Hyper-Threading Technology" which you could have looked up at wikipedia or intel's website. It was introduced back in the P4 days and basicly made a system behave as though it had two cores(processors). One being a actual phyiscal core the other being a logical core. It was dropped with the introduction of the core 2 duo line which had two actual physical cores. Now its been reintroduced on the i7 line which has 4 physical cores and 4 addtional logical cores with HT enabled for a total of 8 possible threads.

[Sam_oslo]

I just dont understand the answers i've been given so far, so i'll try untill i get it.

HT enabled is that a bios setting....?

yes, you can enable (8 core) or disable (4 core) hyper Treading, in BIOS: CPU Features -> Activate HT

Screen shot: http://nx.i4memory.com/reviewimages/...8_bios_004.jpg

[PRJ]

Ok, thanks Sam oslo & Nemesis

I did google HT, but that did'nt answer the quistion about what "HT:ON" was referring to. I gotta ask about the full name of the funktion before i can google myself.

But thanks anyway

[Sam_oslo]

With a bit improvement on cooling, my B-batch-babe has been priming stable for over 1 hour @4GHZ with BCLK 211 , 1.34/1.34/1.63 (Vcore/VVT/Vdimm).

I raised the VVT to the same level as Vcore (1.34v for both under the prime load) and i believe it has been the key to the prime stability at this BCLK for my CPU. I raised the NB Core "one notch" too, to 1.12v but i can't confirm that it had any effect on the prime stability. DFI LP UT X58 showed no problem running @4GHZ (19x211) with hyper treading. It behaved excellent and stable under the stress of the prime load.

@4GHZ (211x19) 1,34v - 1 hour primestable


I had to use push/pull on CPU, and a 2000RPM (Intel's stock CPU cooler) over NB to keep the system(PWM area) temperatures under control under the prime run.
I didn't want to push my babe too much at these speeds, and stopped the prime after 1 hour. I'm going to run 1 hour OOCT-mix after a while to confirm the stability for 24/7 use.

[Shadowjump]

Quick question, what are the 2 floppy power connectors for? If they are for the GPU, how are they supposed to help, when all the other X58 motherboard do not have them?

[PRJ]

With a bit improvement on cooling, my B-batch-babe has been priming stable for over 1 hour @4GHZ with BCLK 211 , 1.34/1.34/1.63 (Vcore/VVT/Vdimm).

I raised the VVT to the same level as Vcore (1.34v for both under the prime load) and i believe it has been the key to the prime stability at this BCLK for my CPU. I raised the NB Core "one notch" too, to 1.12v but i can't confirm that it had any effect on the prime stability. DFI LP UT X58 showed no problem running @4GHZ (19x211) with hyper treading. It behaved excellent and stable under the stress of the prime load.

@4GHZ (211x19) 1,34v - 1 hour primestable


I had to use push/pull on CPU, and a 2000RPM (Intel's stock CPU cooler) over NB to keep the system(PWM area) temperatures under control under the prime run.
I didn't want to push my babe too much at these speeds, and stopped the prime after 1 hour. I'm going to run 1 hour OOCT-mix after a while to confirm the stability for 24/7 use.

I belive I have the same batch CPU as you, 3837B390 and same motherboard. I have been priming for 1 hour, also with 1,34 / 1,34 / 1,65 But this is with HT Disabled, will try a prime with HT enabled later if system seems stable for more than 4 hours of prime. I used 1,32 VVT yesterday and it crashed after two hours of prime, so lets hope 1,34 is the sweetspot

**UPDATE / Primestable for 1 hour, but no more than that. More than an hour and creashes occurs or Prime stops a thread. I have even tryed upto 1,36 / 1,36 / 1,63 mesured in DFI Smart Guareian. Don't belive I'll get this CPU stable over 3.8 GHz :o( / UPDATE***

[Sam_oslo]

@PRJ
My B-batch-babe is 3837B017, and isn't exactly the same as yours, but all week37 B-batches are good.

When i tried @4GHZ HT:off, for a while ago, it was priming with 1.26v , i tried with different VVT, and it didn't seams to have much effect on it. You can try 1.26v too.

@4GHZ (211x19) HT:off, 1.26v, 2 hour primestable

[PRJ]

@PRJ
My B-batch-babe is 3837B017, and isn't exactly the same as yours, but all week37 B-batches are good.

When i tried @4GHZ HT:off, for a while ago, it was priming with 1.26v , i tried with different VVT, and it didn't seams to have much effect on it. You can try 1.26v too.

@4GHZ (211x19) HT:off, 1.26v, 2 hour primestable

I Googled my batch 3837B390 and you showed up on a .no website, but now I see it was another that had the same batch

[Sam_oslo]

Some Cinibench rendring(x CPU) score scaling in different speeds. All reults are with Hyper Treading. It seams to scale pretty much streit.

@4GHZ (219x19), 23265


@3.8GHZ (200x19), 21937


@3.3GHZ (160x20), 19294

[jcool]

Well, not all 3837B are good CPUs it seems.. at least I haven't had much luck with the 3837B282 I just slapped in my phase rig a few hours earlier. No way to even get 4,2Ghz stable, tried 1,55V Vcore - crap CPU
Also it despises the 21x mult which already disqualifies it for phase.. oddly enough it prefers the 20x, first i7 I have ever tried that actually likes even mults.

Oh well...

[eva2000]

Been picking DFI's brains regarding some of the cpu feature options and i think i got my head around them and updated my tips post at http://i4memory.com/102537-post3.html



TDC/TDP & TM Protection (Turbo mode effects): In CPU Feature section of bios the Set VR Current Limit Max and Thermal Management Control options control TDC/TDP and other temperature related throttling for Core i7 cpu.

• TDC = over current protection which default Vcore OCP max is 140A (for CPU PWM IC). At >70A, TDC is tripped, it will disable Turbo mode - thus you may see your cpu multiplier drop by 1x or 2x.
• TDP = thermal design power according to DFI is tripped at around >80W which will also disable Turbo mode
• Set VR Current Limit Max = Enable to disable both TDC and TDP protection functions thus allowing Turbo mode to run without any TDC/TDP protection.
• Thermal Management Control = Tripped when core temp is >90C, Turbo mode will disable. At >105C core temp, will force system shutdown.
• Only when 965 cpu is installed are 2 additional options for TDC/TDP displayed for TDC Enable: x TDC Limit: and TDP Enable: Disabled x TDP Limit: 0

So apparently, Set VR Current Limit Max = Enable is what you want to run turbo freely to the limits of your system hehe

[rusty]

Been picking DFI's brains regarding some of the cpu feature options and i think i got my head around them and updated my tips post at http://i4memory.com/102537-post3.html



TDC/TDP & TM Protection (Turbo mode effects): In CPU Feature section of bios the Set VR Current Limit Max and Thermal Management Control options control TDC/TDP and other temperature related throttling for Core i7 cpu.

• TDC = over current protection which default Vcore OCP max is 140A (for CPU PWM IC). At >70A, TDC is tripped, it will disable Turbo mode - thus you may see your cpu multiplier drop by 1x or 2x.
• TDP = thermal design power according to DFI is tripped at around >80W which will also disable Turbo mode
• Set VR Current Limit Max = Enable to disable both TDC and TDP protection functions thus allowing Turbo mode to run without any TDC/TDP protection.
• Thermal Management Control = Tripped when core temp is >90C, Turbo mode will disable. At >105C core temp, will force system shutdown.
• Only when 965 cpu is installed are 2 additional options for TDC/TDP displayed for TDC Enable: x TDC Limit: and TDP Enable: Disabled x TDP Limit: 0

So apparently, Set VR Current Limit Max = Enable is what you want to run turbo freely to the limits of your system hehe

Is enabling "Set VR Current Limit Max" true for running in non-turbo mode? Is TDC kinda similar to p5q deluxe overvoltage protection OV_CPU ?

[eva2000]

for non turbo mode i think it it's true/same. No idea about P5Q DX comparison - never used that board

[rusty]

for non turbo mode i think it it's true/same. No idea about P5Q DX comparison - never used that board

Thanks for replying Eva :> It's weird but on my p5q deluxe I have to change the pins on OV_CPU in order to reach higher clocks even though overvoltage protects you going over 1.7 vcore or vtt I don't remember which one. Anyways, thats good to know that there's such a feature. I'll try that feature when I get my mobo back from RMA dept.

[i7luver]

Major problems with my DFI x58-T3eh8, firstly a minor one, my power led is always on, even when the computer is off, as long as the psu is connected to the power socket it stays on, secondly the hdd led is always on once my computer is on, I checked the leads, all correctly connected. So I thought maybe it was a bios issue, and it wasn't detecting one of my 3 sticks of ram as well, i'm guessing its probably a bad stick of ram, RMAing that tomorrow, anyways I flashed the bios to 02/06 beta using the bootable usb method, it goes into the bios flashing utility, goes through about 40 blocks, and there was one block which read write failed, then it restarted, now everytime I boot, the post code gets stuck at C1, I'm assuming the single sector that failed to write is causing this, I've tried swapping rams, using only one stick, everything, still stuck at C1. Everything I used was brand new, just got them today. Someone save me

[rusty]

Major problems with my DFI x58-T3eh8, firstly a minor one, my power led is always on, even when the computer is off, as long as the psu is connected to the power socket it stays on, secondly the hdd led is always on once my computer is on, I checked the leads, all correctly connected. So I thought maybe it was a bios issue, and it wasn't detecting one of my 3 sticks of ram as well, i'm guessing its probably a bad stick of ram, RMAing that tomorrow, anyways I flashed the bios to 02/06 beta using the bootable usb method, it goes into the bios flashing utility, goes through about 40 blocks, and there was one block which read write failed, then it restarted, now everytime I boot, the post code gets stuck at C1, I'm assuming the single sector that failed to write is causing this, I've tried swapping rams, using only one stick, everything, still stuck at C1. Everything I used was brand new, just got them today. Someone save me

Maybe reset cmos ? and then try to reflash it again or downgrade bios ?

[i7luver]

tried resetting cmos, can't reflash, the computer won't post, stuck at C1, screen doesn't come on, no response from anything.

[rusty]

tried resetting cmos, can't reflash, the computer won't post, stuck at C1, screen doesn't come on, no response from anything.

no idea then. RMA it.

[i7luver]

can i just rma the bios chip? or the whole thing? no other way of rescuing it huh?

[The Watcher]

Been picking DFI's brains regarding some of the cpu feature options and i think i got my head around them and updated my tips post at http://i4memory.com/102537-post3.html



TDC/TDP & TM Protection (Turbo mode effects): In CPU Feature section of bios the Set VR Current Limit Max and Thermal Management Control options control TDC/TDP and other temperature related throttling for Core i7 cpu.

• TDC = over current protection which default Vcore OCP max is 140A (for CPU PWM IC). At >70A, TDC is tripped, it will disable Turbo mode - thus you may see your cpu multiplier drop by 1x or 2x.
• TDP = thermal design power according to DFI is tripped at around >80W which will also disable Turbo mode
• Set VR Current Limit Max = Enable to disable both TDC and TDP protection functions thus allowing Turbo mode to run without any TDC/TDP protection.
• Thermal Management Control = Tripped when core temp is >90C, Turbo mode will disable. At >105C core temp, will force system shutdown.
• Only when 965 cpu is installed are 2 additional options for TDC/TDP displayed for TDC Enable: x TDC Limit: and TDP Enable: Disabled x TDP Limit: 0

So apparently, Set VR Current Limit Max = Enable is what you want to run turbo freely to the limits of your system hehe

sorry Eva don't get it i used 965 and set it to dissable but still can use it at 30x multi. and one silly question why my smart guardian don't work even try with one from the dfi web, i can run it but all the number there show 0. i'm using bios 01-23. tq.

[PRJ]

Get someone to flash your bios chip in theier motherboard. It does'nt need to be the same motherboard, just same bios chip size. I have flashed my previus DFI board bios chip in a Gigabyte motherboard.

[OverDozeD]

Hi all
What version BIOS is latest&stable?

[i7luver]

Get someone to flash your bios chip in theier motherboard. It does'nt need to be the same motherboard, just same bios chip size. I have flashed my previus DFI board bios chip in a Gigabyte motherboard.

i have access to a UD3p, which has a dual bios, i was wondering if it was possible to take the back up bios chip and exchange with mine, boot up with the original bios and flash the backup? This way its less dangerous than hot-flashing...

[i7luver]

never mind seems like the ud3p's bios is not removable

[eva2000]

sorry Eva don't get it i used 965 and set it to dissable but still can use it at 30x multi. and one silly question why my smart guardian don't work even try with one from the dfi web, i can run it but all the number there show 0. i'm using bios 01-23. tq.

965 has unlocked multi so you can use any multiplier without turbo mode anyway so set vr current limit max won't effect 965 in terms of turbo mode although i guess tdp and tdc will still be in effect ? As to SG no idea why never seen such a problem before sorry

Major problems with my DFI x58-T3eh8, firstly a minor one, my power led is always on, even when the computer is off, as long as the psu is connected to the power socket it stays on, secondly the hdd led is always on once my computer is on, I checked the leads, all correctly connected. So I thought maybe it was a bios issue, and it wasn't detecting one of my 3 sticks of ram as well, i'm guessing its probably a bad stick of ram, RMAing that tomorrow, anyways I flashed the bios to 02/06 beta using the bootable usb method, it goes into the bios flashing utility, goes through about 40 blocks, and there was one block which read write failed, then it restarted, now everytime I boot, the post code gets stuck at C1, I'm assuming the single sector that failed to write is causing this, I've tried swapping rams, using only one stick, everything, still stuck at C1. Everything I used was brand new, just got them today. Someone save me

Just rma the board as flash failed - you could try asking DFI for replacement bios chip but the power led on may be another separate issue or psu related.

Hi all
What version BIOS is latest&stable?

Every dfi bios released for this board has been stable AFAIK. Latest though official = 1/14 and beta 02/06 http://i4memory.com/f80/dfi-ut-x58-t...nge-log-13966/