Barbs!

[downforce]

This is a pretty quick question really ...

Getting my last few parts to make my loop and getting everything from Gammods, except their selection of in stock barbs is limited.

I was going to get D-Tek G1/4" to 1/2" High Flow from PCCG but with $18 postage that's more than the barbs themselves!

Gammods only have in stock the following bars (with G1/4" BSPP to 1/2"):
Danger Den Mini Stubby Barb
Danger Den Perfect Seal barb
Bitspower Black Sparkle
+ some compression barbs.

I'm a bit confused what the 'real' difference between these are, or am I trying to make it more complicated than it is? The fact the Perfect Fit is square/no ridges/round end vs the high flow which is longer/ridged/arrow head. How does this affect either performance of usability? I'm sure either are better than plastic ones?

Or should I just stick with the plastic ones and fight to get them on and off?

I already have some brand of High Flow on the Rad, but need/want them for my CPU/GFX/RES (pump is a MPC655B so don't need them here)

Considering I need 6, I didn't want to go compression barbs (at least not yet ) just due to the cost. Although if you really recommend I may consider it.

Thanks XSperts!

[Sparky]

If you think it is hard to get tubing on/off the plastic barbs, you don't want to even think about the perfectseals

Of those 3 listed I'd go the bitspower barbs. Actually I'd take these bitspower barbs, 45 cents cheaper
http://www.gammods.com.au/store/inde...oducts_id=1313

[moogle]

Those stubby ones are for if you have tight bends and stuff as in the barb isn't as long as others so you can start curving it earlier if you kinda understand what I mean.

I would go for the Bitspower ones they do look nice. Reminds me of the DD Fatboys.

[Sparky]

I would go for the Bitspower ones they do look nice. Reminds me of the DD Fatboys.

That's because the DD fatboys are actually made by bitspower and the exact same thing, just under DD's name

[MpG]

BP fittings. Those perfect seal fittings are a PITA, and I'm not convinced they're any more secure at all. Stubbys are for when you actually need them, and not otherwise.

[downforce]

Is there much/any visible difference between "Black Sparkle" and "Silver Shining" once you've put some tube on?

BTW, the tubing I was going to is the Tygon B-44-3 7/16". 2m should be enough right?

[Humminn55]

Second the BP barbs.....they are noticeably larger in their internal diameter than any other out there I've compared to...

And, personally, I'd buy more tubing than you think you'll need.... All you'd need to happen is cut a run of tubing a little short accidentally and not have a long enough length left to "fix" the problem because you bought "just enough" tubing. I buy 10 ft. lengths, kind of like 3m lengths......and I do have a fair bit left every time, but now I've got replacement runs so in case I add a block, remove one, etc.

[veedubfreak]

Save yourself the money now, and just buy compression fittings. No reason to buy 50 bucks worth of normal fittings when you could spend an extra couple bucks per fitting and just get compressions. I just ordered 12 bp compressions for 6.95 from jab-tech, thats only 2.50 more per barb, and you'll probably end up doing it later anyway.

[theseeker]

Second the BP barbs.....they are noticeably larger in their internal diameter than any other out there I've compared to...

And, personally, I'd buy more tubing than you think you'll need.... All you'd need to happen is cut a run of tubing a little short accidentally and not have a long enough length left to "fix" the problem because you bought "just enough" tubing. I buy 10 ft. lengths, kind of like 3m lengths......and I do have a fair bit left every time, but now I've got replacement runs so in case I add a block, remove one, etc.

+3 for BP

[Sparky]

Save yourself the money now, and just buy compression fittings. No reason to buy 50 bucks worth of normal fittings when you could spend an extra couple bucks per fitting and just get compressions. I just ordered 12 bp compressions for 6.95 from jab-tech, thats only 2.50 more per barb, and you'll probably end up doing it later anyway.

He's in AUS which is why the price per barb there is higher. Look on jabtech, normal barb is $2.50 (give or take a little bit) compression is nearly $7, you are close to 3x as much per fitting. Not to mention that you're buying extras since you aren't using the barbs that came with the waterblocks too. Compressions never saves money.

That's why I won't go compressions. The cost is way too high. I spent an extra $10 for metal barbs for my MCW60 and radiator instead of the plastic barbs and used the metal barbs that came with everything else (EK res, Petra's DDC top, Dtek fuzion). Going compressions would cost $70 at $7 a pop. No thanks.

[Brodholm]

Just a quick question. Are these the same barbs? http://www.petrastechshop.com/dadepofbofig.html and http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=22621

I bought some from petras. But now I need some more and I'm ordering stuff from performance-pcs. So I need them to be the same

/Brodholm

[funk32]

Second the BP barbs.....they are noticeably larger in their internal diameter than any other out there I've compared to...

And, personally, I'd buy more tubing than you think you'll need.... All you'd need to happen is cut a run of tubing a little short accidentally and not have a long enough length left to "fix" the problem because you bought "just enough" tubing. I buy 10 ft. lengths, kind of like 3m lengths......and I do have a fair bit left every time, but now I've got replacement runs so in case I add a block, remove one, etc.

+4 i just installed them in to my loop and i took a look and wow they are alot bigger then i would have thought between the 2 differnet barbs

[Sparky]

Just a quick question. Are these the same barbs? http://www.petrastechshop.com/dadepofbofig.html and http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=22621

I bought some from petras. But now I need some more and I'm ordering stuff from performance-pcs. So I need them to be the same

/Brodholm

Yes.

[veedubfreak]

He's in AUS which is why the price per barb there is higher. Look on jabtech, normal barb is $2.50 (give or take a little bit) compression is nearly $7, you are close to 3x as much per fitting. Not to mention that you're buying extras since you aren't using the barbs that came with the waterblocks too. Compressions never saves money.

That's why I won't go compressions. The cost is way too high. I spent an extra $10 for metal barbs for my MCW60 and radiator instead of the plastic barbs and used the metal barbs that came with everything else (EK res, Petra's DDC top, Dtek fuzion). Going compressions would cost $70 at $7 a pop. No thanks.

When i said save money i was meaning if he plans to get compressions later. He would end up double buying, so if he is thinking of going compressions, might as well do it the first time. Personally i decided to do compressions cause even with clamps i still dont feel comfortable leaving my rig on while i'm not home. With compressions i'll have the peace of mind that nothing is going to come loose.

[Sparky]

When i said save money i was meaning if he plans to get compressions later. He would end up double buying, so if he is thinking of going compressions, might as well do it the first time. Personally i decided to do compressions cause even with clamps i still dont feel comfortable leaving my rig on while i'm not home. With compressions i'll have the peace of mind that nothing is going to come loose.

Ah I see.

I doubt that 7/16" tubing over 1/2" barbs with wormdrive clamps is going to come loose I've not used compressions so I'm not sure exactly how tight they grab the tubing but there is no way this tubing can come off

[downforce]

Thanks for all your feedback!

Just ordered 8 of them (replace the other two, keep them all the same!) plus my 2m of tubing.

Once they arrive I'm all set to get this f***er installed!

[zeroibis]

I agree that compression is the way to go, however some people like the look of barbs and think that compression is too much bling. In addition, some people like to save every dollar they can and spend it somewhere else.

Personally I will go compression every time because it helps me sleep at night

[veedubfreak]

I agree that compression is the way to go, however some people like the look of barbs and think that compression is too much bling. In addition, some people like to save every dollar they can and spend it somewhere else.

Personally I will go compression every time because it helps me sleep at night

Heh, this build. After spending 260 on a new power supply. 300+ on waterblocks, and 3 gtx285s, whats an extra 100 bucks on compressions

[Waterlogged]

Ah I see.

I doubt that 7/16" tubing over 1/2" barbs with wormdrive clamps is going to come loose I've not used compressions so I'm not sure exactly how tight they grab the tubing but there is no way this tubing can come off

This should give you some idea Sparky. As for mixing sizes between compressions and tubing, I really don't recommend it.

[veedubfreak]

That poor compression fitting *rip*

[Sparky]

This should give you some idea Sparky. As for mixing sizes between compressions and tubing, I really don't recommend it.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&d=1218962250

Looks like to me a barb with a wormdrive would be more secure then, as there is much more surface area under clamping pressure. Not saying that a compression isn't enough - since wormdrives really are kind of overkill as they are used more in higher pressure systems than we run - but just saying that if you're worried about it then wormdrives should help you sleep best at night