** Official ** Gigabyte UD3 P45 Series -- EP45-UD3 / EP45-UD3R / EP45-UD3P

[nugzo]

I'm just curious if anybody hates the UD3P as much as I do.

Here are some of the problems. I start in windows, set my EasyTune 6 settings and run my Q6600 at 3.8ghz on prime for 4 hours no issues. I then re-start my pc, set those exact same settings in the bios and the pc does not start at all. It just cycles on and off for a few minutes (nothing i can do about that) until finally it works and takes me to the bios. In the bios, my voltages are COMPLETELY off.

example: my MCH Refference should be 0.76V and sometimes in the bios it is .86, sometimes it is .6V - and this is completely random. this is not the only setting this happens to. My MCH/Dram reference voltage is sometimes WAY below stock which is why sometime my pc doesn't boot at all.

After struggling for half an hour at a time to start my pc, I decide to set everything on auto. Upon entering windows ET6 reads my CPU PLL at 1.85V ....

I have to say I am very mad because of this. Sorry for this highly negative post, but I do not understand why my settings do not stay put in the bios, and sometimes the voltages that go through my pc are quite dangerous..... I'm using the latest bios, F7 I beleive. Does anybody have any idea what may be going on here? I have never had this much trouble with any motherboard before.....

edit. Another example. My cpu termination should be 1.38 volts. My pc started with it at 1.5volts....
my final problem is that no matter what, I cannot run my ram at stock speeds. I should be able to do 1066 at 5-5-5-15 timings. I cannot go over 844 at 5-7-7-20....

That said, when I DO get it running properly, it runs stable as can be.

We'd love to help you... but we need a lot more info. Pleas post a bios template.

[adpr_02]

How do I do that?

[radaja]

adpr 02,heres a post that might help you understand what ET6 shows and what to set in bios.http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1157

[adpr_02]

daaaaaaaaamn, hopefully this link sheds some light on the issue. From skimming over it, I don't see any explanation of why my cpu PLL voltage would jump to 1.85 in ET6 though, as it is not a reference voltage (is that right?). And there is still the problem of not being able to run my ram at stock speeds.

Either way, I'll go give it a good read and see if I can determine the proper voltages.

[adpr_02]

Alright, I don't know if I'm just being an idiot, or if I fried my brains doing physics today, but I don't get how that works. Here are the settings that I was completely stable with... although the VTT was different in the bios. I Beleive it was 1.24 or something like that. I don't know if the VTT that I set on ET6 counts.

Is this enough info to be able to tell what voltages I should put in the bios? And yeah, my pc is not stable anymore with these exact settings put in ET6. Just BSOD'd 5 times.

Here's the link:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/adpr_02/OC-1.png

[radaja]

adpr 02,have been setting things in ET6 (voltages)? if so make sure it is not set to load values upon reboot.

[adpr_02]

adpr 02,have been setting things in ET6 (voltages)? if so make sure it is not set to load values upon reboot.

Yeah, I have. That is how I overclocked this processor to begin with. It is not set to load on boot. The program isn't set to start-up upon re-start.

I'm just wondering how those ET6 settings would look like in the bios, since with those setting I was completely stable. I don't feel like starting from scratch again... Btw, what are the max voltages you'd put for the various options?

[radaja]

one thing you have to remember is that ET6 just show % values for ref volt so you cant go into the bios and put 0.76 and expect it to work.have you tried fatguy1992's template?

B Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto 
CPU Clock Ratio .......................: 9 
CPU Frequency .........................: 3.6GHz (400X9)

Clock Chip Control 

Standard Clock Control

CPU Host Clock Control.................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 400 
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ...........: 100 
C.I.A.2 ...............................: [Disabled] 

Advanced Clock Control

CPU Clock Drive........................: Default
PCI Express Clock Drive................: Default
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps 
MCH Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps 

DRAM Performance Control

Performance Enhance....................: Standard
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)........: Disabled 
(G)MCH Frequency Latch.................: 400MHz 
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.0D 
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ................: 800MHz

DRAM Timing Selectable ................:  

Standard Timing Control

CAS Latency Time.......................: 5 
tRCD ..................................: 5 
tRP'...................................: 5 
tRAS...................................: 15 

Advanced Timing Control

Everything In Advanced Timing Control on auto.  

Motherboard Voltage Control

CPU

Load-Line Calibration..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Vcore..............................: 1.45
CPU Termination........................: 1.3V
CPU PLL................................: 1.50V
CPU Reference..........................: 0.823 to 0.863 

MCH/ICH

MCH Core...............................: 1.2V  
Reference..........................: 0.823 to 0.863
MCH/DRAM Ref...........................: 1.0v
ICH I/O................................: 1.5V 
ICH Core...............................: 1.100V 

DRAM
DRAM Voltage...........................: 2.0v
DRAM Termination ......................: 1.0v 
Channel A Reference....................: 1.0v
Channel B Reference ...................: 1.0v

read this too.http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=983

[adpr_02]

Well, Fatman's settings did not work for me at all. I then got pissed off and just put random (liberal) voltages through everything but the Reference voltages which I set to auto, and for some reason I managed to boot in windows, and have been priming for 10 minutes.....

I would still like someone to explain what's going on here, because I want to actually understand what I am doing.

Anybody know what the max safe voltages are for the motherboard and the quad? I still have that image of the VPLL at 1.85 V in my mind.

[EliTE22]

Well, Fatman's settings did not work for me at all. I then got pissed off and just put random (liberal) voltages through everything but the Reference voltages which I set to auto, and for some reason I managed to boot in windows, and have been priming for 10 minutes.....

I would still like someone to explain what's going on here, because I want to actually understand what I am doing.

Anybody know what the max safe voltages are for the motherboard and the quad? I still have that image of the VPLL at 1.85 V in my mind.

i'm guessing ur using ET6 to overclock??? dont, just go into the bio, and change setting, and dont use ET6 and see if u still have troubles. btw: pll 1.85v is high, 1.65v pll should be more than enough for the clock u r trying to run
edit: i never used ET6, maybe try uninstalling it than using the bios to oc, also when it is turning on and off it means failed to boot, failed oc and it trys to recover with stock bios settings, did u mean your mobo boots after this with different voltage everything and way off stock???

[fatguy1992]

i'm guessing ur using ET6 to overclock??? dont, just go into the bio, and change setting, and dont use ET6 and see if u still have troubles. btw: pll 1.85v is high, 1.65v pll should be more than enough for the clock u r trying to run
edit: i never used ET6, maybe try uninstalling it than using the bios to oc, also when it is turning on and off it means failed to boot, failed oc and it trys to recover with stock bios settings, did u mean your mobo boots after this with different voltage everything and way off stock???

I'v only used ET6 to tweak some settings a few times. But yeah ET6 isn't good for setting up a 24/7 overclock etc.

[adpr_02]

i'm guessing ur using ET6 to overclock??? dont, just go into the bio, and change setting, and dont use ET6 and see if u still have troubles. btw: pll 1.85v is high, 1.65v pll should be more than enough for the clock u r trying to run
edit: i never used ET6, maybe try uninstalling it than using the bios to oc, also when it is turning on and off it means failed to boot, failed oc and it trys to recover with stock bios settings, did u mean your mobo boots after this with different voltage everything and way off stock???

Yeah, bro. I'd never go above 1.57v myself. I didn't select that 1.85V setting, ET6 did. Seriously, there's nothing "easy" about that program.

Well, now that I learnt to stay away from the reference voltages, I got my processor stable at 3.8ghz, primed for 2 hours. It's also stable at 3.9Ghz (primed for 15 minutes) but needs a voltage of 1.53v which is a bit high for my tastes. I'm now reading the GTL Reference voltage thread to see if I can reach any higher, with about 1.5v.

I'll think about it. 3.9 seems so tempting especially since my temperatures don't exceed 60C...

Still. What do you guys think should be the max VTT and MCH core voltage I should put through my setup? I'd rather increase those 2 from now on and leave my Vcore alone.

[Ghostleader]

Just manage to the first Hitz on Crucial Kit 2.40B strap.... 550x8 PL 10- 11I'm give up right now Just see the same score on memory benchmark compare with 533x8 PL 9 it's the same. and can manage to get stable easier

P.s.Notice that Mch core over 1.22 can't boot up with 2.40B strap

That explains it why I can´t run 1200MHz with my Q9650@500, it craves 1,28v with 500 and 1000 555 15.

[Phunky Phish]

Does anyone here think I could get to 533fsb?
What settings should I be looking at to move the fsb up further?

471x8.5=4Ghz

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)     
     
Robust Graphics Booster ..................:   Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................:    8
Fine CPU Clock Ratio......................:    +0.5  
CPU Frequency ............................:     4.00Ghz (471x8.5)
      
Clock Chip Control      
Standard Clock Control      
CPU Host Clock Control....................:      [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) .................:    471
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ..............:      100
C.I.A. 2..................................:       [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control     
CPU Clock Drive...........................:       800mV
PCI Express Clock Drive...................:     900mV
CPU Clock Skew (ps).......................:       0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps).......................:      0ps
     
DRAM Performance Control      
Performance Enhance......................:  Turbo
MCH Frequency Latch......................:     400
System Memory Multiplier ................:     2.00D
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..................:       950
DRAM Timing Selectable ..................:     Manual

Standard Timing Control     
CAS Latency Time.........................:     5
tRCD ....................................:     5
tRP......................................:      5
tRAS.....................................:       15
Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]      
tRRD.....................................:     Auto
tWTR.....................................:      Auto
tWR......................................:       Auto
tRFC.....................................:     Auto
tRTP.....................................:    Auto
Command Rate (CMD) ......................:  2T   
Channel A      
Channel A Timings Settings       
Static tRead Value......................:   12

Channel B      
Channel B Timings Settings       
Static tRead Value......................:  12
      
Motherboard Voltage Control      

Load-Line Calibration.....................:      Disabled
CPU Vcore...............1.22500V..........:     1.41250v
CPU Termination.........1.200V............:       1.30v
CPU PLL.................1.500V............:     1.570v
CPU Reference...........0.760V............:     0.863v
MCH/ICH      
MCH Core................1.100V............:   1.36v
MCH Reference...........0.760V............:  0.863v
MCH/DRAM Reference......0.900V............:      0.96v
ICH I/O.................1.500V............:     1.500v
ICH Core................1.100V............:     1.100v
DRAM      
DRAM Voltage............1.800V............:  2.1v
DRAM Termination........0.900V............:      0.96v
Channel A Address Vref..0.900V............:      0.96v
Channel B Address Vref..0.900V............:      0.96v

Advanced Settings      
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................:       Disabled
No-Execute Memory Protect.................:     Enabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...................:       Disabled
C2/C2E State Support......................:  Disabled
x C4/C4E State Support....................: Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...............: Disabled
CPU EIST Function.........................: Disabled
Virtualization Technology.................: Enabled 

Thank you all for your help.

[nugzo]

I would still like someone to explain what's going on here, because I want to actually understand what I am doing.

Anybody know what the max safe voltages are for the motherboard and the quad? I still have that image of the VPLL at 1.85 V in my mind.

I suggest you read this entire thread. It should answer ALL of your questions.

[xbiusx]

I`m really don`t know what i can do to get stable over 500 FSB... Now i`m playing with 520 but my goal is 530, But i tried every possible combination in BIOS and in ET6 but doesn`t work very well, With settings below i can run ORTHOS small FTT for 20 min then program crash. Blend test fails immediately. I saw many people getting stable at 550, 540... etc, i believe i can do that as well just need figure out how.

[Leeghoofd]

Lower NB voltage to 1.36, set PL 11 and set more Ram voltage try eg 2.12, ram timings at 5-5-5-18 ( my board undervolts 0.07 )

[OC Nub]

Trying to get max oc on stock volts. Ran LinX and passed at 3.7ghz. Tried 3.8 but screen locked up.
Having a lot of fun with this motherboard.

[bobreece]

hey guys finally pick the ram am getting (http://1582.tchosts3.net/TEMPLATES/T...2DOC%2D4GK1066) but forgot to ask will the ud3p run this ram as its not in the compatiable list but niether is the ram i run now?

[EliTE22]

Does anyone here think I could get to 533fsb?
What settings should I be looking at to move the fsb up further?

yeah i think u could do it easy with good enough cooling, take a look at my template in this thread it for 4.6 and 4.7ghz but with a little lower vcore and term. and lower mch core it should work great (also in it i didnt use LLC but u will want to is easyer to get stable) is in page 30s or so , im going to update a few template for q9550 and ud3p in a day or so for: 4.0ghz, 4.4ghz, 4.5ghz, 4.6ghz, 4.7ghz, so that should help

[Cutbait]

I've been running on the old 975X chipset for the past 2 years (XBX2). With the low price and performance of the UD3P I decided to make the jump to the p45 platform.

Not a max OC or benchmark kind of a guy, just trying to get the most out of my old stuff. And have some fun doing it.

I have my UD3P paired up with 4x1gb Ballistix 8500's (2 tracers & 2 non tracers) almost 2 years old (double sidded 16fd3)
And a Q6700 on a TRUE purchased back in May, L803B batch, 1.275 vid

I did play around with the 10x multiplier a bit to see how high I could clock the Q6700 and max out memory speed.
I have more work to do here as settings below are not completely stable. (LLCalibration enabled on this 65nm chip)

377X10

MCH Frequency latch: 333
System Memory Multiplier: 320B
Memory Frequency: 1066 1206
5-5-5-15
tRRD: 4
tWTR: 4
tWR: 8
tRFC: 56
tRTP:4
CR: 2
Performance level 6, rest of ram stuff on auto

Vcore: 1.51875 (1.488 actual no vdroop)
CPU Term: 1.300
CPU PLL: 1.590
CPU Ref: 0.863
MCH Core: 1.280
MCH Ref: 0.863
ICH IO: 1500
ICH Core: 1.100
Dram voltage: 2.24 (2.22 actual)

Settings above passed 15x IntelBurnTest, 22 hours of memtest 2.11, and 10 hours small FFT Prime95. But fails under Prime95 large FFT pretty quick. Proc not stable, probably need to tweak Reference stuff.
But I do believe my 4x1gb ballistix are stable with the settings above @1206, Performance level 6, with 2.22 volts actual to sticks. Not to bad.

1.51875 Vcore is a bit to hot for a 24/7 setup for me. Core temps up to 83c under IntelBurnTest scares me a bit. Might try like 373x10 later


I've been running 463x8 (3.70) on the 333 latch, 240B Multiplier for the last 2 weeks. Puts memory @ DDR-2 1111. Best performance level achieved is 8. Vcore 1.4875 (1.456 actual) 2.08 volts to ram.
Temps are fine. 77C under load IntelBurnTest, 62C Prime95 large fft.

Passed everything I've thrown at it:
21 hours Prime95 Blend
20 hours Prime95 Large FFT
Total of 30x IntelBurnTest

Templates and pics of 463x8 Incuded (just hope this newbie can add attachments ok)

Using bios 7 final

All the info posted here made this OC a breeze.

Special thanks to:

Lsdmeasap
C-N
Fatguy1992
gampamu

[xbiusx]

Lower NB voltage to 1.36, set PL 11 and set more Ram voltage try eg 2.12, ram timings at 5-5-5-18 ( my board undervolts 0.07 )

Didn`t work out, nbvoltage 1.36~1.42 pl 9~12 and the crazy thing when i rise my RAM voltage i can`t boot so i figure out that i have problem with DRAM Vtt, even leaving on NORMAL, (that suppose to leave on stock voltage) doesn`t work, that is very annoying cause i have to set manually the DRAM vtt...

So any suggestion or i have to give up and stop on 500 fsb lol

[Leeghoofd]

Thing is I first put all the stock values myself ( for the reference volts as this mobo's bios have very good algorythms ) Then I start to adjust Vdimm, FSB term and co and you will see that the values change by themselves... and they should work or allow you to post... then later on you can adjust

500FSB should be a breeze on this mobo... I woudl try with only two dimms and if it works swap them rams with the other pair

[Phunky Phish]

yeah i think u could do it easy with good enough cooling, take a look at my template in this thread it for 4.6 and 4.7ghz but with a little lower vcore and term. and lower mch core it should work great (also in it i didnt use LLC but u will want to is easyer to get stable) is in page 30s or so , im going to update a few template for q9550 and ud3p in a day or so for: 4.0ghz, 4.4ghz, 4.5ghz, 4.6ghz, 4.7ghz, so that should help

Your a star EliTE!!

Will be keeping my eyes open for your post and looking through the 30's!

If I could get 533x8.5 or even 533x8 would be awsome

Though I might need to speed my fans up I think as its hitting about 65c when loaded. The PA120.2 will handle it, just not with these Sharkoons 1000s running at 5v!

[systemviper]

yeah i think u could do it easy with good enough cooling, take a look at my template in this thread it for 4.6 and 4.7ghz but with a little lower vcore and term. and lower mch core it should work great (also in it i didnt use LLC but u will want to is easyer to get stable) is in page 30s or so , im going to update a few template for q9550 and ud3p in a day or so for: 4.0ghz, 4.4ghz, 4.5ghz, 4.6ghz, 4.7ghz, so that should help

Hi, let us know when you have updated those templates, that is some great work!