Intel is initiating a C0 to D0 stepping conversion for Core i7 920

**FischOderAal** · 02-01-2009, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by FUGGER

D stepping is capable of a much higher clock frequency, it will get easier to find a 5Ghz chip and we should see a lot more around 5.5Ghz on average.

My eyes must be tricking me. 5.5 GHz on average?! Or did you mean 4.5?

€dith: 4.5 seems more reasonable for me, taking the first part of the sentence into account.

Originally Posted by T_Flight

I cannot empahsize enough how much I love these new chips. They really are awesome.

There's a point where opinion is glorification above reasoning. Do you need to write such things under nearly every of your posts? Don't you think we know now? *sigh*

Sorry, I don't mean to offend you but I can't help myself.

**ColonelCain** · 02-01-2009, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by FUGGER

Core to core transactions and multithreaded applications will get the largest gain over C stepping, cores are equal clock for clock as C stepping.

These will show up as stepping 5.

D stepping runs at lower thermals, much lower from what I have seen.

920 is the first announced, not sure why but other models will also arrive as D stepping.

D stepping is capable of a much higher clock frequency, it will get easier to find a 5Ghz chip and we should see a lot more around 5.5Ghz on average.

Ahh, so this is like a C0>E0 stepping sort of thing.

Too bad I'm probably going to wait until the refresh comes out.

**STaRGaZeR** · 02-01-2009, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by FischOderAal

There's a point where opinion is glorification above reasoning. Do you need to write such things under nearly every of your posts? Don't you think we know now? *sigh*

Sorry, I don't mean to offend you but I can't help myself.

Put him on ignore and case solved.

**FischOderAal** · 02-01-2009, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR

Put him on ignore and case solved.

It needs much more than that before I put someone on ignore.

It was more meant as an information, it doesn't bother me that much. If he keeps on doing this, it's his choice. Damn, it's hard to express myself in english. I just hope nobody gets me wrong.

**T_Flight** · 02-01-2009, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by FischOderAal

There's a point where opinion is glorification above reasoning. Do you need to write such things under nearly every of your posts? Don't you think we know now? *sigh*

Sorry, I don't mean to offend you but I can't help myself.

Oh boy...another smart allic that's compelled to let verbal diahreah fly out.

Do YOU need to write such things? No need to show your personal problems. I'll write praise when it's deserved, and yes, it might just be in every post. Who is "we"?

Edited: BTW I also saw that stupid remark from stargazer. Quite ironic since he earned a spot in my Ignore list long ago...please don't quote him. I don't wanna see his ramblings.

**Vapor** · 02-01-2009, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by FischOderAal

My eyes must be tricking me. 5.5 GHz on average?! Or did you mean 4.5?

€dith: 4.5 seems more reasonable for me, taking the first part of the sentence into account.

5.5Ghz under the cold stuff. And 5GHz on air for maybe some benching action (1M at least).

Originally Posted by T_Flight

Oh boy...another smart allic that's compelled to let verbal diahreah fly out.

Do YOU need to write such things? No need to show your personal problems. I'll write praise when it's deserved, and yes, it might just be in every post. Who is "we"?

Edited: BTW I also saw that stupid remark from stargazer. Quite ironic since he earned a spot in my Ignore list long ago...please don't quote him. I don't wanna see his ramblings.

WTF? Chill out....

That goes for both sides of this

**TurboDiv** · 02-01-2009, 04:32 PM

New stepping is all nice and great but i really want better mobos for this platform. As of now there are only 2-3 mobos that are worth looking into and they all have some sort of BIOS issue or slot positioning that turns me away...

**Solus Corvus** · 02-01-2009, 04:59 PM

Something to look forward to.

**Utnorris** · 02-01-2009, 05:41 PM

I don't think Fugger meant 5.5Ghz for a 920. That would have to be 275x20 unless we are talking about Turbo mode and it still would be a big jump in blck, 260x21. On a 965 I could see it since you can adjust the multi, but not on the 920. But we will see. I hope it's true as that would be a heck of a stepping revision.

**ap4lifetn** · 02-01-2009, 06:12 PM

how are they improved over the C stepping if they're equal to clock for clock performance? and it'll run cooler?

**eva2000** · 02-01-2009, 06:24 PM

hmmm wonder if there will be a revision of the x58 later too ?

**The[R]eaper** · 02-01-2009, 09:27 PM

damn i was gonna order i7 setup this week but looks like im gonna have to wait for this and the ballistix tracer 3x2gb kits.
so about 1-2 months for it to hit retail channels?

**Vozer** · 02-01-2009, 09:38 PM

I rewatched FUGGER and DrWho's Video of 5Ghz air cool Core i7 and discovered that the CPU was a Core i7 975 3.33GHz Stepping D0.

Considering Intel's latest roadmap, I think we may see this baby in April or May.

**highoctane** · 02-01-2009, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by eva2000

hmmm wonder if there will be a revision of the x58 later too ?

Yeah, if they manage to tweak more clock potential into the 920's we're going to be wanting some boards that can really push the bclock as well.

I wasn't extremely happy with my first 920 chip since it was limited to 3.8ghz with HT on my 2nd 920 does 4ghz with HT on no problem at less voltage than the first chip at 3.8.

New stepping are always nice, bug fixes and more clock potential, win/win.

**Utnorris** · 02-01-2009, 11:33 PM

Yeah, even with the new stepping I don't think we can expect to see more than 210-220 blck average since I believe it's the IMC that is holding us back and too high of a blck may be too much for the IMC to handle.

**FischOderAal** · 02-02-2009, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by Vapor

5.5Ghz under the cold stuff. And 5GHz on air for maybe some benching action (1M at least).

Allright, thank you for clearing things up

Originally Posted by T_Flight

...

As I said, I didn't mean to offend you. I guess you are though, so I have to apologize. I hope you accept it, sorry!

**~~TheKarmakazi~~** · 02-02-2009, 06:48 AM

This is exactly why I didnt go out and buy a i7 965.... the 975 will def be it

**Vinas** · 02-02-2009, 07:45 AM

One thing is for sure, if the 920 starts getting higher clocks I might actually get one over the Q9650. For me though I'm not quite ready for a new motherboard and the Q9650 price drop is really nice!

**Charles Wirth** · 02-02-2009, 07:49 AM

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=216495

i7 975 D0

**Hazzan** · 02-02-2009, 08:19 AM

I hope we can reach higher BCLK with this new Stepping ...................

**G0ldBr1ck** · 02-02-2009, 08:20 AM

I finely broke down and ordered a 920 yesterday. If I had a good idea of how long till we see these new chips I would probly return it and wait longer.

**adamsleath** · 02-02-2009, 08:24 AM

920 d0 sounds tasty.

**duploxxx** · 02-02-2009, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Vozer

I rewatched FUGGER and DrWho's Video of 5Ghz air cool Core i7 and discovered that the CPU was a Core i7 975 3.33GHz Stepping D0.

So that is how drwho was able to confirm his oc statement, he required a new i7 stepping that oc'd better

isn't that cheating according to him

**~~Zucker2k~~** · 02-02-2009, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by duploxxx

So that is how drwho was able to confirm his oc statement, he required a new i7 stepping that oc'd better

isn't that cheating according to him

Better a new stepping than disabling sensors, don't you agree? Anyway, let's not derail this thread. The DO stepping looks promising, but I'm sticking to s775 for the foreseeable future.

**drifter** · 02-02-2009, 08:49 AM

This is the very reason i did not go for the 965, i knew something better was round the corner. i'm hoping for some 4.5G on chilled water for 24/7.

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