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    ^^Thanks for the encouragement, I'll keep pushing and let you know how it goes

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    P95 failed after 1hr 15min. Raised the vcore from 1.280 to 1.296 and trying again...

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    Hi everyone , today I tried to set 8x565 but it was impossible for me , so I need some help, if someone can post BIOS settings for 8x565. My CPU is 8600 (Q822A444), MB MIIF and 4GB Corsair Dominator 1:1(1130). I need a point to start pls help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CryptiK View Post
    Under full load on a hot day my board's PWM gets to 46*C+, this is using a true with no real direct airflow over PWM sinks except case rear and top fans pullng air past them. Guys with quads, especially watercooled, report PWM temps over 55*C. I'm not sure what constitutes 'too hot' though.
    I have used the supplied Asus fan on the PWM beside the back panel which also helps cool the NB thanks to the heat pipe and the psu fan is sucking air over the other set which has a huge heatsink on it so I really dont think it would be worthwhile to watercool them. Asus knew this board would get watercooled, they even collaborated with Swiftech to produce a NB block just for it http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24408

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevin View Post
    Hi everyone , today I tried to set 8x565 but it was impossible for me , so I need some help, if someone can post BIOS settings for 8x565. My CPU is 8600 (Q822A444), MB MIIF and 4GB Corsair Dominator 1:1(1130). I need a point to start pls help.
    Nevin, best place to start is the guide Simps wrote I think. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2718
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    Can I use this Setting for the Q9650

    This is my setting for the E8400 (Stable)

    I will be getting the Q9650 soon
    I would like to know if I can use the same setting or where to modify

    Extreme Tweaker
    Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual
    - Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
    FSB Frequency : 450
    CPU Clock Skew : Normal
    North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
    FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-850 MHz
    Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Normal
    DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
    Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Normal
    Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


    DRAM Timing Control: Manual
    CAS# Latency : 5
    RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
    RAS# Precharge : 5
    RAS# ActivateTime : 15
    RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
    Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
    Write Recovery Time : 8
    Read to Precharge Time : 5

    Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
    Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
    Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
    Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
    Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
    Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
    Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

    Write to PRE Delay : Auto
    Read to PRE Delay : Auto
    PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
    ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
    ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

    DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
    Dram Read Training : disabled
    MEM OC Charger : disabled
    Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
    Transaction Booster : Manual

    Common Performance Level: 10

    Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

    PCIE Frequency : 100

    CPU Voltage : 1.36250v
    CPU PLL Voltage : 1.51325v
    FSBT : 1.2v
    DRAM Voltage : 2.1v
    North Bridge Voltage : 1.32525v
    South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
    South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

    CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
    CPU GTL Reference 1 : Auto
    CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
    CPU GTL Reference 3 : Auto
    North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
    North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

    Load Line Calabration : Enabled
    CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

    CPU Configuration:

    Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
    C1E Support: Disabled
    Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
    Intel Virtualization Tech: Enable
    CPU TM Function: Disabled
    Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

    Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
    CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
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    Using only 1.22v-1.24v now and trying to get cpu 24/7 stable @ 3.9ghz...

    How do I change the VTT voltage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celcius View Post
    Using only 1.22v-1.24v now and trying to get cpu 24/7 stable @ 3.9ghz...

    How do I change the VTT voltage?
    Go with Simp's guide - it covers everything basically and even if it would not get u where u want while proceeding with it you will learn all the voltages and how to adjust them (options too) so u can make your adjustments knowing what r u doing.

    And if u insist on quick quide:

    1. Test highest or target stable ram clock - with mem test 2.1. (u know ram is not a problem)
    2. Test target cpu speed with P95 Small ftt. (u know cpu can make it)
    3. Test MOBO at target FSB and CPU and RAM with IBT or linx as starter 10 loops and for finall stability 12h+ with P95 blend.

    At point 3 u will see what for is vtt :P and GTLs.

    But just use Simps guide it is detailed and really good starter.

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    eSATA.....
    Anyone getting this to work in Windows XP Pro?

    I loaded Marvel SATA driver and that completely wracked the system even causing my DVD drive to disappear. Now it is uninstalled. I do have Marvell controller IDE/esata enabled in BIOS.

    I am trying to get the Thermaltake BlacX USB & eSATA docking station to work with eSATA. USB works well. Any help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATLNY View Post
    This is my setting for the E8400 (Stable)

    I will be getting the Q9650 soon
    I would like to know if I can use the same setting or where to modify

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    Extreme Tweaker
    Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual
    - Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
    FSB Frequency : 450
    CPU Clock Skew : Normal
    North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
    FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-850 MHz 
    Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Normal
    DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
    Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Normal
    Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal
    
    
    DRAM Timing Control: Manual
    CAS# Latency : 5
    RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
    RAS# Precharge : 5
    RAS# ActivateTime : 15
    RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
    Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
    Write Recovery Time : 8
    Read to Precharge Time : 5
    
    Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
    Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
    Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
    Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
    Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
    Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
    Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
    
    Write to PRE Delay : Auto
    Read to PRE Delay : Auto
    PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
    ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
    ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto
    
    DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
    Dram Read Training : disabled
    MEM OC Charger : disabled
    Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
    Transaction Booster : Manual
    
    Common Performance Level: 10 
    
    Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
    
    PCIE Frequency : 100
    
    CPU Voltage : 1.36250v
    CPU PLL Voltage : 1.51325v
    FSBT : 1.2v
    DRAM Voltage : 2.1v
    North Bridge Voltage : 1.32525v
    South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
    South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1
    
    CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
    CPU GTL Reference 1 : Auto
    CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
    CPU GTL Reference 3 : Auto
    North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
    North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO
    
    Load Line Calabration : Enabled
    CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled  
    
    CPU Configuration:
    
    Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
    C1E Support: Disabled
    Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
    Intel Virtualization Tech: Enable
    CPU TM Function: Disabled
    Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
    
    Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
    CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
    You should not start a new cpu OC at 4Ghz. At that point there may be multiple problems and if so getting it stable will be a nightmare. You need to work up from a lower point (preferably stock speed with all stock voltages for board/ram/cpu) and find what settings you need to increase and alter along the way.

    Start with the ram 1:1 and PL10, later you can try and find what the best divider is for your ram at the FSB you end up at.
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    grnfinger,is this the WC kit you were talking about?it looks like it has the right block. http://www.coolerguys.com/840556020998.html
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    If you change your NB strap do you have to change your GTL Ref's again?

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    You mean NB GTL Ref? Not sure really, I choose strap/ram speed etc then tune NB GTL. NB GTL is mostly dependent on FSB and ram speed/timings, but strap can theoretically affect it. Also testing NB GTL Ref using games is also important. You can be stress test stable and crash out of games in seconds/minutes if your NB GTL Ref is not correct.
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    Thanks

    I'm looking at all the possible values on Simp's guide and noticed that the value for cores 0&2 is always higher than the value for cores 1&3. Is that always going to be true?

    Also, VTT = FSB termination voltage right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Looks good, the Thermaltake Extreme Spirit vers 1 and II NB/SB cooler works also
    hi all.. just want to say thanks to cryptix for give me guide for the washer mode..now nb temp drop from 54c to 34c..so happy coz just litle bit work as easy 123 then the temp all improve..cheer for the good guide..
    i m using tunic tx2 with properly using 1 washer each screww and 2 washer for the n/b..
    this my result while oc.e86


    last time oc e84..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Celcius View Post
    Thanks

    I'm looking at all the possible values on Simp's guide and noticed that the value for cores 0&2 is always higher than the value for cores 1&3. Is that always going to be true?

    Also, VTT = FSB termination voltage right?
    Yes 0/2 will (usually*) be higher than 1/3 as 0/2 use use the 0.635x multi and 1/3 use the 0.667x multi, and yes, Vtt is FSB termination also denoted as vFSB).

    * - you can of course set the GTL Refs to whatever you want, you could use 20/20/20/20 if it worked better for you. Dont limit yourself to a few orthodox choices. try as many combos as you can, just remember/write down what was stable so you don't get lost.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mypejon View Post
    hi all.. just want to say thanks to cryptix for give me guide for the washer mode..now nb temp drop from 54c to 34c..so happy coz just litle bit work as easy 123 then the temp all improve..cheer for the good guide..
    i m using tunic tx2 with properly using 1 washer each screww and 2 washer for the n/b..
    this my result while oc.e86
    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24...gztemp40-1.jpg

    last time oc e84..

    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/faizun/45zz.jpg
    No problem glad it worked out for you. Your temps look very good now, much better than 70*C on NB. Congratulations on reaching 4500 MHz Is that stable or just screen shot?
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    Afraid I'll be resigning from the MIIF club, I got my replacement back and put it up on eBay and I have a bid. Wish I could say it was fun while it lasted.

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    when doing the GTL's, is "auto" the same thing as 0mV? i want to set it to +40 for core 0/2 and zero for core 1/3, but there's only choices for -5mV and +10mV with nothing in between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radaja View Post
    grnfinger,is this the WC kit you were talking about?it looks like it has the right block. http://www.coolerguys.com/840556020998.html
    Yes sir thats the one, its a great all in one kit for first timers, and lots of room for upgrades, but really the only upgrade for that kit will be bigger better rad later on

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    grnfinger,thanks,there is the same kit but the plus version the only difference is the gpu block added for 100 extra,i think i might get that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An View Post
    Afraid I'll be resigning from the MIIF club, I got my replacement back and put it up on eBay and I have a bid. Wish I could say it was fun while it lasted.
    Good luck with the sale. Hope you have better experiences with other boards.

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteFireDragon View Post
    when doing the GTL's, is "auto" the same thing as 0mV? i want to set it to +40 for core 0/2 and zero for core 1/3, but there's only choices for -5mV and +10mV with nothing in between.
    Yes 'auto' is the same as '0mv'
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    Quote Originally Posted by CryptiK View Post
    Good luck with the sale. Hope you have better experiences with other boards.
    I'm having a lot of fun with my Gigabyte UD3P, and I may get a DFI UT P45 at some point. Of course now that I'm getting rid of my MIIF, I'm sure Asus will release some super BIOS update that fixes all the problems and turns it into a monster memory overclocker

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    it doubt it.if they havent done it by now,i fear they may never get around to it.im sure theyre working on the latest stuff now.but hope is always a good thing.its what keeps us moving forward in life.
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    After alot of tweaking, This board just refuses 500FSB. I had 490 stable for an hour than it did the same crash as 500FSB, so 485x8.5 is AWESOME.

    I used the NB GTL at +30 thanks to Simps, which got it solid no problem. then i put my CPU GTL to +20/-20/+20/-20 which got me 4.144Ghz with 1 NOTCH OF VCORE BUMP!!! I went from 1.3875 @ 450x9 (4.05Ghz) to 485x8.5 (4.14Ghz) with 1.39175!

    Amazing. but i tried all GTL differences and 500FSB is a no go, 490 is possible but meh. This is fast.

    My memory is slacking now though, currently using 400Mhz strap @ 970 1:1 with the ram, but im getting 1150 ram and i can use the 333 strap and set it to 1177.

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    the last time i tried esata, it just ruined my windows install.
    do you have to plug it all in, then turn the power on?

    also, will the speedinghdd ports handle 2 seperate drives not in any raid mode?
    i wanna swap back to single drives instead of raid-0, but like the fact that its on a pcie lane rather than the useless pci bottlenecked bus.

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