Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

[Simps]

roughly 15 seconds from pressing spacebar to seeing desktop

Hey Pyr0, is miss your DDR2 CL3 680i everest memory bandwidths / latency stuff. Those were good days!

[Pyr0]

hehehe, lo m8... ahh those were the days lol
not rly much of a bencher these days tho, i just like having a nice quick system

[edit] i've still got that board & mem too

[gFiz]

i resume out of sleep mode pretty much instantly. Maybe a second or two

[Pyr0]

hehe, takes longer than that for my psu/hard drives etc. to spin up

[roller11]

i resume out of sleep mode pretty much instantly. Maybe a second or two

I resume 18 seconds, Pyr0 says 15, you report 2...Do you have a special striped down ver of vista? I'm asking cause I tested a DFI x58 board and it resumed in 13 seconds, yet, another poster reported 6 seconds for the same board. All my core two duo boards were in the 4-9 second range. This is an extremely important issue to me so I really want to know why I'm so slow resuming. Any info you can provide will be helpful cause if my board really is lacking in this regard, I have until Jan. 26 to send it back to Amazon for a replacement. I've tested under both Vista home premium 32 and 64, and I've tried every BIOS through F5E. You?

[gFiz]

I resume 18 seconds, Pyr0 says 15, you report 2...Do you have a special striped down ver of vista? I'm asking cause I tested a DFI x58 board and it resumed in 13 seconds, yet, another poster reported 6 seconds for the same board. All my core two duo boards were in the 4-9 second range. This is an extremely important issue to me so I really want to know why I'm so slow resuming. Any info you can provide will be helpful cause if my board really is lacking in this regard, I have until Jan. 26 to send it back to Amazon for a replacement. I've tested under both Vista home premium 32 and 64, and I've tried every BIOS through F5E. You?

Just regular 64 premium, with the rig specs below. I am using F3 however, as after using pretty much every bios up through F5d (on my previous board which I returned dur to a memory issue). I'll admit, it kind of amazed me how quickly i resumed form sleep as well, but i chalked it up to the hard drive (my entire rig is pretty much new except the PS & Case). I'll take a video if you don't believe me

[Pyr0]

so from a completely dead silent system (as in everything's off, sleeping), your psu, fans and hard drives all spin up and you are at the desktop in 2 seconds?

do you have hybrid sleep disabled?

maybe it's the velociraptor

as i mentioned, it takes longer than 2 seconds for my PSU to roar into action and 6 hdd's to spin up

[gFiz]

yep, computer is dead silen, fans off, lights on keyboard and mouse off, nothing spinning. Hit a key on my keyboard, everythign lights up and and login screen pops up probably in 2 seconds. Never had a computer resume that quickly either. However, I'm almost entire chalking it up to the HD, because Steam and my other tasktray items load up pretty much instantly on a regular cold boot as well, which is something I've never experienced either, and I have to believe it's the Velociraptor.

[roller11]

Just regular 64 premium, with the rig specs below. I am using F3 however, as after using pretty much every bios up through F5d (on my previous board which I returned dur to a memory issue). I'll admit, it kind of amazed me how quickly i resumed form sleep as well, but i chalked it up to the hard drive (my entire rig is pretty much new except the PS & Case). I'll take a video if you don't believe me

I absolutely believe you. Having said that, I'd really like to see a video of your computer resuming from SM so quickly, so bring on that video.

[roller11]

I have to believe it's the Velociraptor.

I have an SSD, and it takes off only 3 seconds...15 seconds vs 18 with my Samsung 750 GB HDD. Also, my computer is very slow to go into SM, about 30 seconds. Yours?

[RealTelstar]

Stupid question: is the 1x pci-e slot usable in the UD5? Looks like any board would hit the nb cooler...

[gFiz]

I have an SSD, and it takes off only 3 seconds...15 seconds vs 18 with my Samsung 750 GB HDD. Also, my computer is very slow to go into SM, about 30 seconds. Yours?

about 10-15 to go into sleep mode. Well, if it's not the HD, then maybe the bios? Which are you using? Could it be the amount of taskbar items you have running (i keep my processes very minimal, and do not use an AV). Just throwing ideas out there.

[Vega]

Hi,

I will grab a UD5 tomorrow together with 3Gb Corsair and a 920.
Shall I flash it to a Extreme or does it matters at all? I have seen that most people use bios F4J.
Do you think there will be an "drop mod" settings (for Vcore) in bios in future or do I have to fix it manually with a Vpot?
Finally.....I quess the white dim slots are the right one to use, right?

[Kimi.Rk]

New bios ud5 http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/giga...st-bios-28441/

[Xello]

i can resume from sleep with or without HT (i have HT disabled atm and have just tested)
the led reads E1 while resuming, and then FF when it gets to the desktop

since disabling HT, the only prob i have is that it will occasionally go straight back to sleep again if i use the mouse to wake it and then don't move it while resuming

if i wake the pc by pressing the spacebar, it seems to resume normally

Well that's on the UD5 with a UD5 bios, i should have mentioned i was talking about the Extreme. I'm not sure about flashing it with UD5 bios, i wouldn't risk it, the boards have a slightly different layout and it took me long enough to get my current setting squared up.

E1 is right, when i turn HT on that's what it stays at even after fully resumed. When HT is off, E1 displays but i never get full resume, just blank screen.

[Pyr0]

Theta mentioned having probs with S3 on a UD5 too

hehe, i've wondered if cross-flashing would be possible, but i'm guessing not since the extreme has more graduated voltage options etc.
anyone have any ideas/info ?

[Xello]

Some people have reported flashing the UD5 with Extreme bios, and i think they were successful. Beyond that, not sure. I remember seeing in a change log for one of the Extreme bios, might be F4, something about "fixed s3 resume issue with Turbo on", seems they forgot about HT though.

[Pyr0]

would be interesting to hear from anyone who's tried it

anybody got any links to any threads/posts ?

[typer77]

After messing around with the x58 - extreme for quite some time, I finally tried to install a sound card and a few other things..
i found there is just not enough space for any additional cards...
How do you install a sound card on to the extreme board while the passive cooling is in the way?

thanks in advance,
jack

[Xello]

You don't! Take the passive cooler off, no need for it

[ReverendMaynard]

You don't! Take the passive cooler off, no need for it

have you checked your temps while running some intense graphics? Cooling is needed either way man, an inactive w/b is garbage.

[Xello]

have you checked your temps while running some intense graphics? Cooling is needed either way man, an inactive w/b is garbage.

Yeah, tops out @ 67c as i said, on Crysis. Other less demanding games it's generally 60-64c. No problem! I can say in my experience the NB needs no active cooling, beyond the normal airflow in my case. I guess i'm not at the most extreme end of the heat spectrum though, for that you need dual 4870x2's, though i'm sure it still wouldn't pass 70c and the red LED doesn't light up until 81c is passed. These things were designed to be very stable at high loads, according to francois, and so far i can confirm that.

Quad SLI / Crossfire is such a small % of users though. I wouldn't hesitate in taking off this fin attachment if i didn't need it, i haven't done any testing but several have reported it only making 1-2c of a difference. The thought occurs that perhaps at higher loads it makes more of a difference, but i'd (purely guessing) say still no more than 3-5c.

I think NB temps are another area just like CPU temps (which we've covered in either this thread or the core i7 one) where perhaps more caution is generally observed than is necessary, especially on X48 - i remember being given strict advice when i got my Blackops not to exceed 45c under load or instability would come quickly. Well when i ditched my 9600GT and popped in 2 4870x2's my heart almost sank when i seen my temps during Crysis quickly rise to 55-57c, i remember at first considering even selling one of the cards just because of that temp reading. However i gamed with those cards for a good many hours and didn't experience a single problem that resulted from this

[ReverendMaynard]

Yeah, tops out @ 67c as i said, on Crysis. Other less demanding games it's generally 60-64c. No problem! I can say in my experience the NB needs no active cooling, beyond the normal airflow in my case. I guess i'm not at the most extreme end of the heat spectrum though, for that you need dual 4870x2's, though i'm sure it still wouldn't pass 70c and the red LED doesn't light up until 81c is passed. These things were designed to be very stable at high loads, according to francois, and so far i can confirm that.

Quad SLI / Crossfire is such a small % of users though. I wouldn't hesitate in taking off this fin attachment if i didn't need it, i haven't done any testing but several have reported it only making 1-2c of a difference. The thought occurs that perhaps at higher loads it makes more of a difference, but i'd (purely guessing) say still no more than 3-5c.

I think NB temps are another area just like CPU temps (which we've covered in either this thread or the core i7 one) where perhaps more caution is generally observed than is necessary, especially on X48 - i remember being given strict advice when i got my Blackops not to exceed 45c under load or instability would come quickly. Well when i ditched my 9600GT and popped in 2 4870x2's my heart almost sank when i seen my temps during Crysis quickly rise to 55-57c, i remember at first considering even selling one of the cards just because of that temp reading. However i gamed with those cards for a good many hours and didn't experience a single problem that resulted from this

What clocks and volts was your 940 running at during these gaming sessions?

[Xello]

4.2ghz, 1.42v in bios, 1.39v windows 1.37v load or around there.

[JWMc]

New high OC result for my i7-920, on air:

4.2ghz (21x200), HT on, 89c max temp @ 18c ambient, LinX x 20.

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