Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

[Lukee]

Is anyone running a i7 940? What are you running it at and what is your memory at?

I just picked one up on ebay yesterday and wanted to gain a little insight before I received it.

[rge]

So another bios for the Extreme that still has the restart issues RGE? I'm just about ready to tie up this OC and resume gaming again when my other card comes, i feel i'll be on f4m for the rest of the board's days.

Yep, at this point I would not be surprised if bug persists to F5 final and on. One mod on Tweaktown thinks they are aware of and working on the bug, but who knows, my guess it is low priority at best. I wrote support and they said they would pass the issue along, but also that as long as it works at stock, ocing is not guaranteed. So who knows

[ReverendMaynard]

Yep, at this point I would not be surprised if bug persists to F5 final and on. One mod on Tweaktown thinks they are aware of and working on the bug, but who knows, my guess it is low priority at best. I wrote support and they said they would pass the issue along, but also that as long as it works at stock, ocing is not guaranteed. So who knows

They should remove all of the labels on the box that gleam about overclocking then. 2 of my mates have the Extreme, and all three of us do not experience any of the bugs that allot of people seem to be experiencing. You'd think if the bugs were wide spread, one of us would have suffered...but nadda.

I think for the chaps that are having a bad experience with the boards, chasing a magical bios update is just setting yourselves up for disappointment. If it was me, I'd rma it, sell it and give another board/manufacturer a go, but I commend your guys patience.

[burningrave101]

Another little bug that I've noticed having with the board is when I've been testing on the x19 multiplier. When I set a high blck and save the settings to exit the BIOS sometimes the second I save it will just go to a black screen and it won't reboot. I have to manually restart it. I'm guessing because the settings aren't real stable or something. Either way I haven't had much luck with this board at blck much past 200Mhz. I'm thinking it may be my 920 just having a weak memory controller or something but regardless it doesn't like running my memory much past 1600Mhz, especially the higher the blck goes. I have Corsair 1600C8 dominators and i'd think they would be good up to at least 1700Mhz, especially when I crank up the voltage and loosen the timings. I was testing with a low blck and was able to get them up around 1680Mhz I believe and ran Linx and Prime95 Blend without an issue.

I may end up swapping boards and CPU's here before long though. I've got my eyes on the Bloodrage or the eVGA x58.

[gFiz]

since the majority of posts you see on forums like this are about issue with hardware, let me just say I have a UD5, that I keep clocked at 3.6ghz (i haven't even tried more, satisfied for now on a 1ghz overclock that is 100% stable, 20x180). I had all these other bios's downloaded and ready to go, but decided to stick with F3 at first (what it shipped with), and have had no issues. No bluescreens, lockups, restarts, coldboot issues, or S3 hibernate issues. Very happy with this motherboard.

(though I will say to be fair, this is my second one. First worked fine as well, but for some reason the bios wasn't seeing 6gb of mem, though windows was...weird. Even though it didn't seem to cause any issues, i didn't want a $300 defective mobo, even if it was just cosmetic. This second one though I have absolutely no issues.)

[revenant]

since the majority of posts you see on forums like this are about issue with hardware, let me just say I have a UD5, that I keep clocked at 3.6ghz (i haven't even tried more, satisfied for now on a 1ghz overclock that is 100% stable, 20x180). I had all these other bios's downloaded and ready to go, but decided to stick with F3 at first (what it shipped with), and have had no issues. No bluescreens, lockups, restarts, coldboot issues, or S3 hibernate issues. Very happy with this motherboard.

(though I will say to be fair, this is my second one. First worked fine as well, but for some reason the bios wasn't seeing 6gb of mem, though windows was...weird. Even though it didn't seem to cause any issues, i didn't want a $300 defective mobo, even if it was just cosmetic. This second one though I have absolutely no issues.)

thanks for this.. I was starting to get depressed reading about nothing but issues with this or that.. ugh! but that's how these threads tend to go, you hear more about the frustrations than the successes.

At any rate, for your memory issue with the other board, I hear that can be caused by a bent pin in the cpu socket area.. or at least, some other people have said they found a pin which was slighty askew and after straightening it out, viola! all 3 or 6gb would show up..

I am going to get my board turned on for the first time tonight.. If the shipped with bios is F3 or higher I will stick with that unless I can't get something stable... I am looking for 3.6ghz or maybe 3.8 for a 24/7 config which I need to be super stable for MMO gaming.. crashes = deaths which is so annoying. anyways.. wish me luck.

[gFiz]

At any rate, for your memory issue with the other board, I hear that can be caused by a bent pin in the cpu socket area.. or at least, some other people have said they found a pin which was slighty askew and after straightening it out, viola! all 3 or 6gb would show up..

yea, i read that on TT forums as well, but I looked at the socket with a magnifying glass and couldn't see any pins out of order, and I'm so freakishly cautious when placing the CPU in, that I don't thik that was it. Maybe a pin shorted, I don't know. But in the end it doesn't matter, a simple overnight replacement and I'm cruising along now and haven't been this happy with performance and stability since my old NF4 setup years ago

[revenant]

well, so far so good... my board works! feeeewww... but the bad news is I think I got as crappy mount with the cpu cooler.. at 2800 with cpu vcore on auto my load is in the high 50s... might just be fresh AS5 also, but I seem to remember it being a bit cooler before when I first ran prime... like loading right at 50 or so.. anyways.. I think this board puts a little more vcore in by default than my old one did, so that might be the cause for the extra heat... I decided to take her up to bios f5e for s and grins... f3 seemed sluggish while in the bios menu and I dunno, it just felt like an early rev bios... Vista64 did remarkably well booting in the new env for the first time.. I only needed to reboot once, and didn't even need to use the gigabyte CD for any drivers at all. lol. it doesn't get much easier than that.

so I want to disable all of those extra cpu features like prochot and virtualization, etc right? the eclipse didn't have any of that stuff...

edit: so do any of you have dynamic energy saver enabled? does that makes the load LEDs light up while the mobo is active??

[SteveRo]

well, so far so good... my board works! feeeewww... but the bad news is I think I got as crappy mount with the cpu cooler.. at 2800 with cpu vcore on auto my load is in the high 50s... might just be fresh AS5 also, but I seem to remember it being a bit cooler before when I first ran prime... like loading right at 50 or so.. anyways.. I think this board puts a little more vcore in by default than my old one did, so that might be the cause for the extra heat... I decided to take her up to bios f5e for s and grins... f3 seemed sluggish while in the bios menu and I dunno, it just felt like an early rev bios... Vista64 did remarkably well booting in the new env for the first time.. I only needed to reboot once, and didn't even need to use the gigabyte CD for any drivers at all. lol. it doesn't get much easier than that.

so I want to disable all of those extra cpu features like prochot and virtualization, etc right? the eclipse didn't have any of that stuff...

edit: so do any of you have dynamic energy saver enabled? does that makes the load LEDs light up while the mobo is active??

Which ggbt board do you have? Many folks myself included have found the f4x bios's to be better for oc. My bios settings for high oc below - if you are on air start with a lower vcore - something at or below 1.4 might be a good start. Good luck!

load line enabled
vcore 1.55
qpi 1.335
cpu pll 1.88
dram v 1.64
HT off (or HT on with much higher temps)
turbo off
C1E, C3/C6,C7 off
EIST off
bidirectional prochot off
virtualization off
qpi, uncore, mem multi's: 36, 13, x6
1394, lan2 off
HPET on, 32 bit
965 on GGBT X58 extreme under water
This is with Bios F4m

Max voltages from intel -

[kpablo]

My stuffs just arrived... so before i start touching the BIOS setups... which one is still the best BIOS version? F4j?

[FragMagnet]

I'm not sure if it is a CPU or Mobo limitation, or am I missing something in the bios, but I'm trying to find why my BCLK seems to be to the lower end of the scale compared to others.

Vcor is 1.39 under load in all examples, these are prime stable for 1 hr, additional vcore does not raise the o-clock in any of the examples.

With Turbo off, the cpu scales to 196 BCLK, or 3920
With Turbo on for the 21x multi to 196 BCLK or 4116
With HT on, Turbo on, 181 BCLK for 3801
With HT on, Turbo off, 190 BCLK doesn't work ?

Now in the last example, it fails within a minute of prime95, with the screen freezing for a few seconds, then a reboot, the same as raising the BCLK in the first 3 examples.

Vdim = 1.64v
QPI = 1.34v (raising it doesn't help)
LL= on

The remaining voltages are auto

QPI multi = x36
Uncore = x16
Mem = x8
X.M.P. = on

I'm using the 4l beta bios, and load temps are in the high 70's with no throttling.

Any suggestions to what might be holding me back ?

[Nilos]

I'm not sure if it is a CPU or Mobo limitation, or am I missing something in the bios, but I'm trying to find why my BCLK seems to be to the lower end of the scale compared to others.

Vcor is 1.39 under load in all examples, these are prime stable for 1 hr, additional vcore does not raise the o-clock in any of the examples.

With Turbo off, the cpu scales to 196 BCLK, or 3920
With Turbo on for the 21x multi to 196 BCLK or 4116
With HT on, Turbo on, 181 BCLK for 3801
With HT on, Turbo off, 190 BCLK doesn't work ?

Now in the last example, it fails within a minute of prime95, with the screen freezing for a few seconds, then a reboot, the same as raising the BCLK in the first 3 examples.

Vdim = 1.64v
QPI = 1.34v (raising it doesn't help)
LL= on

The remaining voltages are auto

QPI multi = x36
Uncore = x16
Mem = x8
X.M.P. = on

I'm using the 4l beta bios, and load temps are in the high 70's with no throttling.

Any suggestions to what might be holding me back ?

Well i have the same problem here but here its not the cpu. Max bclk is 205. If i set IOH Core to 1.5 and ICH IO to 1.8 i can go to 210 stable and 215 bootable.

[SteveRo]

My stuffs just arrived... so before i start touching the BIOS setups... which one is still the best BIOS version? F4j?

I have found f4j and f4m equally good.

[SteveRo]

I'm not sure if it is a CPU or Mobo limitation, or am I missing something in the bios, but I'm trying to find why my BCLK seems to be to the lower end of the scale compared to others.

Vcor is 1.39 under load in all examples, these are prime stable for 1 hr, additional vcore does not raise the o-clock in any of the examples.

With Turbo off, the cpu scales to 196 BCLK, or 3920
With Turbo on for the 21x multi to 196 BCLK or 4116
With HT on, Turbo on, 181 BCLK for 3801
With HT on, Turbo off, 190 BCLK doesn't work ?

Now in the last example, it fails within a minute of prime95, with the screen freezing for a few seconds, then a reboot, the same as raising the BCLK in the first 3 examples.

Vdim = 1.64v
QPI = 1.34v (raising it doesn't help)
LL= on

The remaining voltages are auto

QPI multi = x36
Uncore = x16
Mem = x8
X.M.P. = on

I'm using the 4l beta bios, and load temps are in the high 70's with no throttling.

Any suggestions to what might be holding me back ?

You might be having some conflict with uncore and mem multi's.
I try to stay away from uncore/mem=2. I think I have read that uncore/mem needs to be ration of x2 + 1 clock count.
The other thing might be the bios, you are on f4L?
What is xmp? - edit - found it - presets stored on the memory
CPU multi of x21 has been the sweet spot for me.
See above for the bios mods that I would reco.

[mikesrex]

I'm not sure if I even want to change from the F1 BIOS on the UD3R yet. I've had no problems with a 4GHz 24/7 clock. I did manage to get a 9.015 sec 1M superpi time with running 215x21, though

screenshot if anyone is curious http://www.hi-upload.com/upload/uplo...at9015mark.JPG

[ReverendMaynard]

I'm not sure if I even want to change from the F1 BIOS on the UD3R yet. I've had no problems with a 4GHz 24/7 clock. I did manage to get a 9.015 sec 1M superpi time with running 215x21, though

screenshot if anyone is curious http://www.hi-upload.com/upload/uplo...at9015mark.JPG

that's phase territory vcore right there...I'd hate to see your other settings.

Nice clocks though.

[SteveRo]

I'm not sure if I even want to change from the F1 BIOS on the UD3R yet. I've had no problems with a 4GHz 24/7 clock. I did manage to get a 9.015 sec 1M superpi time with running 215x21, though

screenshot if anyone is curious http://www.hi-upload.com/upload/uplo...at9015mark.JPG

Excellent work - what are using for cooling?

[mikesrex]

Excellent work - what are using for cooling?

Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme

ambient temp is around 70 deg F right now

[mikesrex]

that's phase territory vcore right there...I'd hate to see your other settings.

Nice clocks though.

most everything is on auto. I'm thinking that if I learn how to tune all the other voltages I would be able to run faster with less vcore. I need to read through this thread (again) and get a refresher on what ballpark the other voltage levels should be in. Then I can start testing from there.

[freshy]

man i feel so dum , took me 1 hour to oc this thiing when i first got it to 4ghz with ht on, and took me a month and 1/2 to get easytune 6 to work, all i done was turned off avg pro and ran easytune 6 and its working on windows 7

amyone tried the vdroop pencil mod ? work ?

[revenant]

Thanks! yeah, I think I will stay a bit more conservative for now, lol. Oh, I have the ud5. I am burning in at 160x21 for now with 1.2 vcore... I ran my other OC at 180x20 with 1.23 vcore fine.... my chip was prime stable at 4ghz with 1.4 vcore but my temps were warm on air... this chip has me tempted to get back on the juice (ala h2o) badly... kind of eye balling water kits again.. I have a modded nautilus 500 with improved rad and fan, but not sure that will cut it here... I think I need a bit more cooling surface... anyways.. so far so good.. the mobo has behaved very well so far. *knocking on wood*

Which ggbt board do you have? Many folks myself included have found the f4x bios's to be better for oc. My bios settings for high oc below - if you are on air start with a lower vcore - something at or below 1.4 might be a good start. Good luck!

load line enabled
vcore 1.55
qpi 1.335
cpu pll 1.88
dram v 1.64
HT off (or HT on with much higher temps)
turbo off
C1E, C3/C6,C7 off
EIST off
bidirectional prochot off
virtualization off
qpi, uncore, mem multi's: 36, 13, x6
1394, lan2 off
HPET on, 32 bit
965 on GGBT X58 extreme under water
This is with Bios F4m

Max voltages from intel -

[systemviper]

i AM installing my OS in an hour or 2, X58 extreme, 920 and some 280's,

Should i go with Vista sp1 64bit which i have been running it on my work station, or try beta windows 7 64bit

thanks in advance

[SteveRo]

Thanks! yeah, I think I will stay a bit more conservative for now, lol. Oh, I have the ud5. I am burning in at 160x21 for now with 1.2 vcore... I ran my other OC at 180x20 with 1.23 vcore fine.... my chip was prime stable at 4ghz with 1.4 vcore but my temps were warm on air... this chip has me tempted to get back on the juice (ala h2o) badly... kind of eye balling water kits again.. I have a modded nautilus 500 with improved rad and fan, but not sure that will cut it here... I think I need a bit more cooling surface... anyways.. so far so good.. the mobo has behaved very well so far. *knocking on wood*

Yes, this i7 was my first water build - see -

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=212948

and what I ended up building -

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&postcount=20

Seems like i7 at higher vcore does like more aggressive cooling - probably an understatement

[SteveRo]

i AM installing my OS in an hour or 2, X58 extreme, 920 and some 280's,

Should i go with Vista sp1 64bit which i have been running it on my work station, or try beta windows 7 64bit

thanks in advance

I installed vista x64 and xp x32 no problem.
Haven't played with 7 yet.
xp x32 seems more forgiving for oc - lots of crashes and restarts.
vista x64 install did get messed up by oc once - needed to restore from image.

[beast200]

hi
i have vista 32 on my main drive and w7 64 on a spare drive and boot to which one by pressing F12
i much prefer w7 but IE8 is unstable so use firefox
i tried to install F5e bios but after a boot it reverts back to F4 offical
flash back to F5a and allworking again (21 x 200)
also removed the blue cover off the the northbridge and temps on the northbridge fell buy 6 c 58c to 52c
would like to water cool N & c bridge with MIPS cover but then problems with cooling morfts