ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[trickson]

I am so getting this mobo !

[Grnfinger]

Last run for my 3870X2.....well maybe

[Grnfinger]

Last run this time

[andressergio]

Well finally i get my system stable after so many trials and errors for a month, i want to thank my mates Cryptik and Simps for all the help

I discovered that tough i could pass IBT i couldn't pass BLEND for more than 20mins, so i focused on that, and finally passed Blend 1h+ then i was able to pass IBT various runs...wich i never could...
I'm using same settings that i passed memtest for this 1200 PL7 Stronger

this is what i get many runs of IBT and BLEND

[andressergio]

Last run this time

Congrats mate

[Simps]

Grnfinger,

Very nice scores. I also see you got to bench 500FSB on your quad. That 4870X2 is a killer hum? Does it get hot?
Congrats!


andressergio,

You finnaly made it! I knew you were going to get it stable sooner or later.
Congrats...

Well, I would like to share to everybody 494FSB for 24/7 on a quad with DDR2-1186 5-5-5-18 PL8 STRONGER and the low board voltage it takes to do so.
This board is good stuff. Lets keep this thread alive!



[]'s
Simps

[Grnfinger]

That was without the 4870X2, I will do a few air runs in teh morning with it.
Wife needs a hand with some bios settings, this is going to be a long night I think.....
Post up some of her results in the morning as well, running her E8400 first

[IcemaN22]

Does anybody know which settings is correct for getting OCZ reaper PC8500 RAM stable? 4x 1gb. There is no chance to get these stable on this board while overclocking, and on the old commando I had no problem. Please, I don't wanna go back to commando

[Simps]

That was without the 4870X2, I will do a few air runs in teh morning with it.
Wife needs a hand with some bios settings, this is going to be a long night I think.....
Post up some of her results in the morning as well, running her E8400 first

OMG, that was with 3870X2! I thought it was done with your new 4870X2. I guess good results like that can make people confuse
Even more impressive on the 3870X2 =/

[CryptiK]

Thanks! But I really don't think my board is special. I was running into a lot of problems (the same most of people on the thread), till I got it going. So I really think it is about tunning it the right way.

As I type, I am priming some nice little settings... So far 90mim on prime blend and running... What do you think about the volts required for that FSB on that 65nm quad?

Looks good. Just wondering why you dont use 7.5x or 8x multi for 3.6GHz or even higher? You'd get better performance from an extra 100 - 200MHz cpu speed with lower FSB than at 7 x 500 FSB. I would have thought if your cpu can do 500 FSB it should be able to hit 3.6GHz like a lot of Q6600's.

@Grnfinger - very nice results, that cpu and card are screaming

[ViViD]

hi
Any1 Use This WaterBlock On M2F:
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.p..._water_block/1
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/E...cks/EK_Supreme

EK WaterBlock Supreme
Idon't Wanna Rip Heat Sink On Mosfet Maybe If I Get This WB I Must Get Out Heat Sinck
Please Help Me
(sorry 4 my english)

PLZ Help Can I Get This WB For My Mobo M2F Without Any Problem

[CryptiK]

Just a quick question - do you guys install the M2F chipset drivers? I haven't done so yet, I thought all it really added was the power saving features (EPU-6) which is of no benefit for me. If you have installed them, did you notice any gains vs not running them?

@Vivid - sorry I have no idea about water blocks I air cool.

[Grnfinger]

Just a quick question - do you guys install the M2F chipset drivers? I haven't done so yet, I thought all it really added was the power saving features (EPU-6) which is of no benefit for me. If you have installed them, did you notice any gains vs not running them?

@Vivid - sorry I have no idea about water blocks I air cool.

You get a slight increase in Vantage and 3DMark running the chipset drivers.
B4 you install them remove Asus Six Engine if your running it,
I would recommend using them, I have had no ill effects and have run them since day 1 on both boards, I would get the latest P45 drivers from Intel not Asus

[CryptiK]

Cheers. I don't run EPU-6. Just installed the drivers off the CD, will look for updated ones from intel later on.

[tom_86]

@Vivid
Yes you can use the ek block on this board i have one on mine with the lga775 Mounting Bracket

[ndGreg]

I have gotten to the point where I am testing for DDr CHA/CHB NB DDR2 Ref.
With my current settings, Prime got to 18 mins before I shut it down myself.
Note: This was after achieveing best NB GTL.;
NB GLT:
+10- 30 sec
+20- No post
-10- 17 mins
-20- No post
-15- 18mins + shut down when it beat -10.

I've run a couple of tests for the CHa/CHb NBDDR2 and haven't gotten prime to stop. Tho I have stopped it myself after 20-25 mins. I know I should let it run til it stops on its own, to get a base.
My question here is: should I be taking temps into consideration here, or just keep letting it run til Prime fails?

Hotest temps Ive seen so far (with Prime running)
CPU: 49
Core 1: 50
Core 2: 49
NB: 52
SB: 48

Thats gonna be alot of testing +12.5 +12.5 +50 thru -12.5 -12.5 -50,
or am I missing out on something here?

Heres my sttings so far: (not looking to get but 3.6GHz) as this is my very
1st overclock. Once I get 3.6 running stable, I will try more.


Ai Overclock Tuner Manual
OC From CPU Level Up Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting 8.5
FSB Frequency 422
CPU Clock Skew Auto
NB Clock Skew Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge 333
DRAM Frequency DDR2-1014MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1 Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2 Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1 Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2 Auto
DRAM Timing Control Auto

CAS# Latency 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge 5
DRAM RAS# Active to Precha 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time 55
Write Recovery Time 6
Read to Precharge Time 3

READ to WRITE Delay(S/D) 8
Write to Read Delay(S) 3
WRITE to READ Delay(D) 5
READ to READ Delay(S) 4
READ to READ Delay(D) 6
WRITE to WRITE Delay(S) 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay(D) 6

WRITE to PRE Delay 14
READ to PRE Delay 5
PRE to PRE Delay 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay 5

DRAM Static Read Control Auto
DRAM Read Training Auto
MEM. OC Charger Auto
Ai Clock Twister Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster Manual

Pull-in of CHA 1 Disabled
Pull-in of CHA 2 Disabled
Pull-in of CHA 3 Disabled
Pull-in of CHA 4 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 1 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 2 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 3 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 4 Disabled

Common Performance 8

PCIE Frequency 101

CPU Voltage 1.275
CPU PLL Voltage 1.553
FSB Termination Voltage 1.312
DRAM Voltage 2.10475
North Bridge Voltage 1.45775
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage 1.5
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage 1.1

CPU GTL Reference(0) Auto
CPU GTL Reference(1) -40mv
CPU GTL Reference(2) Auto
CPU GTL Reference(3) -40mv

NB GTL Reference -15
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference Auto

Load-Line Calibration Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum Auto

Your guide is working out great for me so far,
Thanks

[Shiranui Gen-An]

I don't know what's the deal with this piece of junk, everytime I get it to boot up and I try to do any kind of overclocking, it goes into it's non-posting DET_DRAM mode.

[CryptiK]

Sounds like either a bios issue, or a faulty MCH. Can you get it to boot dual channel yet? If you do get it to boot up (single or dual channel) can you get into windows and run any stability tests on it? Also in bios voltage monitor, are there any out of spec voltages or are they all normal?

[Shiranui Gen-An]

It still won't post with two sticks in dual channel. I don't have a hard disk attached to the board at the moment as I was just trying to do some high DDR2 clock memtest stressing. The voltages and temperatures look fine in the BIOS. The weird thing is when it does its DET_DRAM thing, the voltiminder LEDs simply do not light up. I'm getting a lot of hangs in the BIOS too.

[Simps]

I have gotten to the point where I am testing for DDr CHA/CHB NB DDR2 Ref.
With my current settings, Prime got to 18 mins before I shut it down myself.
Note: This was after achieveing best NB GTL.;
NB GLT:
+10- 30 sec
+20- No post
-10- 17 mins
-20- No post
-15- 18mins + shut down when it beat -10.

I've run a couple of tests for the CHa/CHb NBDDR2 and haven't gotten prime to stop. Tho I have stopped it myself after 20-25 mins. I know I should let it run til it stops on its own, to get a base.
My question here is: should I be taking temps into consideration here, or just keep letting it run til Prime fails?

Hotest temps Ive seen so far (with Prime running)
CPU: 49
Core 1: 50
Core 2: 49
NB: 52
SB: 48

Thats gonna be alot of testing +12.5 +12.5 +50 thru -12.5 -12.5 -50,
or am I missing out on something here?

Heres my sttings so far: (not looking to get but 3.6GHz) as this is my very
1st overclock. Once I get 3.6 running stable, I will try more.

Nice to hear the guide is helping you out. No, you don't need to take temperatures in consideration at this point.

"NB GLT:
+10- 30 sec
+20- No post
-10- 17 mins
-20- No post
-15- 18mins + shut down when it beat -10."

That is exactly the right kinda test to do, to find your best settings. See how different they are from each other, and how bad some of them are? You are on the right path. But you should test more NB GTL's. Like from -80 to +80. Maybe there are some even better value for you.

And yes, to find the best CHa/CHb NBDDR2, you should be testing all that range. This test is much less sensitive, so it might give you some trouble and take some time to find the right ones. You might raise your fsb and mem clock a bit, so tests fail after only 3 - 5 minutes, so you won't need to wait a lot between tests...

I see you are at the begining of the guide. When you get to the skews part, your system will become a lot more stable, and you will push it much higher.

Nice going there!

[]'s
Simps

[Grnfinger]

It still won't post with two sticks in dual channel. I don't have a hard disk attached to the board at the moment as I was just trying to do some high DDR2 clock memtest stressing. The voltages and temperatures look fine in the BIOS. The weird thing is when it does its DET_DRAM thing, the voltiminder LEDs simply do not light up. I'm getting a lot of hangs in the BIOS too.

Look real close around the dimm slot area for swollen/fat capacitors if you see any its RMA.

[CryptiK]

It still won't post with two sticks in dual channel. I don't have a hard disk attached to the board at the moment as I was just trying to do some high DDR2 clock memtest stressing. The voltages and temperatures look fine in the BIOS. The weird thing is when it does its DET_DRAM thing, the voltiminder LEDs simply do not light up. I'm getting a lot of hangs in the BIOS too.

It's not sounding good. Have you tried running the ram in both blue and white slots? Have you tried each slot one by one with only one stick at a time?

Can you enter bios set vNB to 1.45v, set mem OC charger to enabled (if its isnt already) and exit and see if that has any effect?

[Shiranui Gen-An]

I'm fairly certain something is wrong with the DIMM slots now, I'm getting freezes/failures in memtest at stuff like DDR2-800 CAS5 with 2.10V.

[radaja]

well i just went to fire up my rma board using 4 sticks of cellshock pc-8000 cl4 and guess what happend? nothing ,absolutley nothing.board lights up but never boots. so i try two sticks in the blue slots,boots up just fine.so i try the same two sticks in the white slots,nothing.so i try one stick in the fist blue slot ,boots fine,same stick in the second blue slot,boots up fine. then the first white slot,boots fine,second white slot,NO BOOT! this is utterly insane. this the third bad board.i am so disgusted with asus right now.

[CryptiK]

@ Shiranui-GenAn - That's not good at all. Clean your rams gold contacts with alcohol and a q-tip and re-test. Also Grnfinger has a point, although these solid caps shouldnt swell they can still die, causing the board to feed the ram dirty power. Do you have any crappy ram thats less sensitive to ripple than D9 to test with? You dont want to kill any sticks testing it.

@radaja - that's not good, sorry to hear that. Did that slot used to work ok? Guess if you have tried all your ram in that slot and no go then its time for another RMA?

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Just did more testing, looking pretty stable so far, just have to run small FFT's.

Linpack 10 trials @ 4.23GHz


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