Quote Originally Posted by qurious63ss View Post
DFM, process tweaks, etc. is all good but my point is that their is no way that a 4ghz Phenom II will only dissipate 90W at load. If you are implying that this first batch of PII are "tweaked for low power" then they must also be "tweaked for higher speed parts" as well since they are running at 4ghz with 90W?? The poof is in the pudding, if this chip could run at that speed with that wattage then we would already of seen it released as an FX chip regardless of what their tuning their process to do. $$$$$$
I really don't know what they are tweaking for. I was pointing out that historically, AMD brings out parts at the 'design center', and as they tweak the process, they bring out both lower power and higher speed parts. In the server world, they already announced that there will be a high speed 'SE' and a low power 'LE' added to the Shanghai line in 2009. So my assumption is the same will happen with Phenom II.

As far as the wattage, the methods many reviewers use to measure power are measuring total board power or even total system power. Those might be interesting if you are concerned about total energy draw, but are pretty much useless for determining processor wattage, since they include chipset, RAM, and anything else on the board.

The method I use measures actual heat out from the processor. Once I get a 940 and test it. I'll be able to say for sure what the results are. Based on the few tests that gave enough information to do the calculation, the estimate of under 100W at 4G seems reasonable.