Does everyone here have like 100 grand lying around to do whatever? I don't understand how overclocking and tweaking alone can make a piece of hardware cool or interesting even if it consumes more power, performs inadequately, and has little monetary value to it when it comes to actually using it, versus a more competitive part. Yeah, most of you are "enthusiasts" who will buy anything that's new, but what about some of the more rational people among us who have a finite amount of money and are shopping for their future system to last them two or three years? I think their discussions are a million times more valuable. It's frustrating to me to see a lame duck made to look like gold every single time when the facts say otherwise.