So we talked about pro

[Waterlogged]

I know, I know....very bad. Blame NaeKuh, he put the idea in my head with his post.

[NaeKuh]

I know, I know....very bad. Blame NaeKuh, he put the idea in my head with his post.

waaaah?

sure get more people to hate me..

[skinnee]

Did you have to look up the lyrics or could you pull them from memory?

[Waterlogged]

Did you have to look up the lyrics or could you pull them from memory?

Total copy/paste from the webz. I only know the song because of my sister has that album and unmercifully tortured me with it. I was in my Hard Rock/Glam Metal phase then...AC/DC, Mötley Crüe, Foreigner, Aerosmith, etc..., the funny thing is, about a year or so after that song was released, her boyfriend turned her on to Metallica.

[Red Maw]

My first build:


Photos taken 2005 - 09..

I've got to ask, how well did that radiator work?

Now to stay on topic, I am newb and always will be by the most popular definition. Though my personal definition of newb is more in line with Naekuh's as I feel you cease to be a newb when you gain a good, solid, overall understanding of the topic in question.

[skinnee]

Mötley Crüe

I'm guilty on this one!

[chris.y2k.r1]

PC n00b since 86
H2o n00b since '06

Certain symmetry there, doncha' think?

To me n00b= someone who doesn't know it all and is willing to acknowledge it in order to learn.

No one knows it all. Not about any thing. The second you think you do, you short change yourself, those who seek your advice. If you believe you know it then you've become ignorant and arrogant.

I've observed an interesting phenomenon, the more of an 'expert' I become in a given field the more I realize I don't know.

[NysoO]

I've got to ask, how well did that radiator work?
Now to stay on topic, I am newb and always will be by the most popular definition. Though my personal definition of newb is more in line with Naekuh's as I feel you cease to be a newb when you gain a good, solid, overall understanding of the topic in question.

Well, I think I had pretty nice temps. But then you have to remember that the parts I had didn't need too much cooling. (P4 northwood 2,8ghz @ 3,2. X800pro)

[ownage]

In my dictionary a Liquid Pro means:
-Has done at least 5 loops.
-Has had to deal with common problems like leakage.
-Understands the physical basics of how waterflow and waterpressure works.
-Knows how to design a good balanced loop with keeping loop bleeding in mind.
-Able to advise others what parts they should buy.

I think most of you guys would qualify as a Liquid Pro. Even when you don't know everything you probably will be able to overcome problems easily because of the experience you already have.

[MrToad]

I am n00b and so is my wife

[[XC] riptide]

Holy crap? Did you send you case only into a case mod contest and leave teh innards on your desk? When they said to submit your case they meant send it pictures of teh build


Sorry, lame modder humor folks

nice pink network cable by teh way

Want MOAR Noobz! Rofl. Heres two photos at two diff times. Check out the l33t mounting of that rad on the TT case.

DB... be ware of my Modz sk1llz

And yes.... Zalman Reserator with Fankit...................................... FTMFW!!!!!!!

[[XC] riptide]

Case modders beware. This case mod lowered Temps by nearely 10C.

[MrToad]

Giger-organic=riptide

[OggeOJ]

does this clear the sleep fog out

Yeah, I know waht its supposed to do, but does that improve anything? Just looks completely unnesescary, if you want a line like that why not just put an Y-barb there?

Or did that exist back in the days?

[DarthBeavis]

LOL.

I almost went the vapochill route when I first wanted to get into more "extreme" cooling and overclocking. I've never even considered using a chiller.

My vap kicks arse still. And yes, it has uber bling. Totally rebuilt, new evap head and enclosure and all charged with R507 tuned to cool a QX6700. It is just collecting dust at the moment. I plan to make an adapter to use it with an i7.

[DarthBeavis]

Want MOAR Noobz! Rofl. Heres two photos at two diff times. Check out the l33t mounting of that rad on the TT case.

DB... be ware of my Modz sk1llz

And yes.... Zalman Reserator with Fankit...................................... FTMFW!!!!!!!

Brother, as much as I respect you I cannot let you pwn me. My path to being a respected modder has been a long one. This is the second build I ever did. The modding consisted of adding tons of internal fans and adding the nice fan hold in the side:


This rig should have been on teh cover of cpu magazine, although I do not know if they had cpu magazine in the late 90s. Yes, I also succumbed to the picture with you computer and all your toys thing back then. Should have included the KY in the pic for laughs but i was not that advanced yet. That is a H-DSL modem on top. 768k/second.

[Alexontherocks]

I will not post pictures since all of them are on xs at the moment but I would like to compliment everyone who has watercooled in the middle of the 90s.

Unfortunately or not now water cooling is not that hard. Kits are out and even components are extremely compatible. Advances in the field have provided us with very efficient blocks, pumps etc. No disrespect whatsoever to liquidcools now that is...

However if you are among those who ventured into watercooling before it became such a "hit" then give yourself a pat on the back. Back then it was really breaking ground (among normal enthusiasts) and the solutions to so many problems have really helped the community to "evolve".

Same thing with climbing or bikes. Today any kid with a pair of climbing shoes could beat and outperform most of yesterday's climbers but it is easy to forget that back in the day the ropes where made of cotton. Gear was a bet and safety was a dream. Achievements must be fairly compared.
Same things can be said for the first bike riders at the beginning of the 20th century.

This is just to say that even though PRO is (as correctly stated) a term which indicates an effort to produce wealth rather than specific knowledge I can't help to think that if the term must be applied to anyone then those who have "opened" the way for watercooling deserve it.

My 2 eurocents.

[Oli4v]

In my dictionary a Liquid Pro means:
-Has done at least 5 loops.
-Has had to deal with common problems like leakage.
-Understands the physical basics of how waterflow and waterpressure works.
-Knows how to design a good balanced loop with keeping loop bleeding in mind.
-Able to advise others what parts they should buy.

I think most of you guys would qualify as a Liquid Pro. Even when you don't know everything you probably will be able to overcome problems easily because of the experience you already have.

you mean 5 loops in one build or, 5 different waterbuilds,

-I have redone mine like already +5 times ^^
-I nearly had a power supply drown by making the loop on a bad way empty and didn't screw a stop on my ek res very well while it was leaking, and I was wondereing where the f*ck the water kept coming ^^
-3rd point OK
-4th point, hmm, let's say 50% OK
-I advise sometimes

I should call myself a few months ago a big watercooln00b (with teh big zero's ^^), but I wanted to learn , so that was good

now I'm more an enthousiast, I learn from its nearly every day, by reading and watching@ XS (then I spread my info that I learned everywhere where it's needed ) and I'm happy to be cooling with water right now, muchos better than air

[Spankyfart]

i started watercooling back in 1999 or 2000, these were the oldest pics i could find. i remember getting my stuff either from Cathar, dangerden or JLP.

hope you enjoy.. LOL

I remember those blocks, this was around aug 1999.
The horror.

[DarthBeavis]

you mean 5 loops in one build or, 5 different waterbuilds,

-I have redone mine like already +5 times ^^
-I nearly had a power supply drown by making the loop on a bad way empty and didn't screw a stop on my ek res very well while it was leaking, and I was wondereing where the f*ck the water kept coming ^^
-3rd point OK
-4th point, hmm, let's say 50% OK
-I advise sometimes

I should call myself a few months ago a big watercooln00b (with teh big zero's ^^), but I wanted to learn , so that was good

now I'm more an enthousiast, I learn from its nearly every day, by reading and watching@ XS (then I spread my info that I learned everywhere where it's needed ) and I'm happy to be cooling with water right now, muchos better than air

YOu can learn as much from one rig that you rebuilt many times over. If you think about it, you really can learn MORE that way since you can replace a component in your loop and see the true delta.

[NaeKuh]

In my dictionary a Liquid Pro means:
-Has done at least 5 loops.
-Has had to deal with common problems like leakage.
-Understands the physical basics of how waterflow and waterpressure works.
-Knows how to design a good balanced loop with keeping loop bleeding in mind.
-Able to advise others what parts they should buy.

I think most of you guys would qualify as a Liquid Pro. Even when you don't know everything you probably will be able to overcome problems easily because of the experience you already have.

okey i know im gonna get pwned for this...

but 5 loops is not enough... maybe 5 different types of loops, but 5 loops is definitely not enough..

Leaking? I think if your a pro, we dont even think about leaks... However we get them, when we do tho, we dont run around like a headless chicken and flare up the thread asking for help on how to wipe water off the board.. :P

Flow and physics? i couldnt agree with you more here... it gets really funny when people try to prove physics wrong...

knows how to build a well balanced loop!! <--- THIS IS THE KEY!!

im an advant when it comes to planning. I tell everyone PLAN b4 you buy, make sure you know what your buying and why...

The most common mistake on this forum is mismatched parts.. Injector blocks on multi block systems, or people throwing in random second pumps and 3-4 radiators when they dont know the reason...

The funnest and newiest fad on XS... getting rads larger then your case can possibly fit...

This cracks me up... (if our legends could see this forum now, they would probably die from laughing so hard)

my new definition of PRO... sets his own standards which work, and does not follow the bandwagon when it comes to builds...
this is what i call pro....

[DarthBeavis]

people throwing in random second pumps and 3-4 radiators

Them there are fighting words LOL

[NaeKuh]

Them there are fighting words LOL

AHAHAHAHA..

but you know im correct...

if you dont have the system to maintain the balance of the pair, your gains are absolutely horrible...

[Alexontherocks]

I put 2 car rads and 2 iwakis just for the sake of rad measurement...

[NaeKuh]

I put 2 car rads and 2 iwakis just for the sake of rad measurement...

ur rad is bigger them most people's cases, so you dont count...

Also you took the application aspect into mind, so it works with your project..

I still love Naja's radiator tho.. koyo's are so nice..