"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[Melhisedek]

So you use AHCI now and it still freezes? You also installed drivers from CD? Can try to uninstall drivers and see if it will help any This is driving me crazy I have exact same problem as you, with moving mouse and white Firefox screen (if it is FF that is running)

[x3mgamer]

So you use AHCI now and it still freezes? You also installed drivers from CD? Can try to uninstall drivers and see if it will help any This is driving me crazy I have exact same problem as you, with moving mouse and white Firefox screen (if it is FF that is running)

yeah its the same problem, it seems to be seagate drives themselves that r causing problems, some ppl managed to take care of the problem by upgrading to new firmware, SD35 or something, u cant just obtain new firmware via seagate site, u need to talk to the support to get one

[mozis]

About the "HDD freezes" guys, FYI i had very similar problem, solved it with replacing the stock SATA cables, that Asus provides with this board.

Try doing so if you havent done it already.

[enigma96]

I had the same problems with the latest Intel Matrix Drivers. I would get a BSOD while gaming or just while surfing the net. I got the iastor.sys error. I never had that problem with the previous matrix drivers. I didn't change any hardware, it all started with the newest driver. I reformatted my HD and went back to the previous driver for the intel matrix ahci and haven't had a BSOD since. I think its the newest drivers their forked....

[Melhisedek]

About the "HDD freezes" guys, FYI i had very similar problem, solved it with replacing the stock SATA cables, that Asus provides with this board.

Try doing so if you havent done it already.

Will do and report back Hope it could be so simple

[Melhisedek]

Nope wasn't the cables Gonna try and see if firmware update can help any Wish me luck

[RAdoxx]

I had the same problems with the latest Intel Matrix Drivers. I would get a BSOD while gaming or just while surfing the net. I got the iastor.sys error. I never had that problem with the previous matrix drivers. I didn't change any hardware, it all started with the newest driver. I reformatted my HD and went back to the previous driver for the intel matrix ahci and haven't had a BSOD since. I think its the newest drivers their forked....

That's what I suspected.

[lexus232]

I trying to get stable with my e8400 on 4200mhz (467x9.0) 1.352vcore, 1.26vNB, 1.20vFSB. Chip "almost" stable on this vcore, but i dont want to rise vcore higher . What you people can advise to change in bios for better stability?

[Big Lar]

I trying to get stable with my e8400 on 4200mhz (467x9.0) 1.352vcore, 1.26vNB, 1.20vFSB. Chip "almost" stable on this vcore, but i dont want to rise vcore higher . What you people can advise to change in bios for better stability?

Whats your PLL set to?
May want to adjust GTL's a bit if you have not yet.

Larry

[nigelke]

i have been messing around a litle bit more and this was the result
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=468583

Max temp 67° (stress test intelburn )

[lexus232]

Whats your PLL set to?
May want to adjust GTL's a bit if you have not yet.

Larry

PLL 1.52v Which GTL i should adjust? (0/2) or (1/3)? And what difference between them?

[Barbarosso]

İntel e8500 and thermalright true black coller
bios 1702

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5 and 9.0 500*8.5=4250Mhz stability -500*9.0=4500Mhz dont stability
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
FSB Frequency: 500 -533
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

1st Information : Auto

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information : 7-3-5-4-5-4-7

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: Auto

C/P: A1 A2 A3 A4 | B1 B2 B3 B4
LVL: 10 10 10 10 | 10 10 10 10


CPU Voltage: 1,40 -1.46
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0,370
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0,470
CPU PLL Voltage: 2,00 -2.20
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40-1.55 500FSB-auto stability ,533FSB 1.42-.1.54 dont stability
DRAM Voltage: auto
NB Voltage: 1.40 - 1.50 500FSB- Auto stability ,533 FSB =1.42v-1.50v dont stability
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: auto

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: PERFORMANCE

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: disabled

my chipset nice coller two 6 cm fan
my cpu coller thermalright true black 120 two 12cm fan cool
my case two right intake 12cm fan and there front 12cm fan

my cpu 1.41 4250Mhz Stability 65C
1.42 and 1.48 4500 Mhz dont stability what the problem bios settings.

what the 533FSB nb and FSB Termination Voltage ??
İntel E8500 Cpu 4500Mhz 1.40v-1.48v not stability my bios settings ,what bad ??
helping me please
soryy i speak english bad

[lexus232]

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CPU PLL Voltage: 2,00 -2.20
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40-1.55 \

[Barbarosso]

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testing volt
dont stability computer up voltage
windows open and orthos,cinebench testing auto stoping dont stable
???

[Big Lar]

PLL 1.52v Which GTL i should adjust? (0/2) or (1/3)? And what difference between them?

1.52 for the PLL is good, maybe try 1.54v on it tho after tweaking the gtl's if needed.
o/2 should coincide to Workers 1/2 in Prime95. Run Prime95 Blend, and if 0/2 ie workers 1/2 fail first, adjust that gtl. If workers 3 or 4 fail first, try adjusting 1/3 gtls. Tweak gtl's in small increments and retest.

Larry

[Big Lar]

İntel e8500 and thermalright true black coller
bios 1702

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5 and 9.0 500*8.5=4250Mhz stability -500*9.0=4500Mhz dont stability
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
FSB Frequency: 500 -533
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

1st Information : Auto

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information : 7-3-5-4-5-4-7

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO (Try Disabled)
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: Auto (This is on Manual Yes?)

C/P: A1 A2 A3 A4 | B1 B2 B3 B4
LVL: 10 10 10 10 | 10 10 10 10


CPU Voltage: 1,40 -1.46 (Kinda High)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0,370 (?)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0,470 (?)
CPU PLL Voltage: 2,00 -2.20 **(WAYYYY to High)**
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40-1.55 500FSB-auto stability ,533FSB 1.42-.1.54 dont stability (Too High try way lower)
DRAM Voltage: auto ( Set to spec )
NB Voltage: 1.40 - 1.50 500FSB- Auto stability ,533 FSB =1.42v-1.50v dont stability (Unless active cooling 1.4v)
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: auto

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: PERFORMANCE

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: disabled

my chipset nice coller two 6 cm fan
my cpu coller thermalright true black 120 two 12cm fan cool
my case two right intake 12cm fan and there front 12cm fan

my cpu 1.41 4250Mhz Stability 65C
1.42 and 1.48 4500 Mhz dont stability what the problem bios settings.

what the 533FSB nb and FSB Termination Voltage ??
İntel E8500 Cpu 4500Mhz 1.40v-1.48v not stability my bios settings ,what bad ??
helping me please
soryy i speak english bad

Some of your volts are Way too high.

Larry

[Leeghoofd]

İntel e8500 and thermalright true black coller
bios 1702

helping me please
soryy i speak english bad

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5 and 9.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
FSB Frequency: 500
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO


DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: LIGHT
AI Transaction Booster: Auto

CPU Voltage: 1,40 -1.46
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26 for 4Ghz.... 1.3 for 4.5
DRAM Voltage: ?????
NB Voltage: 1.26 is more than adequate for 500FSB ops with no ram tweaks
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: auto

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement : OPTIMISED

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: disabled

It's not because it's not stable that you just up the voltages. With P45 and 45nm CPU's you need to find the sweetspot... I have no idea why you set some settings so out of proportion, not stable just up one more ?

And not all E8400/8500 CPU's do 4.5 stable 24/7... if I was you I would use 4.2 daily and try to find the lowest Vcore possible if you have not already damaged your current CPU with them voltages...

Plz read up first on how to OC and not just apply ridicilous voltages

I'm sorry if this might have sounded a bit rough but you are wasting perfect hardware due to inexperience and maybe an impossible goal

[Barbarosso]

Heyy Leeghoofd very very thanks man 533FSB stable
thank you thank you thank you very very much


30m munites testing orthos dont stop ,you post settings stable olaalaaaaaa!!!!!!!

[Leeghoofd]

30 mins mean nothing... use these settings as a guideline, maybe you can use less volts, but change only one setting at a time... otherwise you will get lost (like I'm doing at the moment with the Giga mobo pffffff)

[Barbarosso]

30 mins mean nothing... use these settings as a guideline, maybe you can use less volts, but change only one setting at a time... otherwise you will get lost (like I'm doing at the moment with the Giga mobo pffffff)

i am bad speak english translate babylon dictonery
dont understand okey no problem
dont stop i am testing 3dmark ,cinebench ,prime95

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=468697
wow nicely man dont stop testing

Thanks again

[lexus232]

Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55

what does it mean?

[Leeghoofd]

I won't go into the technical Mumbo jumbo of that value ( as i hardly understand a word of that ) Mostly we noticed with the board that it wrongly detects the TRFC value, with 55 you are pretty sure it will work with any module... for 1GB modules you can tighten to eg 42. With 2gb dimms 55 and higher is sort of a must... but like I said before my templates proposed are guidelines and not specific required values. They have suited me well on this board and mostly you can run with a bit less, but that's for you to discover as each board/CPU/ram combo is different...

Hope it helps

[Barbarosso]

bios settings copy paste post sory

my ram OCZ 2*2048 DDR2 1066Mhz
ram timing settings auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disable
MEM. OC Charger: disable
AI Clock Twister: Light


Thanks helping me Leeghoofd

[lexus232]

I won't go into the technical Mumbo jumbo of that value ( as i hardly understand a word of that ) Mostly we noticed with the board that it wrongly detects the TRFC value, with 55 you are pretty sure it will work with any module... for 1GB modules you can tighten to eg 42. With 2gb dimms 55 and higher is sort of a must... but like I said before my templates proposed are guidelines and not specific required values. They have suited me well on this board and mostly you can run with a bit less, but that's for you to discover as each board/CPU/ram combo is different...

Hope it helps

thanks, but i still dont understand what it can give to me? Better performance, better stability or smth else? I set it on 55 and haven't noticed any difference.

[Leeghoofd]

extra stability with 2GB dimms (Asus bios recognised my dimms with 50TRFC ), in your case not required try 42 or such