AMD Shanghai/Deneb Review Thread

[coolice]

So your screenshot with XP GUI is Windows 7?

nop
windows 7 for pcmark and 3dmark vantage
the rest was under winxp

[justapost]

nop
windows 7 for pcmark and 3dmark vantage
the rest was under winxp

Ups, so i missunderstood you yesterday. Thanks for clarifying.

[roofsniper]

How hard is it for peeps to stay on topic????

*snip*

i have already said this myself a few times but its not gonna happen. even if you remove the few that are starting all this more will come and amd users will most likely post info about it as well. all you can do is just not respond to the info being posted.

Well, you did a very good job of staying on topic yourself Yes this is the Deneb review thread, problem is reviews are not here yet and we're on 30 pages

About PH1 vs PH2: PH1 is not going to be PHII's main competitor, the competitors are on the other side. We all know when the reviews start streaming in, it's going to be 45nm vs 45nm. This is always the way it is. This is what makes sense! PHII is going to be tested against the competition. It is going to be reviewed, it has to be tested against something? For example, ALL the Shanghai reviews on the first page, pit it against products from Intel. Even the previews of Deneb do the same except for a couple. So it is inevitable, we'll see it. If you prefer to discuss exclusively Deneb without pitting against other processors, create your own thread because you're in the wrong thread. It's obvious that the OP (Original Poster) had a different idea from all those links on the first page, you can look it up if you're in doubt.

Now, On Topic: It seems there isn't much that'll be accepted by either side until we start seeing the hard facts. Maybe this thread needs to be closed till reviews start streaking in, otherwise we're on topic by discussing Deneb (as per the OP's post) against the competition. Some choose to see it as Intel vs AMD, I choose to see it as the reality.

Sorry for going off topic, but with the way things have gone so far, someone needed to remind everybody what this thread is truly about. Thanks.
Maybe let's all wait till the reviews start coming in and then we can start talking about what chips are included in the review?

yes i know that it is pointless to compare phenom I against phenom II but its the only thing you can do without starting a fight. it doesn't mean much comparing the two but it will show us what can be done that couldn't be done before. and since there are no official benchmarks out yet and it hasn't even been released you can't compare it against the intel cpus it will be competing against. why? because it will start fights that can't be ended cause there is no definite proof. as much as i think phenom II will be successful i can't prove it yet and no one else can disprove it.

@ lo squartatore sigh you are acting pretty immature right now when people are just trying to point out obvious facts. i think it would be in the best interests of you and others to just stop posting in the amd forum unless you can actually say something meaningful. and you keep disproving all information people are posting. saying that its fake, or not possible when you yourself can't prove that in anyway. plus your sig is just halirious. do you know what a quote is? a quote is when you repeat something that someone else said. when was the last time people here talked in italian so you can quote them?

[imsochobo]

you can use overdrive in win7!

Its easy. Grab it from another install!
(not to be rude or anything, havnt you done enough transitions to beta os's to know you have to do this alot ?. )

My od in win7!

[Jazzman]

Is the ability of Phenom II to oc NB beyond 2600mhz the difference maker in games when compared to other processors? Is this why the Dragon platform solution has the "potential" to best any other combo?

Or did my wife slip something in my coffee this morning?

[QuietIce]

Is the ability of Phenom II to oc NB beyond 2600mhz the difference maker in games when compared to other processors? Is this why the Dragon platform solution has the "potential" to best any other combo?

Or did my wife slip something in my coffee this morning?

NB > 2600 is rare but certainly possible even with a Phenom I and the right tweaks. The HT Link has more influence over CPU video processing than the NB by itself but the NB does determine the total possible I/O of the CPU.

I didn't really get the rest of the question - I guess I'm dense today ...

[Caveman787]

I think so. But it's a combination of high northbride and hypertransport speeds that lead to an increase in performance.

And I believe the northbridge and hypertransport is why phenom users claim smoother gameplay.

[Jazzman]

NB > 2600 is rare but certainly possible even with a Phenom I and the right tweaks. The HT Link has more influence over CPU video processing than the NB by itself but the NB does determine the total possible I/O of the CPU.

I didn't really get the rest of the question - I guess I'm dense today ...

It has been postulated in XS that the integration of cpu, memory, chipset, video card, and drivers results in a synergy producing superior performance. This is the AMD fusion marketing position. After the AMD event in Boston, some peeps reported Phenom II beat an i7 965 in a Crysis demo.