NVIDIA GTX295 Preview/Review

[dan7777]

is it worth the jump from a gtx260-216 overclocked to 1 of these not so sure

[trinibwoy]

Where is the ****ing GTX285 reviews? Stats even? This is getting ridiculous.

Supposedly 648 core, 1476 shader, 1242 memory. So if you want to see how it performs just lookup a eVGA FTW or XFX XXX review as the clocks on those are similar. But of course it's expected that it will overclock higher than those cards can achieve.

[dinos22]

Here is my review: http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?o...2266&Itemid=44

It is complete in Czech language, but pictures and graphs dont need a translation.

[IMG]http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/obermaier/GTX_295_preview/Cards_3_mini.png

[IMG]http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/obermaier/GTX_295_preview/Cards_2_mini.jpg

Test system:

[IMG]http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/obermaier/GTX_295_preview/Test_system_2.jpg


Core i7 965 Extreme @ 3.6GHz
3*2048MB Transcend DDR3 - 24-8-8-8-1T 1333MHz
Asus Rampage II Extreme
1x Radeon, 1x GeForce
Gigabyte Odin 1200W
GeForce 180.88, Catalyst 8.12
Vista Ultimate 32-bit

[IMG]http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/obermaier/GTX_295_preview/vysledky.png

Results in percents ...

more pictures, complete performnce table at review : http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?o...2266&Itemid=44

thats a great (p)review hehe

but we need figures on 3DMARK06 and 3DMARK vantage with stock CPU and then OC cpu

also gfx OCs

[WhiskeyAlpha]

I know average and lowest framerate with lots of AF and AA are where its at. A better comparison would be to look at these cards on a 22-24" monitor. At that point it really doesnt matter as they will both pretty much max out a 1920x1200 res LCD anyway. A very small portion of people are running a 30" monitor.

I agree totally

I think the majority of serious gamers are probably using either 1680x1050 or 1920x1080 so yeah, I agree that should be where the focus is.

Of course, there are those that'll be using the 'ideal' 30", 2560x1600 monitors and it is still nice to see what sort of performance they put in there, despite the fact it is a very niche market.

[villa1n]

there are all fps games except fallout which is semi fps so all gamers are fps gamers

FPS games are called FPS for a reason lol. Frames per Second matter much more in First Person Shooters, than fps in lets say supreme commander, as long as the threshold is met, lets say 30-40 fps in an RTS, anything above is eye candy. In an FPS for example if i m playing at 125fps in C0D4 and your playing at 90... my bullets have a better chance at hitting you first/ reacting etc.

[Nedjo]

LOL lonog time didn't see this much lame graph (NHF OBR):

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Supposedly 648 core, 1476 shader, 1242 memory. So if you want to see how it performs just lookup a eVGA FTW or XFX XXX review as the clocks on those are similar. But of course it's expected that it will overclock higher than those cards can achieve.

I'm waiting for clocks to be confirmed. My core 216 doesn't OC worth a damn compared to many guys here. I'm getting 653/1484/1057 vs stock @ 576/1242/999.


Like others have said, all these numbers at 2560x1600 are pointless for many of us. 1920x1200 and 1680x1050 stats are the most important to many gamers. I guess they aren't being shown since there's no need for this card at those resolutions and ati's card doesn't get destoryed at those res's either.

Lets just cross our fingers that prices on the 55nm line will be cheap and not super inflated like usual.

[safan80]

I'd like to see power comsumption and temps of this card. January 8th is just too late for this card.

[trinibwoy]

Like others have said, all these numbers at 2560x1600 are pointless for many of us. 1920x1200 and 1680x1050 stats are the most important to many gamers. I guess they aren't being shown since there's no need for this card at those resolutions and ati's card doesn't get destoryed at those res's either.

I wouldn't say they aren't needed. There are games out there now that would still tax the 295 at 1680x1050 with 8xQ or 16xS and TRSAA enabled. Just depends on how you like to use the available power.

[Eastcoasthandle]

their charts are broken from what i understand look at numbers below (if thats true gtx295 dips to 2 fps )

When frame rates dip that low it should cause some stutter. But lets reflect on history starting with the 7950:

The 7950 was released on (or about) June 2006.
Next gen GPU (G80) was released on (or about) November 2006
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7950 had roughly a 5 month selling period before next gen gpu entered market


The 9800 GX2 was released on (or about) March 2008.
Next gen GPU (GTX 200 series) was released on (or about) June 2008
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9800 GX2 had roughly 3 month selling period before next gen GPU entered market

The 295 will be released on Jan 2009 (roughly).
Next gen GPU (300 series) will be released on (or about) XXX XX, 2009???
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What will be the selling period before the next gen GPU enters the market?

This is something I ponder on if I were interested in this video card. As with the other incarnations they also performed well yet only had the market to themselves for only a few months.

Side note:
I believe the dates are accurate but if they are not let me know, thanks!

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I wouldn't say they aren't needed. There are games out there now that would still tax the 295 at 1680x1050 with 8xQ or 16xS and TRSAA enabled. Just depends on how you like to use the available power.

And those should have been shown too, just not just insanely high res that will affect very few games.

[moogle]

Side note:
I believe the dates are accurate but if they are not let me know, thanks!

Seems correct to me according to wiki which is what I assumed you based the dates on

[ap4lifetn]

Why does it not have 1 full gig like the X2 again?

It has the bus width of a GTX260, but the shaders of a GTX280, GTX260 = 448bit so 448x2 = 896, 896x2 = 1792

[Eastcoasthandle]

Seems correct to me according to wiki which is what I assumed you based the dates on

Hmm I almost forgot the GT212 GX2 rumored for Q2 2009 release. Therefore:

The 7950 was released on (or about) June 2006.
Next gen GPU (G80) was released on (or about) November 2006
-----------------------------------------------------------------
7950 had roughly a 5 month selling period before next gen gpu entered market


The 9800 GX2 was released on (or about) March 2008.
Next gen GPU (GTX 200 series) was released on (or about) June 2008
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
9800 GX2 had roughly 3 month selling period before next gen GPU entered market


The 295 will be released on Jan 2009 (roughly).
Next gen GPU or the GT212 GX2 will be released on (or about) Q2 2009 (or sometime after)???
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What will be the selling period before the next GX2 or next gen GPU enters the market?

Again, if the GT212 GX2 is true. Honestly when you spend that kind of money it's something to think about.

[moogle]

Again, if this is true. Honestly when you spend that kind of money it's something to think about.

Hey if people wanna get bumped by NVIDIA let them
You can only point on the reoccuring patterns for them to see.

[Warboy]

yea.....I remember when I bought my 7950 GT, then the 8800 series came out then my 8800GTS/8800GTX a few months after that for a slight price drop. Then i lived off that till i got my GTX 280, So I'm guessing I'm waiting till I get a GT300 based card for my next one because a 3 month step-up isn't enough. =/

[v_rr]

LOL lonog time didn't see this much lame graph (NHF OBR):

LOL

[Blacky]

Again, if the GT212 GX2 is true. Honestly when you spend that kind of money it's something to think about.

I'mo most of the people buy the best hardware any manufacturer can offer to date, they don't sit and wait to rumors come true, also even if is true when they wait for that "GT212 GX2" (for example) and when the time comes another rumor or annoucement comes out of another powerful card, its a vicious cycle if you follow it you never buy anything waiting for new stuff...

[Calmatory]

I'mo most of the people buy the best hardware any manufacturer can offer to date, they don't sit and wait to rumors come true, also even if is true when they wait for that "GT212 GX2" (for example) and when the time comes another rumor or annoucement comes out of another powerful card, its a vicious cycle if you follow it you never buy anything waiting for new stuff...

Same people will get 10 % better gameplay for 100 % the price. Can't blame them really but...


...but thats how SLI/CF work!

[knightwolf654]

its strong, but not enough of a performance gap on current models to call for a upgrade.

[Blacky]

Same people will get 10 % better gameplay for 100 % the price. Can't blame them really but...


...but thats how SLI/CF work!

Thats why I think that the people who got the G80 card from start was the best investment of their lives

[moogle]

Thats why I think that the people who got the G80 card from start was the best investment of their lives

That's what I'd like. Another card that will have the same longevity as the G80. I don't see that happening though as ATi have pulled their socks up.

[Eastcoasthandle]

I'mo most of the people buy the best hardware any manufacturer can offer to date, they don't sit and wait to rumors come true, also even if is true when they wait for that "GT212 GX2" (for example) and when the time comes another rumor or annoucement comes out of another powerful card, its a vicious cycle if you follow it you never buy anything waiting for new stuff...

Then those individuals shouldn't be the 1st complaining when next gen/concept does come out. This is why I took note of this trend. In situations like this you really can't have it "both ways". One way...when it suites you. Then another way when it doesn't.

[OBR]

LOL lonog time didn't see this much lame graph (NHF OBR):

If will be vertical axis from ZERO, you didnot to recognise difference, point will be at same place ... because this in some games are vertical axis above zero ... dont read axis but NUMBERS!

dinos: Vantage 3D Perf: with Core i7 3600MHz

X2 - 16 927
280 - 12 276
295 - 18 971
260 - 10 715
4870 - 10084

[dan7777]

If will be vertical axis from ZERO, you didnot to recognise difference, point will be at same place ... because this in some games are vertical axis above zero ... dont read axis but NUMBERS!

dinos: Vantage 3D Perf: with Core i7 3600MHz

X2 - 16 927
280 - 12 276
295 - 18 971
260 - 10 715
4870 - 10084

ive got gtx260-216 overclocked and my vantage score is....14,500 seems like it aint bad