Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

[hicookie]

For me this is normal. With my previous rig, Rampage Extreme/Q9550, during an entire testing week priming had a reboot at 15/16 hours. I tried with Linpack and the systems reboot into the first 5 minutes. I need to climb the Vcore three notch more for true stability. I think that a rig is prime stable only passed 24H, or 10h full mem + 10h small ftt.


One of the most ugly problems in this version is that coming to market many boards with a tiny capacitor blade off in the back of the mosfet circuit. Either it off when you're manipulating the board, which was what happened to me.

happend to your ex58 ?

[freshy]

sorry,bro which part you mean not stable? the CPU oc maximum 24/7 or?
i would like to figure out.

Hicookie the problem i had with f4n for the ud5 was i lost stability for 24/7 OC is that fixed with the f4R bios ?

For me this is normal. With my previous rig, Rampage Extreme/Q9550, during an entire testing week priming had a reboot at 15/16 hours. I tried with Linpack and the systems reboot into the first 5 minutes. I need to climb the Vcore three notch more for true stability. I think that a rig is prime stable only passed 24H, or 10h full mem + 10h small ftt.
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all my prime runs have been small ftt, you would think 14 hours of prime small fft is stable, and my mem hasnt even been running at 1600mhz and i do have it at timings 9,9,9,24 1.64v

[hicookie]

Hicookie the problem i had with f4n for the ud5 was i lost stability for 24/7 OC is that fixed with the f4R bios ?



all my prime runs have been small ftt, you would think 14 hours of prime small fft is stable, and my mem hasnt even been running at 1600mhz and i do have it at timings 9,9,9,24 1.64v

do you mind to send me the BIOS profile? let me check it with F4n.
kechinhua@hotmail.com

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

sorry,bro which part you mean not stable? the CPU oc maximum 24/7 or?
i would like to figure out.

Maybe it isn't your bios that is unstable. I tried F3 and it isn't stable any more as well. So now i am back to f4j bios seems to be the most stable for me so far. I was running prime to test f4m bios at my normal 4ghz settings but it BSOD after 2 minutes. I will do more testing tonight. I will show some bios setting screen shots later.

[vega22]

happend to your ex58 ?

Of course. Too in this thread to Bobbylite. My reseller in Spain confirmed to me yesterday that he had received a batch of x58 Extreme with this problem.

(sorry by my english)

[jcool]

My X58 setup with 12GB ram passed 53h of prime now.. guess that's enough
I won't update bios from F4J though if you guys are having trouble with later versions - also I don't see any bugs with F4J, Raid 0 with SSDs is working, boot menu is working (it wasn't with F3), and the mobo doesn't forget my OC when disconnected from the wall - nice!

[freshy]

do you mind to send me the BIOS profile? let me check it with F4n.
kechinhua@hotmail.com

Voltage:
1.375 vcore set in bios
1.315v QPI/VTT
1.64 Vdimm
All other voltages Auto
19x191
Turbo enabled
HT enabled
x36/x18/x8
PCI-E 101
CPU clock drive -800mV
PCI-E clock drive -900mV

i was 13 hours prime stable with f4k flashed to f4n and wasnt stable anymore, wanted more vcore so i flashed back to f4k and at the same settings it wasnt stable so flashed back to f3 then back to f4k , so now im 5 hours into prime @ 1.38somthing volts im going to let it go for at least 15 hours then try lower vcore again, when i stop it i will save a bios profile as i had it the f4n bios and send it to you

edit.... and in there somewhere i tried f4l but that wasnt stable for 24/7 oc either

[vega22]

all my prime runs have been small ftt, you would think 14 hours of prime small fft is stable, and my mem hasnt even been running at 1600mhz and i do have it at timings 9,9,9,24 1.64v

In my case I tried in blend, but anyway priming led to a reboot again and again around 16 hours because Vcore, not the ram..

[vega22]

I think the most adequate current stability standar is: Vcore and Vdimm Linpack passed, NB/MCH/VTT/Qpi OCCT-Prime95 test passed (RAM mode)

My X58 setup with 12GB ram passed 53h of prime now.. guess that's enough

Great! I like to read something like this...

[rge]

I am flashing to new extreme bios, will see if it changes anything on mine.

[Deanzo]

I flashed back to F3, and for raw overclocks seems to do alright.

i7 940 @ 4976.47
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=465180

SPI32M - 7m 40s 266ms - i7 940 @ 4799MHz

[Hornet331]

My X58 setup with 12GB ram passed 53h of prime now.. guess that's enough
I won't update bios from F4J though if you guys are having trouble with later versions - also I don't see any bugs with F4J, Raid 0 with SSDs is working, boot menu is working (it wasn't with F3), and the mobo doesn't forget my OC when disconnected from the wall - nice!

Try Linx (or any other linpack client.).

My rig was 8h prime stable... crashed after 1h linx.

Needed one notch more on vcore and now it also runs 8h+ linx.

[fornowagain]

F4M for GA-EX58-EXTREME
http://rapidshare.com/files/174466209/EX58EX.F4m.html

Thanks for that

[Splave]

happend to your ex58 ?

Mine too, the top middle of the backside is missing a resistor. Was in the bottom of the mobo box when I opened it no problems yet though

[Xello]

So the consensus seems to be to stick with F4j?

That's the bios i flashed when i got the board and i haven't had a single problem in a few weeks of 24/7 torture testing.

Is it fair to say that those of us without problems shouldn't expect any more out of their chips from a future bios?

My chip is 23x187 4.3ghz stable now, with 1.456v. I have to set 1.493v in the bios though, which puts me @ 1.472v while idle and as i said 1.456v under load.

If there is one thing that would make me flash a new bios it would be a fix for this terrible vdroop Any chance of that?

[hiwa]

update new BIOS , F4M for EX58 EXTREME

most problem is VT function, some guys can't run VMWARE when turnon VT
of i7, F4M is fixed this, also this bios improve some other oc and warning page
or multiplier reset when xmp work.

F4M for GA-EX58-EXTREME
http://rapidshare.com/files/174466209/EX58EX.F4m.html

This file is neither allocated to a Premium Account, or a Collector's Account, and can therefore only be downloaded 10 times.
This limit is reached.
no worry
mirror here

http://rapidshare.com/files/174584700/EX58EX.F4m.html


thanks for that hicookie

[ReverendMaynard]

So the consensus seems to be to stick with F4j?

That's the bios i flashed when i got the board and i haven't had a single problem in a few weeks of 24/7 torture testing.

Is it fair to say that those of us without problems shouldn't expect any more out of their chips from a future bios?

My chip is 23x187 4.3ghz stable now, with 1.456v. I have to set 1.493v in the bios though, which puts me @ 1.472v while idle and as i said 1.456v under load.

If there is one thing that would make me flash a new bios it would be a fix for this terrible vdroop Any chance of that?

f4j has been 100% solid for me so far. I'll be able to shed some light on higher clocks with it with the GTZ coming either tomorrow or Monday.

You'd rather have the bios overshoot your voltage to maintain a constant? You're only getting a .016 droop. That is awesome. The vdrop is .021v which is easy to compensate for. Suck it up or hard mod it

[jcool]

Try Linx (or any other linpack client.).

My rig was 8h prime stable... crashed after 1h linx.

Needed one notch more on vcore and now it also runs 8h+ linx.

It already ran like 10 hours IntelBurntest using 11,5GB ram, no problem. However, linpack currently doesn't really work for i7 CPUs, as it only runs 4 threads (CPU cores at 50% all the time). From what I gather this is intentional, since Intel officially released an "i7 compatible" linpack version - guess they are afraid of people burning out the CPUs using their crappy stock coolers

CPU is way below its limit anyway, but I can't go higher on the BCLK without using enormous amounts of QPI/VTT voltage, which I won't 24/7 (this is a customer setup after all..)

Settings/Hardware:

- EX58-Extreme Bios F4J
- i7 920, turbo enabled
- 21x170=3570 Mhz, 1,21V load Vcore
- 6x2GB Compustocx DDR3-1600 CAS9 memory, Mem divider 8x, CAS 8-8-8-20 @ 1,60V Vdimm
- Uncore auto (lol I know)
- QPI x36, QPI/VTT voltage 1,455V
- strap setting "Standard"
- all other voltages on auto

Running Vista Ultimate 64, one GTX 280, 2x 128GB Compustocx SSDs in Raid 0 (does around 260MB/s read on the ICH10R)

[stasio]

Also released BIOS F4l for Extreme (TT Forum)

[Xello]

f4j has been 100% solid for me so far. I'll be able to shed some light on higher clocks with it with the GTZ coming either tomorrow or Monday.

You'd rather have the bios overshoot your voltage to maintain a constant? You're only getting a .016 droop. That is awesome. The vdrop is .021v which is easy to compensate for. Suck it up or hard mod it

I'd rather set 1.45v in bios and have an actual 1.45v while idle and also 1.45v under load I'd love to mod it but i'd end up breaking something..

Right now i set value A, get value B at idle and value C under load.

But if they could do an overshoot instead of an undershoot and i could set 1.41v and get 1.45v idle + load, that would be sweet too. It's not the bios offset that bothers me, it's having a reasonable 1.45v stable setting under 100% load but then 1.47v+ while idle

[GAR]

Anyone try F4R? let us know how it goes.

[ante_ante]

I have flashed to F4R and i can run the exact same settings that i used on F4L atleast. Slighty less volt i think.

[rge]

I am using F4M for extreme, just ran prime 6.5 hrs, first 2 hrs were combined with Linx max memory (that will usually crash my OC if its going to crash, rather than waiting for prime reboot at 8 hr mark)...stability seems same on mine. F4m has pink "warning font" when you get into higher volts. When manually entering mem settings, 8,8,8, instead of scrolling for CAS entry, you can hit 8 enter, which is faster imo for manually entering instead of scrolling. Couple other minor changes. But works fine for me. And does anyone run their ram with different main timings in different 3 channels? Would like to manually enter in 8,8,8, 24 or whatever once, not 3 times.

Also, wish they would start vcore at like .8-.9v. Not supposed to use lower than that anyways...getting tired of scrolling through a mile of useless volts.

I second the vdroop issue. I wish they would make vcore bios = vcore idle = vcore load. Then just tell us the approximate overshoot volts (percentage/formula whatever) over in comments somewhere.... instead of making it bios = max overshoot volts, feed your idle cpu way more vcore than it needs and cut off the juice when you need it at load. If it wasnt for LLC, I would mod every board. LLC is tolerable enough to avoid modding for me anyways, but could be better.

[Lukee]

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Also, wish they would start vcore at like .8-.9v. Not supposed to use lower than that anyways...getting tired of scrolling through a mile of useless volts.

You know you can type in the number instead of scrolling, right? Well, at least it worked with F4j.

[Splave]

"Would like to manually enter in 8,8,8, 24 or whatever once, not 3 times."

QFT