NVIDIA GTX295 Preview/Review

[eric66]

results are different in some games for example gurus crysis review and hardwarecanucks are totally opposite

[iTravis]

So the HD4870X2 is the 2nd fastest video card now. Guess I'll just hold on for awhile since the performance at 2560x1600 isn't quiet what I expected.
And about the whole GTX280/260 hybrid thing, still don't get though, probably due to heat and power consumption that Nvidia can't slap 2 GTX 280 together?

[Spectrobozo]

all previews using the same games

[kemo]

We knew for sure that the GTX295 will beat the 4870X2 in majority of titles and supposed to be more expensive , i don't know why some people don't want to accept it , You need only to read the specs to know that it is faster ...

[OBR]

Here is my review: http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?o...2266&Itemid=44

It is complete in Czech language, but pictures and graphs dont need a translation.





Test system:




Core i7 965 Extreme @ 3.6GHz
3*2048MB Transcend DDR3 - 24-8-8-8-1T 1333MHz
Asus Rampage II Extreme
1x Radeon, 1x GeForce
Gigabyte Odin 1200W
GeForce 180.88, Catalyst 8.12
Vista Ultimate 32-bit



Results in percents ...

more pictures, complete performnce table at review : http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?o...2266&Itemid=44

[eric66]

if you cherry pick games yes it will own for sure

[SKYMTL]

again nvidias favourite top 5 games

Hence the "Preview".

Anyways, you guys should all be aware that the "Average FPS only" take on things doesn't show the poor minimum FPS performance of this card in Crysis WH DX10.

[flopper]

295 pownz ati.

[OBR]

Hence the "Preview".

Anyways, you guys should all be aware that the "Average FPS only" take on things doesn't show the poor minimum FPS performance of this card in Crysis WH DX10.

In my review are minimal FPS, In Crysis has this card poor performance, nvidia says it in email three days ago. I am waiting for new drivers, before Crysis testing ...

[SKYMTL]

results are different in some games for example gurus crysis review and hardwarecanucks are totally opposite

I don't see that. They used basically the same settings and DX10. If you look at our DX10 results, they line up quite well but Guru doesn't show min FPS so I don't know if we line up there.

[SKYMTL]

In my review are minimal FPS, In Crysis has this card poor performance, nvidia says it in email three days ago. I am waiting for new drivers, before Crysis testing ...

I know but that should not stop anyone from posting the results, now should it?

[FlanK3r]

but its only small diferent and 105 degress...not much good as new GPU king

[OBR]

I know but that should not stop anyone from posting the results, now should it?

hehe, i ve used GTA IV ...

[SKYMTL]

hehe, i ve used GTA IV ...

Good stuff.

Out of curiosity, when you tested Crysis Warhead, were you seeing sub-10FPS minimums from time to time the the GTX 295?

[Calmatory]

all previews using the same games

...and from the first preview:

NVIDIA was rather picky about the games we could use to test the GeForce GTX 295 for this preview and one of the approved games was first person shooter, Far Cry 2.

Basically they are sponsored by Nvidia and have to go by what Nvidia allows them to. No wonder the numbers look good - there is a reason why they don't want to show certain games.

The 3 GHz 65nm Quad & Cat 8.10 in the first preview are sponsored by Nvidia aswell, I guess.

Is this what hardware reviewing has gone to?

Nvidia_respect--;

We knew for sure that the GTX295 will beat the 4870X2 in majority of titles and supposed to be more expensive , i don't know why some people don't want to accept it , You need only to read the specs to know that it is faster ...

I don't care who has the fastest hardware out. I am more concerned about the previews and bias in them. How are we supposed to get real information when Nvidia itself is telling "You can only use this and this game because the rest do not look so good for us!"? Why should we believe what Nvidia tells us? I understand that Nvidia itself is not really telling us anything, but more like showing us what they want us to see. Showing us only the good stuff. I completely understand that it is PR, but it really takes quite a bit reliability away from the sites which do not make it clear that the games are picked by Nvidia. Same goes for AMD/ATI aswell, but I haven't really seen this kind of acts from AMD/ATI, as I've seen from Nvidia.

[mascaras]

Geforce GTX295 Previews








GTX295 Bit-Tech preview

GTX295 HardwareCanucks Preview

GTX295 Guru3D Preview

GTX295 [H] Preview

GTX295 PCtuning Preview

GTX295 HardwareZone preview

[Warboy]

Wow, The GTX295 owns in Deadspace.

Can any of you guys test it with a Modded 181.00 drivers?

[SKYMTL]

Is this what hardware reviewing has gone to?

People these days don't seem to understand the difference between a preview and an actual review. If this was a review where the final conclusion was based off of the performance of 5 Nvidia-picked games, you would definately have something to complain about. However, not one of the previews I have read comes to any firm conclusions; just impressions based on the limited testing they were able to conduct.

[eric66]

I don't see that. They used basically the same settings and DX10. If you look at our DX10 results, they line up quite well but Guru doesn't show min FPS so I don't know if we line up there.

yeah you are right min fps tells the whole story great job even with cherry picked games your site is my favourite along with Hard and anand

[jam2k]

Wow, The GTX295 owns in Deadspace.

Can any of you guys test it with a Modded 181.00 drivers?

No, DeadSpace doesn't have a Crossfire profile, that's why isn't scaling well.

[shoopdawoopa]

I'll be getting 2 of these for my blood rage! Just hope a good waterblock comes out

[Warboy]

No, DeadSpace doesn't have a Crossfire profile, that's why isn't scaling well.

Can't you just rename the exe to fix that? or something, I've heard about fixes for that.

[jam2k]

Core i7 965 Extreme @ 3.6GHz
3*2048MB Transcend DDR3 - 24-8-8-8-1T 1333MHz
Asus Rampage II Extreme
1x Radeon, 1x GeForce
Gigabyte Odin 1200W
GeForce 180.88, Catalyst 8.12
Vista Ultimate 32-bit

Results in percents ...

more pictures, complete performnce table at review : http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?o...2266&Itemid=44

Dead Space doesn't have a CF profile, so GTX295 is 12% faster overall 1900x1200 16+8 than 4870x2

Doesn't look good for a card that arrived 6 months later

[SKYMTL]

No, DeadSpace doesn't have a Crossfire profile, that's why isn't scaling well.

Actually, when you look at the difference between a single HD 4870 1GB and the X2, it is evident that there is a CF profile in place. The issue is that the game itself doesn't run at particularly high framerates on ATI hardware.

[eric66]

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA== Hard review