AMD Shanghai/Deneb Review Thread

[LowRun]

WE need absolutly to 3D Mark Vantage default with Phenom
And 3D Mark 2006 default


Only screen
SoF and IOCEDMYSELF, can you do it this screen please ?

Again, what we absolutely need is you stopping using big fonts, bold fonts and fancy colors and to google NDA

[knopflerbruce]

OCW test it's a fake !

If you're right I'm sure you have some kind of proof. Otherwise, that's BS,

[Oliverda]

OCW test it's a fake !

You should look for an italian forum instead of XS. Your style is getting so very very boring...

[Caveman787]

knop....are you kidding me? none of the numbers in that review seem to add up heck it's been said throughout these threads that some are even slower then phenom I.

[roofsniper]

OCW test it's a fake !

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...82#post3506182
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...14#post3506114
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...73#post3504773
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...87#post3504487
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...85#post3504485
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...27#post3504127
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...96#post3501596
this is just things you have said in the past 2 days. i notice a lot of accusations without any proof. seriously stop posting here. you have no clue what you are talking about and just want to troll.
edit: i just want to add to this that nehalem is fake and intel doesn't exist. but i will not tell you why even tho i am right.

[Aquineas]

FAKE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the sample Deneb C0 was +10% to Agena in Crysis and +8% in Quake wars in clock to clock, with bios and RAM lower.
The ultimate platform must be highter and is not possible that it's better to2-3%, IT's FAKE !


QX9770 vs Deneb 940 better ?
FAKE is not possible.

Yanno, I normally have patience for people who are trying to learn or speak another language. I remember the awakening I got when getting off an airplane in Prague and seeing words in Cyrillic and thinking, "We're not in Kansas anymore." But your post didn't make a bit of sense to me, and your propensity towards "shouting" those non-sensical posts is somewhat irritating.

[gallag]

OCW test it's a fake !

Dude, Give it a break

[Jerry Rob]

Yanno, I normally have patience for people who are trying to learn or speak another language. I remember the awakening I got when getting off an airplane in Prague and seeing words in Cyrillic and thinking, "We're not in Kansas anymore." But your post didn't make a bit of sense to me, and your propensity towards "shouting" those non-sensical posts is somewhat irritating.

Dude, I doubt that you saw Cyrillic in Prague, but I totally agree with the rest of Your post

@lo squartatore, stop spamming, you've spammed every Deneb thread here!

[Dami3n]

He is not a troll, is a FAKEBUSTER

[ajaidev]

lol, over at Anadtech i was getting the heat you know why because i dared compare an Phenom II 940 @ 3Ghz to an i7 940 @ 2.93Ghz..

I said OWC did a clock to clock comparison of they two and "deneb" seems quite good for its cost and how good it is in games as compared to i7 of the same clock. After this all people except a few started praising the i7 and bad mouthing Phenom II quite funny arguments....

See it ur selfs!!

http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y

[knopflerbruce]

knop....are you kidding me? none of the numbers in that review seem to add up heck it's been said throughout these threads that some are even slower then phenom I.

I know the numbers are a "bit" weird. DOn't get me wrong...

This Italian dude usually just says his opinion without making too many arguments. I was just a little bit angry because of that I wanted to see his arguments.

[roofsniper]

This Italian dude usually just says his opinion without making too many arguments. I was just a little bit angry because of that I wanted to see his arguments.

+1 thats all i have been saying. sure say phenom II is a fake and it sucks. but don't say its a fake without having a point at all.

[demonkevy666]

lol, over at Anadtech i was getting the heat you know why because i dared compare an Phenom II 940 @ 3Ghz to an i7 940 @ 2.93Ghz..

I said OWC did a clock to clock comparison of they two and "deneb" seems quite good for its cost and how good it is in games as compared to i7 of the same clock. After this all people except a few started praising the i7 and bad mouthing Phenom II quite funny arguments....

See it ur selfs!!

http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y

sounds like a bunch of trolls and fanboys glad I don't take anandtech to seriously in reviews lol

[roofsniper]

lol, over at Anadtech i was getting the heat you know why because i dared compare an Phenom II 940 @ 3Ghz to an i7 940 @ 2.93Ghz..

I said OWC did a clock to clock comparison of they two and "deneb" seems quite good for its cost and how good it is in games as compared to i7 of the same clock. After this all people except a few started praising the i7 and bad mouthing Phenom II quite funny arguments....

See it ur selfs!!

http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y

yea doesn't really matter since how it is an intel based site. the people that are going to be posting there are going to be supporting intel.

sounds like a bunch of trolls and fanboys glad I don't take anandtech to seriously in reviews lol

yea i never read or trust their reviews.

[ajaidev]

I joind anandtech because i was like hey anand indian name hell i am india i should join in.. Ya i know my brain was small at that time.

Anyhow, i don't regret going from a Athlon X2 to a q6600 and like Intel and AMD almost alike hate Intel a bit for trying monopolizing the market. I compare processors and what ever is value for money i normally get that. Be a fanboy but at least advice should be genuine, but i guess fanboys will be fanboys

[roofsniper]

I joind anandtech because i was like hey anand indian name hell i am india i should join in.. Ya i know my brain was small at that time.

Anyhow, i don't regret going from a Athlon X2 to a q6600 and like Intel and AMD almost alike hate Intel a bit for trying monopolizing the market. I compare processors and what ever is value for money i normally get that. Be a fanboy but at least advice should be genuine, but i guess fanboys will be fanboys

i wouldn't regret upgrading from a x2 to a q6600 either. thats what you still got right?

[ajaidev]

The reviewer used this as the i7 bases :-

http://my.ocworkbench.com/2008...yte/GA-EX58-UD5/b2.htm

Yes still got a q6600 @ 3ghz

[Astennu]

I joind anandtech because i was like hey anand indian name hell i am india i should join in.. Ya i know my brain was small at that time.

Anyhow, i don't regret going from a Athlon X2 to a q6600 and like Intel and AMD almost alike hate Intel a bit for trying monopolizing the market. I compare processors and what ever is value for money i normally get that. Be a fanboy but at least advice should be genuine, but i guess fanboys will be fanboys

Amen

I also made a switch like that. From a 5600+ to a Q6600 and now i upgraded it to a Q9450 @ 3.5 GHz.

But i would ratter have a AMD again. (my second system is a Phenom X3 now) I would be sad for all of us if AMD cant compete anymore. the only way to get faster products on the market is good competition.

[imsochobo]

soo right, we need compotition, and the price of the intel products have to come down, qx9770 cost like 1500 usd here, 1000 £ for the few uk people.
but this is norway.


I'm just waiting and waiting for the deneb running 3.45 ghz on my agena atm 24/7 orthos stable

wonder what a deneb would do

Running lanparty jr 790gx atm, have a 790fxb aswell =)
http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?ac...post&id=270423
img for all its worth

mind checking timings, how low can you run timings at 1066 mhz? on my phenom i cannot run lower than 5-5-4-15 :S my memory is stock 1150 mhz 5-4-4-12 and ive tested it 1100 4-4-4-12
or is this breaking nda ? iocdmyself mind testing ?

[Ghostbuster]

The reviewer used this as the i7 bases :-

http://my.ocworkbench.com/2008...yte/GA-EX58-UD5/b2.htm

You got your link incorrectly copied over. Anyway, from what I saw, I think one of those weird scores is because of the drivers used. The i7 and QX9770 used an earlier driver which may have affected the GPU score (and also Futuremark "optimizations"). However I'd still say the score is too low for most of the benches, even with the latest drivers. Waiting for more reliable numbers to appear soon (already made some prediction).

[CntdwnToExtn]

quick question

i've read the NDA ends on Dec 20, saturday?
does that mean dec 20th 12:00am china time? which would mean 19th @ noon here since it's a 12 hour difference?

[ajaidev]

You got your link incorrectly copied over. Anyway, from what I saw, I think one of those weird scores is because of the drivers used. The i7 and QX9770 used an earlier driver which may have affected the GPU score (and also Futuremark "optimizations"). However I'd still say the score is too low for most of the benches, even with the latest drivers. Waiting for more reliable numbers to appear soon (already made some prediction).

Sorry this is the correct link:-

http://my.ocworkbench.com/2008/gigab...X58-UD5/b2.htm

[ajaidev]

quick question

i've read the NDA ends on Dec 20, saturday?
does that mean dec 20th 12:00am china time? which would mean 19th @ noon here since it's a 12 hour difference?

mAybe 12.00am Canada time...!!

[LowRun]

Where does that Dec 20th NDA off came from? The most reliable site here told us to come back Jan 8th for their review.

[roofsniper]

Where does that Dec 20th NDA off came from? The most reliable site here told us to come back Jan 8th for their review.

idk but everyone is saying it so im just guessing that it is true.